JahManRed
wank
+646|6870|IRELAND

ATG wrote:

Thats right, when Iran's president says he has a peaceful intention for his nuclear program, but his actions ( including trying to smuggle yellow cake out of Africa ) indicate he is preparing for war, we have to act on his actions not his words.   
     And take them out. Before it's too late.
No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
|AIA| DAS
Member
+23|6739|Me Dad's Wilkins

Bubbalo wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

why would you use airstrikes on someone if you didn't have the ability to enforce it with groundpounders?
Oh, that's right, because Israelis are pushing straight for Beirut.  Oh, wait.............

Airstrikes can be used to effectively remove your opponents offensive capabilities, along with production and infrastructure capabilites.
Even with precision airstrikes, there is more danger of civilian casualties.

The only reason Israel is using the Ground Troops, is because of all the media coverage of civilian casualties.  With ground troops, you get less civilian deaths, but more risk of Israeli deaths.  Shows the steps they are willing to take to stop being crucified in the media.
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|6977|California
Damn americans and jews, why do they pick on him? He's only called for the destruction of Isreal, where's the harm in that? A Sea of fire, things of that nature, it's all in fun.
Colfax
PR Only
+70|6886|United States - Illinois

JahManRed wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
hahahahaha....Your are hilarious.  If Iran had nukes.....you saying it would be good just makes me want roflmao!!!!

Are you stupid....seriously.  If Iran had nukes there would be bigger issues then Isreal.  When the UK gets nuked i'm going to come on here and laugh.  And say hey you wanted Iran to have the nukes.  They "accidently" fell into terrorist hands and they hit the UK first.  Or isreal

News headline:

"UK HAS BEEN ANNHILATED"
Fallout destroys most if not all of Europe.  10's of millions dead.

If a nuke went off in isreal.  Isreal would or America would retaliate very quickly with more nukes. And then everyone would be dead in the middle east.  Then we can have all the oil.  is that what your getting at here Jahmanred

Last edited by Colfax (2006-08-11 09:33:20)

|AIA| DAS
Member
+23|6739|Me Dad's Wilkins

JahManRed wrote:

ATG wrote:

Thats right, when Iran's president says he has a peaceful intention for his nuclear program, but his actions ( including trying to smuggle yellow cake out of Africa ) indicate he is preparing for war, we have to act on his actions not his words.   
     And take them out. Before it's too late.
No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
No it's not who you thinks is right.

Here is the difference... Iran's leader has stated on numerous occasions that Israel should be annihilated.  Israel and the Americans have stated that Iran should not be allowed to have Nuclear Weapons.

Just a subtle difference.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804

Erkut.hv wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Yes, it's not like there's huge amounts of ground to cross, massive aerial attacks or armed militia to worry about.
Don't forget land mines.

I didn't say it would be easy.
It's not a matter of "not easy", it's a matter of "even if we leave we could die in ten seconds and we have no control over it".
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6797

Colfax wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
hahahahaha....Your are hilarious.  If Iran had nukes.....you saying it would be good just makes me want roflmao!!!!

Are you stupid....seriously.  If Iran had nukes there would be bigger issues then Isreal.  When the UK gets nuked i'm going to come on here and laugh.  And say hey you wanted Iran to have the nukes.  They "accidently" fell into terrorist hands and they hit the UK first.  Or isreal

News headline:

"UK HAS BEEN ANNHILATED"
Fallout destroys most if not all of Europe.  10's of millions dead.

If a nuke went off in isreal.  Isreal would or America would retaliate very quickly with more nukes. And then everyone would be dead in the middle east.  Then we can have all the oil.  is that what your getting at here Jahmanred
Just to clarify Colfax (not bitching, just informing) - in case you didn't know - the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK, Jahmanred is however from the statelet of Northern Ireland so technically he does live in what is officially the UK.

/infomercial over...

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-11 10:23:57)

Colfax
PR Only
+70|6886|United States - Illinois

CameronPoe wrote:

Just to clarify Colfax (not bitching, just informing) - in case you didn't know - the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK, Jahmanred is however from the statelet of Northern Ireland so technically he does live in what is officially the UK.
I understand thats why i used the UK.  If you think about it if terrorists really wanted to hurt the world it would hit the UK because you'd not only destroy most of the UK but also most of Western Europe from fall out.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6925|Canada

Colfax wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
hahahahaha....Your are hilarious.  If Iran had nukes.....you saying it would be good just makes me want roflmao!!!!

Are you stupid....seriously.  If Iran had nukes there would be bigger issues then Isreal.  When the UK gets nuked i'm going to come on here and laugh.  And say hey you wanted Iran to have the nukes.  They "accidently" fell into terrorist hands and they hit the UK first.  Or isreal

News headline:

"UK HAS BEEN ANNHILATED"
Fallout destroys most if not all of Europe.  10's of millions dead.

If a nuke went off in isreal.  Isreal would or America would retaliate very quickly with more nukes. And then everyone would be dead in the middle east.  Then we can have all the oil.  is that what your getting at here Jahmanred
Have you never heard of nuclear deterrent?   
Why, may I ask you, did North America not have a nuclear war in the 60's with the USSR?
It's true, nuclear weapons are an insurance policy.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6925|Canada

Colfax wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
hahahahaha....Your are hilarious.  If Iran had nukes.....you saying it would be good just makes me want roflmao!!!!

Are you stupid....seriously.  If Iran had nukes there would be bigger issues then Isreal.  When the UK gets nuked i'm going to come on here and laugh.  And say hey you wanted Iran to have the nukes.  They "accidently" fell into terrorist hands and they hit the UK first.  Or isreal

News headline:

"UK HAS BEEN ANNHILATED"
Fallout destroys most if not all of Europe.  10's of millions dead.

If a nuke went off in isreal.  Isreal would or America would retaliate very quickly with more nukes. And then everyone would be dead in the middle east.  Then we can have all the oil.  is that what your getting at here Jahmanred
If a nuke went off in Israel, radioactive dust would cover the ME killing everyone including Iranians.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6925|Canada

|AIA| DAS wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

ATG wrote:

Thats right, when Iran's president says he has a peaceful intention for his nuclear program, but his actions ( including trying to smuggle yellow cake out of Africa ) indicate he is preparing for war, we have to act on his actions not his words.   
     And take them out. Before it's too late.
No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
No it's not who you thinks is right.

Here is the difference... Iran's leader has stated on numerous occasions that Israel should be annihilated.  Israel and the Americans have stated that Iran should not be allowed to have Nuclear Weapons.

Just a subtle difference.
we're twisting word here, again.  He keeps saying he wants to wipe Israel clean of the zionist regime.  He has no as far as I know wished death on all Jewish people internationally.    America and Israel should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons,   The only 2 countries behind violating international laws!!!
M1-Lightning
Jeepers Creepers
+136|6973|Peoria, Illinois

Spumantiii wrote:

Colfax wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
hahahahaha....Your are hilarious.  If Iran had nukes.....you saying it would be good just makes me want roflmao!!!!

Are you stupid....seriously.  If Iran had nukes there would be bigger issues then Isreal.  When the UK gets nuked i'm going to come on here and laugh.  And say hey you wanted Iran to have the nukes.  They "accidently" fell into terrorist hands and they hit the UK first.  Or isreal

News headline:

"UK HAS BEEN ANNHILATED"
Fallout destroys most if not all of Europe.  10's of millions dead.

If a nuke went off in isreal.  Isreal would or America would retaliate very quickly with more nukes. And then everyone would be dead in the middle east.  Then we can have all the oil.  is that what your getting at here Jahmanred
Have you never heard of nuclear deterrent?   
Why, may I ask you, did North America not have a nuclear war in the 60's with the USSR?
It's true, nuclear weapons are an insurance policy.
How do you nuke terrorists when no state officially claims them nor do these terrorists claim citizenship to any single nation? If Iran wanted to Nuke the UK, they would not do it via ICBM because of course they would get nuked back. No, they are not that stupid. They would fund an international terrorist group to do it for them so their hands stay clean.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6771|Global Command

Spumantiii wrote:

The only 2 countries behind violating international laws!!!
You've got to be kidding, right? Please tell me you are being sarcastic.
Jusster
Pimpin aint Easy
+11|6719|H-Town

Colfax wrote:

We can't let Iran and N Korea have nukes because they are less likely to use them wisely. If you think Iran and N. Korea should have nukes just because we do you are ludicrous

Your idea of if they have we should is going to kill millions

I just pray you don't eat your own words when a nuke falls into terrorist hands and annihilates someone

Because im sure they will help that nation rebuild(like we did)....ha....not
You guys seem to do a really heads up job of miss quoting people.  When did I ever state that I believe North Korea or Iran should have Nuclear weapons?

What I said is that we have them and alot of other countries see it as hypocritical to state that someone else can't.  After all we are the only country in the world to ever drop a weapon of the sorts on another nation..........go figure

Hey.........I've got an idea, how bout we get rid of them all and find an alternate way to produce cheap power.....but I doubt that will happen in my life time.......because the technology is out there and there's no turning back now



Jusster

Last edited by Jusster (2006-08-11 12:56:43)

Colfax
PR Only
+70|6886|United States - Illinois

Jusster wrote:

You guys seem to do a really heads up job of miss quoting people.  When did I ever state that I believe North Korea or Iran should have Nuclear weapons?

Jusster wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
There
Jusster
Pimpin aint Easy
+11|6719|H-Town

Colfax wrote:

Jusster wrote:

You guys seem to do a really heads up job of miss quoting people.  When did I ever state that I believe North Korea or Iran should have Nuclear weapons?

Jusster wrote:

No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
There
You must be drunk or smokin some good shit.  Why don't you scroll up and look threw MY post one more time.

Is this what you pull when you can't argue your point?


LMAO

Jusster

Last edited by Jusster (2006-08-11 13:49:01)

Marinejuana
local
+415|6827|Seattle
I just heard that Hezbollah poached another 7 hump-backed whales in the Pacific.  The ecological impact is thought to be second only to the Exxon valdez oil spill that only recently has been linked to al-qaida. The department of defense found documents near the site of the wreckage that prove Osama Bin Laden framed Exxon so that drilling contracts in Alaska would be given to the Taliban insurgents that currently control our government.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6925|Canada
lmao
"we have reason to believe it was al - q"

The only 2 countries behind breaking international laws  ( ie supporting inaction/unjust action through vetoes and abstination)   All countries break laws but these 2 countries have done more to hinder the international peace processes than any other (not the only 2 countries breaking laws)



Korea breaks laws but plays no role in the UN

Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-08-11 15:42:27)

Sabertooth71
Member
+1|6798
Here - I'll link you to israeli footage on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q … rch=Search

These are taken from drones, then broadcast on israeli TV
Sabertooth71
Member
+1|6798
Oh, and I'll pull more sources for you soon, this is just the first that I could think of and I need some sleep
Dersmikner
Member
+147|6740|Texas
If it's true the Jews should just asscrank Iran and save us the trouble.
|AIA| DAS
Member
+23|6739|Me Dad's Wilkins

Spumantiii wrote:

|AIA| DAS wrote:

JahManRed wrote:


No wonder he is preparing for a war. With the threats being flung at Iran, its his duty as a leader of a sovereign nation to defend his ppl. Iran don't want this war, America does. If Iran has Nukes it would be better for all. America wouldn't touch them and then perhaps Israel wouldn't act so caviler with killing innocents in the region without any threat of reprisal, because they always hold the nuke card. I think it would help stabilize the region.
And as ive said in another thread. Iran may be arming Hezbollah with rockets that can reach the northern cities of Israel. The USA is arming Israel with Nukes that threaten every Arab city and beyond. Its just down to who you thinks right.
No it's not who you thinks is right.

Here is the difference... Iran's leader has stated on numerous occasions that Israel should be annihilated.  Israel and the Americans have stated that Iran should not be allowed to have Nuclear Weapons.

Just a subtle difference.
we're twisting word here, again.  He keeps saying he wants to wipe Israel clean of the zionist regime.  He has no as far as I know wished death on all Jewish people internationally.    America and Israel should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons,   The only 2 countries behind violating international laws!!!
No, Now YOU are twisting the words...

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Israel a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated. He also appeared to again question whether the Holocaust really happened.



"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

Ahmadinejad provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map."

On Friday, he repeated his previous line on the Holocaust, saying: "If such a disaster is true, why should the people of this region pay the price? Why does the Palestinian nation have to be suppressed and have its land occupied?"
Quoted from...http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/04/14/D8GVSUC0H.html

You give him too much credit, He does not distinguish between Zionist and Jews.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804

|AIA| DAS wrote:

"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."
Which fits with the statement, which you're disagreeing with, that he didn't call for Israel's destruction

|AIA| DAS wrote:

On Friday, he repeated his previous line on the Holocaust, saying: "If such a disaster is true, why should the people of this region pay the price? Why does the Palestinian nation have to be suppressed and have its land occupied?"
A very good point.

|AIA| DAS wrote:

You give him too much credit, He does not distinguish between Zionist and Jews.
An example, please.
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6867|Home of the Escalade Herds

|AIA| DAS wrote:

You give him too much credit, He does not distinguish between Zionist and Jews.
Your quotes tell a different story, good job not proving your point.
|AIA| DAS
Member
+23|6739|Me Dad's Wilkins

Bubbalo wrote:

|AIA| DAS wrote:

"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said at the opening of a conference in support of the Palestinians. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."
Which fits with the statement, which you're disagreeing with, that he didn't call for Israel's destruction

|AIA| DAS wrote:

On Friday, he repeated his previous line on the Holocaust, saying: "If such a disaster is true, why should the people of this region pay the price? Why does the Palestinian nation have to be suppressed and have its land occupied?"
A very good point.

|AIA| DAS wrote:

You give him too much credit, He does not distinguish between Zionist and Jews.
An example, please.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis is to destroy Israel. In a speech during an emergency meeting of Muslim leaders, Ahmadinejad also called for an immediate halt to fighting in Lebanon between Israel and the Iranian-backed militant group Hezbollah.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300629.html

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said today the solution to the Middle East crisis was to destroy Israel, state-media reported.
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.a … =y9yxz948x

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