Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
A fantastic single line horseshit response by you, simply because you couldn't refute the facts. Man. I've got to learn to, instead of dissecting someone's point, or refuting it, simply say "isn't germain to the topic at hand", or "bad analogy" when things are clearly going against me.

The fanatical Muslims are INDEED a cancer. They are clearly quite similar to the rest of the Muslims. They're hard to detect. They're harder to go in and pick out one at a time even than cancer. And sadly, in order to keep that shit from spreading, it's starting to look like the chemo and the radiation and the lumpectomy aren't going to be enough, we're going to have to go Mastectomy on their asses.

And you want to know what self-satisfaction is? It's when you make a point that ass-cranks someone and instead of intelligently refuting it they whip out "that doesn't count". Think I'll go to work now. I wish this weren't so easy.

By the way, KungJew and Erkut shot arrows to the bullseye with those last two comments. I've seen pictures of Ronald Reagan burned but I didn't go shit on the steps of the Saudi Embassy or protest at a mosque. Now, if something else gets BLOWN UP over here maybe my next reaction will be a little different. Getting hostile over a poster or a cartoon though? That's just plain learning disabled.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Dersmikner wrote:

A fantastic single line horseshit response by you, simply because you couldn't refute the facts. Man. I've got to learn to, instead of dissecting someone's point, or refuting it, simply say "isn't germain to the topic at hand", or "bad analogy" when things are clearly going against me.

The fanatical Muslims are INDEED a cancer. They are clearly quite similar to the rest of the Muslims. They're hard to detect. They're harder to go in and pick out one at a time even than cancer. And sadly, in order to keep that shit from spreading, it's starting to look like the chemo and the radiation and the lumpectomy aren't going to be enough, we're going to have to go Mastectomy on their asses.

And you want to know what self-satisfaction is? It's when you make a point that ass-cranks someone and instead of intelligently refuting it they whip out "that doesn't count". Think I'll go to work now. I wish this weren't so easy.

By the way, KungJew and Erkut shot arrows to the bullseye with those last two comments. I've seen pictures of Ronald Reagan burned but I didn't go shit on the steps of the Saudi Embassy or protest at a mosque. Now, if something else gets BLOWN UP over here maybe my next reaction will be a little different. Getting hostile over a poster or a cartoon though? That's just plain learning disabled.
Why intelligently refute your moronic posts? I'm not going to change your mind, so I might as well just piss you off, and it looks like I've succeeded. Try again later.
Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6716|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Haa haa, I'm an atheist and I point my finger at you and laugh at your silly Cults I'm not getting blood pressure for some toons anywhere anyhow. Someone wanted links on Jebus so go check out the greatest t-shirt company of all times at www.tshirthell.com They don't care who/what/how you are, they will piss you off or make you laugh. The shirts make me laugh cause I don't have a spear up my ass
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Haa haa, I'm an atheist and I point my finger at you and laugh at your silly Cults I'm not getting blood pressure for some toons anywhere anyhow. Someone wanted links on Jebus so go check out the greatest t-shirt company of all times at www.tshirthell.com They don't care who/what/how you are, they will piss you off or make you laugh. The shirts make me laugh cause I don't have a spear up my ass
Do they have Hot Topic in Finland too? Those are the people who buy all that T-Shirt hell crap.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
Ikarti, delicious. You are one an alleged roll.

Now stomp your feet nine times and scream "no it's not, no it's not, no it's not." Crying a little and namecalling would also be good.

You remind me of the kid in the 1986 Harvard National Debate who was going against us and said "well, I don't have any evidence but it's obvious it won't work."

Last edited by Dersmikner (2006-08-15 08:35:54)

Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Dersmikner wrote:

Delicious. You are one an alleged roll.

Now stomp your feet nine times and scream "no it's not, no it's not, no it's not." Crying a little and namecalling would also be good.

You remind me of the kid in the 1986 Harvard National Debate who was going against us and said "well, I don't have any evidence but it's obvious it won't work."
And this is relevant to you not being able to make an intelligent point how?

I got an idea. Since something has to be done about this "Muslim Cancer" and you're advocating genocide here on the internet, why don't you stop whining and do something about it? You keep saying we have to do something? Who is we? It's certainly not you. So tough guy, are you going to go out and kill off some Muslims or not? If not, I'm curious as to why? Not big enough of a threat? You're a coward? Seems to me you'll just have to bow down to the Caliphate.

Haha, advocating genocide on an internet forum. How melodramatic.
herrr_smity
Member
+156|6870|space command ur anus

Miller wrote:

OK Liberals, I'm waiting for you to bitch about this one like you did with the swedish cartoons.
well they weren't swedish
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
Ikarti, advocating genocide like the Koran? No.

Were I omniscient and omnipotent I'd do two things: (1) remove the Koran and any memory or discussion of it from this planet. It preaches killing infidels, and defines pretty much everyone as an infidel, and (2) wipe out anyone whose idea is that that the infidels need to go.

Do you believe that we can distinguish the bad Muslims from the good Muslims? I don't. The children in Mohammed Attah's neighborhood called him "Mr. Mo" and said he was the best dad on the block. Drove them to bowling, let them stay up late, just a great all around guy. Then he flew a plane into a building full of innocent people. Unfortunately there's on way to go to Arabia and sit down with a bunch of Muslims and know who wants to wipe out the infidels and who is just trying to go along to get along.

Do you believe that even if we could distinguish the good from the bad that we could convince the good to let us wipe out the bad? I don't. it's still "Muslim v. everyone else" and even if they aren't for the terrorists, they damned sure don't want us killing Muslims, whether they're "bad" Muslims or not.

Do you believe that we can leave the Muslims alone and still survive? I don't. I don't think the radical Islamists will cease their attacks even if we move Israel to Greenland, pull every white person out of the Middle East, and hide over here like pansies. They'll STILL blow up planes, throw Jews off cruise ships, and behead whitey whenever possible.

So, I'm sad to report that all those fuckers need to be gone, and it's people like you, who are the passivists and the next door neighbors to the radical, who don't act, who sadly have to be erased as well.

I've got an idea for you, clean up your religion and your race and you won't get smoked. As it stands we're bigger, we're stronger, we're faster and we have more guns and more money and if the Muslims don't get the radicals in line it's going to end up bad for them. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that the minute the U.S. gets attacked again that we aren't going to declare Marshall Law in the Middle East, and enforce it at gunpoint.

I'm sorry y'all can't get your shit together, but the diplomatic route doesn't seem to be working and as long as the kooks are hidden among your populace, the whole thing has to go.

I really don't give a shit. There, I said it. Quote it if you want. If the choice is to spare the innocent Muslims who allegedly don't want to kill all the Jews and Christians (in direct contradistinction to their Koran), and continue to deal with the killing of American citizens, or just wipe them all out, sorry. I'd rather the entire religion and everyone associated with it become a dirty chapter in our history than watch another plane fly into a building full of oblivious civilians.

I'm absolutely serious that were I in front of the "kill them all" button I'd give the Muslim world exactly one year to completely eradicate extremists, and if one more suicide bomb went off in the middle of a baby Gap in TelAviv after Day 365 i'd kill every one of them to make sure it didn't happen again.

Is it right for 100,000,000 innocent Muslims to die to save 1,000 innocent Christians/Jews? Who cares? I'm one of the thousand and the hundred million can kiss my ass if they can't play nice.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Dersmikner wrote:

Ikarti, advocating genocide like the Koran? No.

Were I omniscient and omnipotent I'd do two things: (1) remove the Koran and any memory or discussion of it from this planet. It preaches killing infidels, and defines pretty much everyone as an infidel, and (2) wipe out anyone whose idea is that that the infidels need to go.

Do you believe that we can distinguish the bad Muslims from the good Muslims? I don't. The children in Mohammed Attah's neighborhood called him "Mr. Mo" and said he was the best dad on the block. Drove them to bowling, let them stay up late, just a great all around guy. Then he flew a plane into a building full of innocent people. Unfortunately there's on way to go to Arabia and sit down with a bunch of Muslims and know who wants to wipe out the infidels and who is just trying to go along to get along.

Do you believe that even if we could distinguish the good from the bad that we could convince the good to let us wipe out the bad? I don't. it's still "Muslim v. everyone else" and even if they aren't for the terrorists, they damned sure don't want us killing Muslims, whether they're "bad" Muslims or not.

Do you believe that we can leave the Muslims alone and still survive? I don't. I don't think the radical Islamists will cease their attacks even if we move Israel to Greenland, pull every white person out of the Middle East, and hide over here like pansies. They'll STILL blow up planes, throw Jews off cruise ships, and behead whitey whenever possible.

So, I'm sad to report that all those fuckers need to be gone, and it's people like you, who are the passivists and the next door neighbors to the radical, who don't act, who sadly have to be erased as well.

I've got an idea for you, clean up your religion and your race and you won't get smoked. As it stands we're bigger, we're stronger, we're faster and we have more guns and more money and if the Muslims don't get the radicals in line it's going to end up bad for them. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that the minute the U.S. gets attacked again that we aren't going to declare Marshall Law in the Middle East, and enforce it at gunpoint.

I'm sorry y'all can't get your shit together, but the diplomatic route doesn't seem to be working and as long as the kooks are hidden among your populace, the whole thing has to go.

I really don't give a shit. There, I said it. Quote it if you want. If the choice is to spare the innocent Muslims who allegedly don't want to kill all the Jews and Christians (in direct contradistinction to their Koran), and continue to deal with the killing of American citizens, or just wipe them all out, sorry. I'd rather the entire religion and everyone associated with it become a dirty chapter in our history than watch another plane fly into a building full of oblivious civilians.

I'm absolutely serious that were I in front of the "kill them all" button I'd give the Muslim world exactly one year to completely eradicate extremists, and if one more suicide bomb went off in the middle of a baby Gap in TelAviv after Day 365 i'd kill every one of them to make sure it didn't happen again.

Is it right for 100,000,000 innocent Muslims to die to save 1,000 innocent Christians/Jews? Who cares? I'm one of the thousand and the hundred million can kiss my ass if they can't play nice.
Do something about it then. Calling for the deaths of a large group of people isn't appropriate for anyone to do, you or them.

By the way, I'm not Muslim. I'm an atheist. And what's the fixation with white people? Unlike other religions, Islam tends not to discriminate upon race as far as who's a Muslim and not. If you're a white muslim, you're good. Unlike back in the day if you were a black christian in the south, the white christians would still lynch you.

Last edited by Ikarti (2006-08-15 09:21:30)

CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6798

Dersmikner wrote:

Ikarti, advocating genocide like the Koran? No.

Were I omniscient and omnipotent I'd do two things: (1) remove the Koran and any memory or discussion of it from this planet. It preaches killing infidels, and defines pretty much everyone as an infidel, and (2) wipe out anyone whose idea is that that the infidels need to go.

Do you believe that we can distinguish the bad Muslims from the good Muslims? I don't. The children in Mohammed Attah's neighborhood called him "Mr. Mo" and said he was the best dad on the block. Drove them to bowling, let them stay up late, just a great all around guy. Then he flew a plane into a building full of innocent people. Unfortunately there's on way to go to Arabia and sit down with a bunch of Muslims and know who wants to wipe out the infidels and who is just trying to go along to get along.

Do you believe that even if we could distinguish the good from the bad that we could convince the good to let us wipe out the bad? I don't. it's still "Muslim v. everyone else" and even if they aren't for the terrorists, they damned sure don't want us killing Muslims, whether they're "bad" Muslims or not.

Do you believe that we can leave the Muslims alone and still survive? I don't. I don't think the radical Islamists will cease their attacks even if we move Israel to Greenland, pull every white person out of the Middle East, and hide over here like pansies. They'll STILL blow up planes, throw Jews off cruise ships, and behead whitey whenever possible.

So, I'm sad to report that all those fuckers need to be gone, and it's people like you, who are the passivists and the next door neighbors to the radical, who don't act, who sadly have to be erased as well.

I've got an idea for you, clean up your religion and your race and you won't get smoked. As it stands we're bigger, we're stronger, we're faster and we have more guns and more money and if the Muslims don't get the radicals in line it's going to end up bad for them. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that the minute the U.S. gets attacked again that we aren't going to declare Marshall Law in the Middle East, and enforce it at gunpoint.

I'm sorry y'all can't get your shit together, but the diplomatic route doesn't seem to be working and as long as the kooks are hidden among your populace, the whole thing has to go.

I really don't give a shit. There, I said it. Quote it if you want. If the choice is to spare the innocent Muslims who allegedly don't want to kill all the Jews and Christians (in direct contradistinction to their Koran), and continue to deal with the killing of American citizens, or just wipe them all out, sorry. I'd rather the entire religion and everyone associated with it become a dirty chapter in our history than watch another plane fly into a building full of oblivious civilians.

I'm absolutely serious that were I in front of the "kill them all" button I'd give the Muslim world exactly one year to completely eradicate extremists, and if one more suicide bomb went off in the middle of a baby Gap in TelAviv after Day 365 i'd kill every one of them to make sure it didn't happen again.

Is it right for 100,000,000 innocent Muslims to die to save 1,000 innocent Christians/Jews? Who cares? I'm one of the thousand and the hundred million can kiss my ass if they can't play nice.
There are so many things wrong with this post it's not true. I despair. I appear to still be in possession of my head after having travelled to the middle east a couple of times (Palestine too). You seem to be the problem. You're a sponge for anti-muslim rhetoric spewed by the media.

"Do you believe that we can distinguish the bad Muslims from the good Muslims? I don't."
"Do you believe that we can leave the Muslims alone and still survive?"

You appear to be labouring under the delusion that we're currently in the throes of some 'War of the Worlds' type scenario. It's quite sad really. Sum total of 'terrorist' attacks on COUNTRIES WHO SUPPORT ISRAEL OR THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ: about 7 (2 x WTC (bomb & planes), US embassy in Africa, USS Cole, London Tube Bombing, Madrid Train Bombing, attempted Heathrow operation). That is hardly an all-out battle for existence of the white man!!! LOL. It's like this - stop fucking with the middle east and stop supporting state terrorists and the likelihood is they'll start respecting us for seeing the light. Let's face it - we have treated them like nothing more than shit since the fucking crusades.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-15 11:41:12)

Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

CameronPoe wrote:

That is hardly an all-out battle for existence of the white man!!!
Yeah, if he's worried about the white man so much he can get on my case for having a black girlfriend/soon to be fiancee. Muslims have nothing to do with that.
Jusster
Pimpin aint Easy
+11|6720|H-Town

Dersmikner wrote:

Ikarti, advocating genocide like the Koran? No.

Were I omniscient and omnipotent I'd do two things: (1) remove the Koran and any memory or discussion of it from this planet. It preaches killing infidels, and defines pretty much everyone as an infidel, and (2) wipe out anyone whose idea is that that the infidels need to go.

Do you believe that we can distinguish the bad Muslims from the good Muslims? I don't. The children in Mohammed Attah's neighborhood called him "Mr. Mo" and said he was the best dad on the block. Drove them to bowling, let them stay up late, just a great all around guy. Then he flew a plane into a building full of innocent people. Unfortunately there's on way to go to Arabia and sit down with a bunch of Muslims and know who wants to wipe out the infidels and who is just trying to go along to get along.

Do you believe that even if we could distinguish the good from the bad that we could convince the good to let us wipe out the bad? I don't. it's still "Muslim v. everyone else" and even if they aren't for the terrorists, they damned sure don't want us killing Muslims, whether they're "bad" Muslims or not.

Do you believe that we can leave the Muslims alone and still survive? I don't. I don't think the radical Islamists will cease their attacks even if we move Israel to Greenland, pull every white person out of the Middle East, and hide over here like pansies. They'll STILL blow up planes, throw Jews off cruise ships, and behead whitey whenever possible.

So, I'm sad to report that all those fuckers need to be gone, and it's people like you, who are the passivists and the next door neighbors to the radical, who don't act, who sadly have to be erased as well.

I've got an idea for you, clean up your religion and your race and you won't get smoked. As it stands we're bigger, we're stronger, we're faster and we have more guns and more money and if the Muslims don't get the radicals in line it's going to end up bad for them. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that the minute the U.S. gets attacked again that we aren't going to declare Marshall Law in the Middle East, and enforce it at gunpoint.

I'm sorry y'all can't get your shit together, but the diplomatic route doesn't seem to be working and as long as the kooks are hidden among your populace, the whole thing has to go.

I really don't give a shit. There, I said it. Quote it if you want. If the choice is to spare the innocent Muslims who allegedly don't want to kill all the Jews and Christians (in direct contradistinction to their Koran), and continue to deal with the killing of American citizens, or just wipe them all out, sorry. I'd rather the entire religion and everyone associated with it become a dirty chapter in our history than watch another plane fly into a building full of oblivious civilians.

I'm absolutely serious that were I in front of the "kill them all" button I'd give the Muslim world exactly one year to completely eradicate extremists, and if one more suicide bomb went off in the middle of a baby Gap in TelAviv after Day 365 i'd kill every one of them to make sure it didn't happen again.

Is it right for 100,000,000 innocent Muslims to die to save 1,000 innocent Christians/Jews? Who cares? I'm one of the thousand and the hundred million can kiss my ass if they can't play nice.
Please don't tell me you consider yourself a Christian do you?  What a joke.............you seem like a radical to me as well...........tell you what...........why not get rid you YOU and THEM.........then the rest of us can live in peace


Jusster
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6803

Ikarti wrote:

Dersmikner wrote:

Primacord, 95% of my Mom's right breast was "good people".

The other 5% was a bunch of "violent outliers, not representative of the community as a whole". Probably really it was more like 2%. So, in an effort to save the 95%, it was determined that we should just try to get the 5%, and save those "good folks".

Unfortunately, after trying a "surgical strike" that didn't get every single last "violent cell", the "5% that didn't represent the community as a whole" made a comeback. Pretty soon they were spreading throughout the 95%, impossible to distinguish from the good people from a distance, hidden throughout, and spreading, and becoming an increasing problem for the areas outside "Right Breastville".

The whole Right Breastville community was going to die, and not just that little area, it was going to spread to "Mother Earth".

So the decision was made that unfortunately, in order to save Mother Earth, and the completely neutral areas like "Braintown" and "Leftlegton", all of "Right Breastville" had to be completely wiped off the map, and replaced by a new, non-violent, admittedly culturally quite different, "New Right Breastville".

I'm happy to report that some time later, though I'm sure Mother Earth laments the loss of Right Breastville, New Right Breastville is getting along swimmingly with the rest of the planet, and there are no longer any worries about the violence in that small region fucking it up for everyone.

It's a shame the 95% couldn't control the 5%, but since that's the story, and the surgical strike was clearly (1) risky, and (2) generally ineffective, complete destruction of all Right Breastville cells was what had to happen to save everyone else.
Too bad that it's really not comparable to cancer in the least.
Yes it is. Its a perfect analogy. Right down to the tee.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6765|...

Cartoons beget cartoons
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6925|Canada
"wipe out anyone whose idea is that that the infidels need to go."
in other words wipe them out for wanting to wipe us out.   Great contradiction there.
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6803

CameronPoe wrote:

It's like this - stop fucking with the middle east and stop supporting state terrorists and the likelihood is they'll start respecting us for seeing the light. Let's face it - we have treated them like nothing more than shit since the fucking crusades.
The likelihood is that violence will continue. If not with the west it will be between themselves.

Last edited by rawls2 (2006-08-15 11:24:51)

CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6798

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

It's like this - stop fucking with the middle east and stop supporting state terrorists and the likelihood is they'll start respecting us for seeing the light. Let's face it - we have treated them like nothing more than shit since the fucking crusades.
The likelihood is that violence will continue. If not with the west it will be between themselves.
Between themselves? Then so be it. Why should we give a fuck?
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|6944|Little Rock, Arkansas

Miller wrote:

OK Liberals, I'm waiting for you to bitch about this one like you did with the swedish cartoons.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" ~Evelyn Beatrice Hall

And still, my love of my freedom to say whatever the hell I want to wins out over my disgust of the actions of others.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6905|USA

Miller wrote:

OK Liberals, I'm waiting for you to bitch about this one like you did with the swedish cartoons.
Im liberal....I never bitched about the Muhamad cartoons. Generalization? Yes I think so. GG. TYCOMEAGAIN
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
1. No I'm not a Christian. I believe that there is/was some sort of Supreme Being, and I believe that the gist of the deal is that we're supposed to "love thy neighbor as thyself". The rest is mostly up for interpretation. That's why I give more than generously to charity, volunteer my time with sick children, and never fail to stop and render aid, even if it's just helping someone change a tire. It's what I do.

2. When I say "whitey" it should be clear that I'm talking about Euro-American Jewish/Christian capitalists, be they white, black, or tan. Surely you folks have the reading comprehension to get that.

3. I NEVER listen to the media. I don't watch Fox news, listen to Rush Limbaugh, or catch the nightly 6 p.m. local. I listen to NPR on my way to work, and the BBC via Sirius at night when I'm in bed.

4. Juster, I'm with you. I think, as ironic and contradictory as it sounds, that all extremists should be wiped out. Those guys who shoot abortion doctors? Hell I'm against aborting a viable fetus but I'd sooner cap that nut job than the doctor. I don't like extremists in Israel, America, or the Middle East any more or less than any of the rest of them. The problem is that if YOU aren't willing to fight, and they are, you lose by default.

CameronPoe, I'm with you actually. My hope would be for all this shit to come to a grinding halt. I'd LOVE for the Muslims to have the whole Middle East and get to lash their backs, keep their women from voting, and generally do whatever the hell they want. I don't even care if the Mullahs keep people from dissenting. Ido'nt care if they have no freedome of speech. I don't care if their governments lock them in dark cells for breaking Sharia law. I don't care if they live in paradise or tyranny. Just don't.

I want them to stop fucking with Israel, I want Israel to stop fucking with them, and I want them all to stay the hell over there and leave us alone.

My problem is that I honestly think that even if we do all that, and back off and stay the hell away from them they'll be building mosques over here, trying to institute their bullshit laws and their culture here, and trying to convert the world to Islam, peacefully or otherwise. They're like the fucking 2006 version of the 16th century Catholic church with a different figurehead. It's fine for them to spread their crap here, but God forbid we go over there and try the same.

I don't need to be saved by any of them.

Enjoy your shit and keep it to yourself. I wish it were that simple. It just doesn't seem to be. And I don't believe in the doctrine of similar response. One dead in my neighborhood and I'd blow a city over there. Sorry. I guess that makes me Satan.
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6902|BC, Canada
i think its in incredibly bad taste but im not going to kill anyone about it.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Dersmikner wrote:

1. No I'm not a Christian. I believe that there is/was some sort of Supreme Being, and I believe that the gist of the deal is that we're supposed to "love thy neighbor as thyself". The rest is mostly up for interpretation. That's why I give more than generously to charity, volunteer my time with sick children, and never fail to stop and render aid, even if it's just helping someone change a tire. It's what I do.

2. When I say "whitey" it should be clear that I'm talking about Euro-American Jewish/Christian capitalists, be they white, black, or tan. Surely you folks have the reading comprehension to get that.

3. I NEVER listen to the media. I don't watch Fox news, listen to Rush Limbaugh, or catch the nightly 6 p.m. local. I listen to NPR on my way to work, and the BBC via Sirius at night when I'm in bed.

4. Juster, I'm with you. I think, as ironic and contradictory as it sounds, that all extremists should be wiped out. Those guys who shoot abortion doctors? Hell I'm against aborting a viable fetus but I'd sooner cap that nut job than the doctor. I don't like extremists in Israel, America, or the Middle East any more or less than any of the rest of them. The problem is that if YOU aren't willing to fight, and they are, you lose by default.

CameronPoe, I'm with you actually. My hope would be for all this shit to come to a grinding halt. I'd LOVE for the Muslims to have the whole Middle East and get to lash their backs, keep their women from voting, and generally do whatever the hell they want. I don't even care if the Mullahs keep people from dissenting. Ido'nt care if they have no freedome of speech. I don't care if their governments lock them in dark cells for breaking Sharia law. I don't care if they live in paradise or tyranny. Just don't.

I want them to stop fucking with Israel, I want Israel to stop fucking with them, and I want them all to stay the hell over there and leave us alone.

My problem is that I honestly think that even if we do all that, and back off and stay the hell away from them they'll be building mosques over here, trying to institute their bullshit laws and their culture here, and trying to convert the world to Islam, peacefully or otherwise. They're like the fucking 2006 version of the 16th century Catholic church with a different figurehead. It's fine for them to spread their crap here, but God forbid we go over there and try the same.

I don't need to be saved by any of them.

Enjoy your shit and keep it to yourself. I wish it were that simple. It just doesn't seem to be. And I don't believe in the doctrine of similar response. One dead in my neighborhood and I'd blow a city over there. Sorry. I guess that makes me Satan.
While I don't agree with a lot of what you said, I can respect this opinion. The one question I have is about the loyality towards Israel. Why? I think that's one of the biggest issues. And along the lines of what you're saying, if you can live in peace and not be bothered by Muslims or whoever if Israel didn't exist or wasn't supported by the US, then why not fuck Israel as well?
Ultrafunkula
Hector: Ding, ding, ding, ding...
+1,975|6716|6 6 4 oh, I forget

Ikarti wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Haa haa, I'm an atheist and I point my finger at you and laugh at your silly Cults I'm not getting blood pressure for some toons anywhere anyhow. Someone wanted links on Jebus so go check out the greatest t-shirt company of all times at www.tshirthell.com They don't care who/what/how you are, they will piss you off or make you laugh. The shirts make me laugh cause I don't have a spear up my ass
Do they have Hot Topic in Finland too? Those are the people who buy all that T-Shirt hell crap.
Hmm... The hottest topic in Finland in the papers at the time seems to be a top swimmer getting a divorce (basically as interesting as Paris Hiltons interviews). Who are the people that buy t-shirt hell crap? You mean Finns or people with a fucked up taste of humor as most of normal humans that don't take things too seriously.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Ultrafunkula wrote:

Haa haa, I'm an atheist and I point my finger at you and laugh at your silly Cults I'm not getting blood pressure for some toons anywhere anyhow. Someone wanted links on Jebus so go check out the greatest t-shirt company of all times at www.tshirthell.com They don't care who/what/how you are, they will piss you off or make you laugh. The shirts make me laugh cause I don't have a spear up my ass
Do they have Hot Topic in Finland too? Those are the people who buy all that T-Shirt hell crap.
Hmm... The hottest topic in Finland in the papers at the time seems to be a top swimmer getting a divorce (basically as interesting as Paris Hiltons interviews). Who are the people that buy t-shirt hell crap? You mean Finns or people with a fucked up taste of humor as most of normal humans that don't take things too seriously.
It's an american store that caters to rebellious teens. Shopping at Hot Topic (owned by the Gap) is their way of rebelling against conformity and corporate America. They rebel against conformity by dressing exactly alike and pretending to be apathetic and listening to the same music. By the time they're grown up, if they don't grow out of it that is, there's only going to be 3 or 4 people that care enough to vote here anymore.
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6741|Texas
I'm not loyal to Israel. I honestly think that the Palestinians got a COMPLETE ass-raping by the U.N on that deal.

I try to use this analogy. What if a dictator took over in Mexico and started killing all the descendants of the Maya? Tortured 10 million Mexicans who had some Mayan blood and called it an Aztec cleansing. What if the world stepped in and stopped this whacko and then said "we really need to give these Mayans a place of their own. Let's give them Texas." Shit, I'd be tossing molitave cocktails too.

The Palestinians have a righteous gripe in my opinion. I think it's WAY more than fair to demand that Israel sit down and give these people their own, contiguous nation.

I'd be all for that and as a matter of fact, I think we should tell Israel that if they don't give the Palestinians some land and a fair chance, we're cutting them off.

I think Israel would do that.

Then of course we'd have to tell Palestine and Lebanon and everyone else that if they continued to jack with Israel that we'd level them.

That all seems fair to me.

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