Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel
1881 - Zionism and Immigration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Zio … mmigration

Jews bought land from Ottoman and individual Arab landholders. After Jews established agricultural settlements, tensions erupted between the Jews and Arabs.
1920 - Palestinians anti-British and anti-Zionist activism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- … _aftermath

1928 - Arab riots against Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

1948 - War of Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

...another anti-jews wars, terrats, guerillas attacks, etc etc etc... So as we can see it is Arabs who start the "kids killing!"

ps:any anti-israeli are welcome to disproof my post!
unnamednewbie13
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Of course, the conflict between Jews and other people in that region goes back to before there were Muslims...
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6548

Lisik wrote:

1881 - Zionism and Immigration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Zio … mmigration

Jews bought land from Ottoman and individual Arab landholders. After Jews established agricultural settlements, tensions erupted between the Jews and Arabs.
1920 - Palestinians anti-British and anti-Zionist activism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- … _aftermath

1928 - Arab riots against Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

1948 - War of Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

...another anti-jews wars, terrats, guerillas attacks, etc etc etc... So as we can see it is Arabs who start the "kids killing!"

ps:any anti-israeli are welcome to disproof my post!
What's your point? They had a right to defend themselves from an invasion of their territory. Buying land didn't make immigration any less illegal.
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Of course, the conflict between Jews and other people in that region goes back to before there were Muslims...
explain yourself! jews attack who... when.. and why...
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6657|NT, like Mick Dundee

The jews kicked the canaanites out a loong time ago. Bet you a couple of children were killed then too.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
CameronPoe
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+2,925|6548

Flecco wrote:

The jews kicked the canaanites out a loong time ago. Bet you a couple of children were killed then too.
Beat me to it. I was just looking for a comprehensive link to detailed info to post.

http://www.theology.edu/conquest.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/nt/theology/08josh.html

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-09 01:58:32)

Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6657|NT, like Mick Dundee

Lisik wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Of course, the conflict between Jews and other people in that region goes back to before there were Muslims...
explain yourself! jews attack who... when.. and why...
Attacked the romans. During the roman occupation. Because just like the Arabs, they didn't like being occupied.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

1881 - Zionism and Immigration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Zio … mmigration

Jews bought land from Ottoman and individual Arab landholders. After Jews established agricultural settlements, tensions erupted between the Jews and Arabs.
1920 - Palestinians anti-British and anti-Zionist activism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- … _aftermath

1928 - Arab riots against Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

1948 - War of Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

...another anti-jews wars, terrats, guerillas attacks, etc etc etc... So as we can see it is Arabs who start the "kids killing!"

ps:any anti-israeli are welcome to disproof my post!
What's your point? They had a right to defend themselves from an invasion of their territory. Buying land didn't make immigration any less illegal.
illegal to live on lands that u bought by your own money? are u mad?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6548

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

1881 - Zionism and Immigration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#Zio … mmigration


1920 - Palestinians anti-British and anti-Zionist activism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab- … _aftermath

1928 - Arab riots against Jews
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Hebron_massacre

1948 - War of Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War

...another anti-jews wars, terrats, guerillas attacks, etc etc etc... So as we can see it is Arabs who start the "kids killing!"

ps:any anti-israeli are welcome to disproof my post!
What's your point? They had a right to defend themselves from an invasion of their territory. Buying land didn't make immigration any less illegal.
illegal to live on lands that u bought by your own money? are u mad?
Illegal to create a country on lands that you bought. If I buy some fields in Israel can I create 'CameronPoeLand'?
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


What's your point? They had a right to defend themselves from an invasion of their territory. Buying land didn't make immigration any less illegal.
illegal to live on lands that u bought by your own money? are u mad?
Illegal to create a country on lands that you bought. If I buy some fields in Israel can I create 'CameronPoeLand'?
if u buy it from israeli goverment - yes u can!
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6548

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:


illegal to live on lands that u bought by your own money? are u mad?
Illegal to create a country on lands that you bought. If I buy some fields in Israel can I create 'CameronPoeLand'?
if u buy it from israeli goverment - yes u can!
Did you hear that everyone? Lisik just granted me permission to set up CameronPoeLand in the Upper Galilee. Anyone gonna join me on my Poebutz? Grab some guns, I'll start building the Cameronesset.
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

Flecco wrote:

Lisik wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Of course, the conflict between Jews and other people in that region goes back to before there were Muslims...
explain yourself! jews attack who... when.. and why...
Attacked the romans. During the roman occupation. Because just like the Arabs, they didn't like being occupied.
jews not sell lands to romans, so its not the same!
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Illegal to create a country on lands that you bought. If I buy some fields in Israel can I create 'CameronPoeLand'?
if u buy it from israeli goverment - yes u can!
Did you hear that everyone? Lisik just granted me permission to set up CameronPoeLand in the Upper Galilee. Anyone gonna join me on my Poebutz? Grab some guns, I'll start building the Cameronesset.
lol so only one thing left cameron... to buy the land! how do u think... will israeli goverment sell u something ? i dont think so!
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6548

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

if u buy it from israeli goverment - yes u can!
Did you hear that everyone? Lisik just granted me permission to set up CameronPoeLand in the Upper Galilee. Anyone gonna join me on my Poebutz? Grab some guns, I'll start building the Cameronesset.
lol so only one thing left cameron... to buy the land! how do u think... will israeli goverment sell u something ? i dont think so!
A simple point here Lisik. Jews only bought a tiny fraction of the land of Palestine yet they now occupy 100% of it. I think something is amiss there. And no - buying land does not entitle you to create a country on it. I;m sure the Ottoman empire never envisaged a state of Israel on land that they sold and would never have agreed to sell it if that was the plan.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-09 02:28:50)

PRiMACORD
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About the Hebron "massacre"

"133 Jews were killed and 339 wounded (mostly by Arabs); 116 Arabs were killed and 232 wounded (mostly by British-commanded police and soldiers)."

It appears both sides got massacred almost equally.
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


Did you hear that everyone? Lisik just granted me permission to set up CameronPoeLand in the Upper Galilee. Anyone gonna join me on my Poebutz? Grab some guns, I'll start building the Cameronesset.
lol so only one thing left cameron... to buy the land! how do u think... will israeli goverment sell u something ? i dont think so!
A simple point here Lisik. Jews only bought a tiny fraction of the land of Palestine yet they now occupy 100% of it. I think something is amiss there. And no - buying land does not entitle you to create a country on it. I;m sure the Ottoman empire never envisaged a state of Israel on land that they sold and would never have agreed to sell it if that was the plan.
cameron... the land was bouth in 1881, israel was created on 1948!

1881 - 1948 jews didnt ocupated nothing, but arabs were already agressive!
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

PRiMACORD wrote:

About the Hebron "massacre"

"133 Jews were killed and 339 wounded (mostly by Arabs); 116 Arabs were killed and 232 wounded (mostly by British-commanded police and soldiers)."

It appears both sides got massacred almost equally.
but who start the agression?
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6617|Home of the Escalade Herds

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:


illegal to live on lands that u bought by your own money? are u mad?
Illegal to create a country on lands that you bought. If I buy some fields in Israel can I create 'CameronPoeLand'?
if u buy it from israeli goverment - yes u can!
No you can't. If you buy land you cannot create your own political regime on it, you will have to abide by the laws of Israel.

Duh? Sigh.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6548

PRiMACORD wrote:

Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Illegal to create a country on lands that you bought. If I buy some fields in Israel can I create 'CameronPoeLand'?
if u buy it from israeli goverment - yes u can!
No you can't. If you buy land you cannot create your own political regime on it, you will have to abide by the laws of Israel.

Duh? Sigh.
Exactly Lisik - the creation of Israel would never have been sanctioned by the Ottoman Empire. The immigrants just got lucky with WWI - in the chaos aftwerwards they craftily took advantage of the political vacuum, casting millions of arabs from their homes in 1948. Did they buy the land those arabs lived on? I think not. Robbery I tell ya!

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-09 02:40:28)

Ikarti
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yay more rampant stupidity from lisik!
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel
jewish regime on this lands was sinice 5th centry BCE and state of israel was created in 1948 by UN... so what illegal crateing of israel on 1881 are u talking about?
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6701|Wilmington, DE, US

Lisik wrote:

jewish regime on this lands was sinice 5th centry BCE and state of israel was created in 1948 by UN... so what illegal crateing of israel on 1881 are u talking about?
see I'm a firm believer that if you leave your home for 1000 years or so it's NOT reserved when you feel like you want to go back
Lisik
Member
+74|6493|Israel

Ikarti wrote:

Lisik wrote:

jewish regime on this lands was sinice 5th centry BCE and state of israel was created in 1948 by UN... so what illegal crateing of israel on 1881 are u talking about?
see I'm a firm believer that if you leave your home for 1000 years or so it's NOT reserved when you feel like you want to go back
jews was here all the times!
CameronPoe
Member
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Ikarti wrote:

Lisik wrote:

jewish regime on this lands was sinice 5th centry BCE and state of israel was created in 1948 by UN... so what illegal crateing of israel on 1881 are u talking about?
see I'm a firm believer that if you leave your home for 1000 years or so it's NOT reserved when you feel like you want to go back
Yeah Lisik - why didn't ye stay and fight it out with the Romans. Mass suicide on top of Masada is not conducive to beating an enemy.

Edit: Actually that's a cheap shot. I take it back. But still - we Irish put up with 800 years of oppression but stuck it out and now we're free.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-08-09 03:02:27)

Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6701|Wilmington, DE, US

CameronPoe wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Lisik wrote:

jewish regime on this lands was sinice 5th centry BCE and state of israel was created in 1948 by UN... so what illegal crateing of israel on 1881 are u talking about?
see I'm a firm believer that if you leave your home for 1000 years or so it's NOT reserved when you feel like you want to go back
Yeah Lisik - why didn't ye stay and fight it out with the Romans. Mass suicide on top of Masada is not conducive to beating an enemy.

Edit: Actually that's a cheap shot. I take it back. But still - we Irish put up with 800 years of oppression but stuck it out and now we're free.
That's not a cheap shot at all, as much as he ridicules muslims and anyone else who isn't a fan of Israel

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