Well if they didn't, why did they ask him to help in Japan and risk issues? Roosevelt was a fool.
Poll
Bush administration: awesome or evil?
| Awesome. I'm American. | 12% | 12% - 39 | ||||
| Mostly good. I'm American. | 16% | 16% - 52 | ||||
| Mostly bad. I'm American. | 11% | 11% - 35 | ||||
| Evil. I'm American. | 21% | 21% - 68 | ||||
| Awesome. I'm not American. | 2% | 2% - 9 | ||||
| Mostly good. I'm not American. | 3% | 3% - 10 | ||||
| Mostly bad. I'm not American. | 14% | 14% - 46 | ||||
| Evil. I'm not American. | 18% | 18% - 58 | ||||
| Total: 317 | ||||||
How many times has Florida been seriously flooded?
I said it earlier I believe, the Soviets at that time in history were the lesser of the 3 evils. pretty simpleBubbalo wrote:
Well if they didn't, why did they ask him to help in Japan and risk issues? Roosevelt was a fool.
hlaf of Florida is constantly flooded,it is called the Everglades that is why they didn't build any fuckin' cites there. It is up to the state to communicate with the federal govt. THEY DID NOT.Bubbalo wrote:
How many times has Florida been seriously flooded?
So to clarify, you are going to trash this administration for its current ( SUCCESSFUL ) efforts to keep us free from terrorism, and now you are going to trash this administration for FUTURE events that may or may not materialize?? I am the only one that senses the hopelessness for rational thinking from shipbuilder or the other terrorist lap dogs like him??The_Shipbuilder wrote:
You're right as usual lowing. Why complain about corruption, if there has been corruption before? Better to just keep quiet about it whilst looking out for terrorists.
Also, no one has any right to complain about anything, because everyone in the world is either a republican or a democrat, and both parties have done bad things in the past.
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Therefore, no one can discuss anything, ever.Absolutely right. And by the same logic, I support FEMA 100% because the USA have been 100% free of hurricane deaths for many months.lowing wrote:
Bottom line, I don't care what they do as long as the end result is a terrorism free America, and since Sept 12, 2001 after several attempts, this administration has kept this country terrorism free
yeah, lets not blame the STATE govt. for the Katrina events, or the people in New Orleans themselves for not leaving when ORDERED to. Lets not blame the looters, rapists, murderers, scam artists,, or the leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit. Lets blame FEMA. There should be no PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY attached to any of the events in New Orleans.
Explain this, how does Florida get hit 3 or 4 times a fuckin' YEAR by massive hurricanes and you don't hear bitching or the stories that even come close to the shit the people of NEW ORLEANS and its "CENSORED" Mayor were doing.
and thanks for agreeing with me in your first paragraph, I am glad to see we can agree on stuff.
(I can't refer to Mayor Nagin and his Chocolate city debacle.........I have been warned.)
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But the US already believed it could beat Japan. Why, then, would they ask for assistance? Besides which, calling the USSR a lesser evil than Germany is like calling the French "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys": it may be popular, but it's ignorant.lowing wrote:
I said it earlier I believe, the Soviets at that time in history were the lesser of the 3 evils. pretty simple
Well then maybe you should travel back in time and advise the founders of New Orleans that. Until then, unless you can pay for the relocation of it's residents, your argument is moot.lowing wrote:
hlaf of Florida is constantly flooded,it is called the Everglades that is why they didn't build any fuckin' cites there.
So, the US can think they see WMDs in Iraq and go to war, but not think they hear a plea for help from New Orleans and give humanitarian aid? Seriously, you guys must be, like, the greatest people ever!lowing wrote:
It is up to the state to communicate with the federal govt. THEY DID NOT.
In the event of an invasion of Japan it was estimated over 1,000,000 allied deathes would be incurred. do you really eed to ask why??Bubbalo wrote:
But the US already believed it could beat Japan. Why, then, would they ask for assistance? Besides which, calling the USSR a lesser evil than Germany is like calling the French "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys": it may be popular, but it's ignorant.lowing wrote:
I said it earlier I believe, the Soviets at that time in history were the lesser of the 3 evils. pretty simpleWell then maybe you should travel back in time and advise the founders of New Orleans that. Until then, unless you can pay for the relocation of it's residents, your argument is moot.lowing wrote:
hlaf of Florida is constantly flooded,it is called the Everglades that is why they didn't build any fuckin' cites there.So, the US can think they see WMDs in Iraq and go to war, but not think they hear a plea for help from New Orleans and give humanitarian aid? Seriously, you guys must be, like, the greatest people ever!lowing wrote:
It is up to the state to communicate with the federal govt. THEY DID NOT.
NO it isn't, See my post to that genious shipbuilder a few posts up.
THAT is not how it played out bubbalo and I suspect you knw it. But the truth does not paint a pretty picture for the state and local govts. of Louisiana. SO blaming Bush for the weather now is much more fun it seems.
Dude! Isn't Rumsfeld the same guy that sold them weapons in 1983 and then promoved the war against Iraq for having those weapons?lowing wrote:
Nooooooooo, the point is America, back in '43 sided with the lesser of two evils, the SOVIETS. Same with the US in the '80's we didn't like them but we needed them against who? THE SOVIETS. Times change and so do alliances. Germany and Japan are now allies. You act like there is some precedence set by the US allying with Iraq in the 80's. there is not.sergeriver wrote:
Take a while to read if you can take some time for it. Regarding Rumsfeld, the same guy that sold Saddam weapons in Reagan administration, then in Bush administration said that Irak is a threat coz Saddam had a lot of massive weapons, so let's invade Irak. Isn't that kinda evel to you?lowing wrote:
Yup, I don't see any bias there in any of those links, especially "democrats.com"
As far as rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam in 1983 all I can say is, I can show you a picture of rooselvelt ( a democrat) and Stalin in Tehran in 1943..what exactly is your POINT???
Very unhappy comparisson, Roosevelt shaking hands with Stalin is not the same situation. Roosevelt didn't sell any weapon to soviets as far as I know, so that is 2 presidents meeting.
Clinton: except for a blow job and some lands in the ass of the world what can you tell bout him?lowing wrote:
LOL, all of this talk about Rumsfeld and Cheney and Bush, as if there was NO corruption in Washington BEFORE these guys got there.
I seem to remember Bill Clintons "hit list" of all of his friends that have mysteriously all turned up dead...
Bottom line, I don't care what they do as long as the end result is a terrorism free America, and since Sept 12, 2001 after several attempts, this administration has kept this country terrorism free, and he did it with the only inconvience to the average American is longer waits at the airport.
Hello! Country terrorism free in your dreams, this guy is the same who was at charge in 2001, major terrorism attack in America's history, and since then american people had to live in state of paranoia. Don't please buy the shit this administration sells, they're guilty of 9/11 and the attacks in UK and Spain, among others.
I put you links to BBC and democrat party, if you don't trust them that is another issue.lowing wrote:
speaking of evil and scandals..........http://www.prorev.com/legacy.htm
although I am surethere is truth based on all the shit being cited here, including mine, but the internet is a fascinating thing, with it, we can accuse and "prove" conspiracy theories to our hearts content....and you call me naive??
go the bush admin
No, you're right, there's no responsibility in the Katrina events in New Orleans, or perhaps there is...lowing wrote:
yeah, lets not blame the STATE govt. for the Katrina events, or the people in New Orleans themselves for not leaving when ORDERED to. Lets not blame the looters, rapists, murderers, scam artists,, or the leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit. Lets blame FEMA. There should be no PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY attached to any of the events in New Orleans.
Explain this, how does Florida get hit 3 or 4 times a fuckin' YEAR by massive hurricanes and you don't hear bitching or the stories that even come close to the shit the people of NEW ORLEANS and its "CENSORED" Mayor were doing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02261.html
Some ppl would argue that its George Bush Sr & Jr's Foreign policies that have brought these terrorists to the US homeland. The list of security/intelligence fuck ups in the Run up to 9/11 by JR's government is well documented. Unquestioning support for Israels destruction and destabilizing of the Middle east, the arming and training of Osama and his buddies, the U-turn on support for Saddam, the support for dictators in the area and the dropping of bombs from a great height....Then they create this climate of fear to make the citizens surrender their human rights. Even its name suggests it real meaning. "Patriot Act" so if you don't support it you aren't a patriot. A REAL patriot stands up for his Country when its is so obviously being railroaded by a pile of owl worshiping fascists....I could go on.....Well done the Bushes!!!!lowing wrote:
So to clarify, you are going to trash this administration for its current ( SUCCESSFUL ) efforts to keep us free from terrorism, and now you are going to trash this administration for FUTURE events that may or may not materialize?? I am the only one that senses the hopelessness for rational thinking from shipbuilder or the other terrorist lap dogs like him??
yeah, lets not blame the STATE govt. for the Katrina events, or the people in New Orleans themselves for not leaving when ORDERED to. Lets not blame the looters, rapists, murderers, scam artists,, or the leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit. Lets blame FEMA. There should be no PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY attached to any of the events in New Orleans.
Explain this, how does Florida get hit 3 or 4 times a fuckin' YEAR by massive hurricanes and you don't hear bitching or the stories that even come close to the shit the people of NEW ORLEANS and its "CENSORED" Mayor were doing.
and thanks for agreeing with me in your first paragraph, I am glad to see we can agree on stuff.
(I can't refer to Mayor Nagin and his Chocolate city debacle.........I have been warned.)
And what your saying basically is Florida is White and you don't hear any complaints from them when they get hit by a hurricane as apposed to them, black I presume "leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit."
Your racism is apparent. So was your governments when they fucked around with the rescue effort. Fema couldn't have made a fuck up, after all they are rich white men, it must have something to do with the poor black under classes of new Orleans and their "Mayor Nagin and his Chocolate city debacle", its their fault emmmmm somehow. I have never seen Miami under 12ft of water.
Media wasn't fair in the portrayal of New Orleans either. I'm sure you know of the white people finding food/black people looting food from a store pictures. Then they got absolutely rabid after wrongdoing by a *FEW* people who got FEMA money.
Personally I think the media did it because they'd crucified FEMA after it happened and people got bored of that story. So what sells? NEW ORLEANS SURVIVORS USING MONEY TO GO TO STRIP CLUBS AND RAPING AND KILLING PEOPLE AND GETTING SEX CHANGES AND MUTILATING KITTENS AND POISONING THE WELL. It's just sensationalism.
Personally I think the media did it because they'd crucified FEMA after it happened and people got bored of that story. So what sells? NEW ORLEANS SURVIVORS USING MONEY TO GO TO STRIP CLUBS AND RAPING AND KILLING PEOPLE AND GETTING SEX CHANGES AND MUTILATING KITTENS AND POISONING THE WELL. It's just sensationalism.
Guys don't take about politics its AL ******. Think about the guys who fight fore freedom. Suport them and not the one from the politic.
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Good point.sergeriver wrote:
No, you're right, there's no responsibility in the Katrina events in New Orleans, or perhaps there is...lowing wrote:
yeah, lets not blame the STATE govt. for the Katrina events, or the people in New Orleans themselves for not leaving when ORDERED to. Lets not blame the looters, rapists, murderers, scam artists,, or the leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit. Lets blame FEMA. There should be no PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY attached to any of the events in New Orleans.
Explain this, how does Florida get hit 3 or 4 times a fuckin' YEAR by massive hurricanes and you don't hear bitching or the stories that even come close to the shit the people of NEW ORLEANS and its "CENSORED" Mayor were doing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02261.html
Bush was office for what, 100 days before the attacks, which incedentally were in planning long before Bush got into office. Who was in the White House is completely irrelevent to the event. It was going to happen anyway.sergeriver wrote:
Clinton: except for a blow job and some lands in the ass of the world what can you tell bout him?lowing wrote:
LOL, all of this talk about Rumsfeld and Cheney and Bush, as if there was NO corruption in Washington BEFORE these guys got there.
I seem to remember Bill Clintons "hit list" of all of his friends that have mysteriously all turned up dead...
Bottom line, I don't care what they do as long as the end result is a terrorism free America, and since Sept 12, 2001 after several attempts, this administration has kept this country terrorism free, and he did it with the only inconvience to the average American is longer waits at the airport.
Hello! Country terrorism free in your dreams, this guy is the same who was at charge in 2001, major terrorism attack in America's history, and since then american people had to live in state of paranoia. Don't please buy the shit this administration sells, they're guilty of 9/11 and the attacks in UK and Spain, among others.
Also, please don't even begin to think, about trying to even suggest, that you are going to hint, that terrorism did not happen under Clintons watch!!
Other than your conspericy theory web sites, ( that I can buy the whole video for 19.95) do you have any proof to your claim that Bush is responsible for 911 and Spain and London bombings, "among others"??
Florida is white huh??...When was the last time you have been there pal??.....ESPECIALLY MIAMI!!JahManRed wrote:
Some ppl would argue that its George Bush Sr & Jr's Foreign policies that have brought these terrorists to the US homeland. The list of security/intelligence fuck ups in the Run up to 9/11 by JR's government is well documented. Unquestioning support for Israels destruction and destabilizing of the Middle east, the arming and training of Osama and his buddies, the U-turn on support for Saddam, the support for dictators in the area and the dropping of bombs from a great height....Then they create this climate of fear to make the citizens surrender their human rights. Even its name suggests it real meaning. "Patriot Act" so if you don't support it you aren't a patriot. A REAL patriot stands up for his Country when its is so obviously being railroaded by a pile of owl worshiping fascists....I could go on.....Well done the Bushes!!!!lowing wrote:
So to clarify, you are going to trash this administration for its current ( SUCCESSFUL ) efforts to keep us free from terrorism, and now you are going to trash this administration for FUTURE events that may or may not materialize?? I am the only one that senses the hopelessness for rational thinking from shipbuilder or the other terrorist lap dogs like him??
yeah, lets not blame the STATE govt. for the Katrina events, or the people in New Orleans themselves for not leaving when ORDERED to. Lets not blame the looters, rapists, murderers, scam artists,, or the leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit. Lets blame FEMA. There should be no PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY attached to any of the events in New Orleans.
Explain this, how does Florida get hit 3 or 4 times a fuckin' YEAR by massive hurricanes and you don't hear bitching or the stories that even come close to the shit the people of NEW ORLEANS and its "CENSORED" Mayor were doing.
and thanks for agreeing with me in your first paragraph, I am glad to see we can agree on stuff.
(I can't refer to Mayor Nagin and his Chocolate city debacle.........I have been warned.)
And what your saying basically is Florida is White and you don't hear any complaints from them when they get hit by a hurricane as apposed to them, black I presume "leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit."
Your racism is apparent. So was your governments when they fucked around with the rescue effort. Fema couldn't have made a fuck up, after all they are rich white men, it must have something to do with the poor black under classes of new Orleans and their "Mayor Nagin and his Chocolate city debacle", its their fault emmmmm somehow. I have never seen Miami under 12ft of water.
Funny how, I did not mention race or color in my post, and you accuse me of all of this shit. makes ya wonder who the racist really is.
Lets play a game, raise your hand if you can name 1 of TWO PRESIDENTS that have EVER been impeached.sergeriver wrote:
Clinton: except for a blow job and some lands in the ass of the world what can you tell bout him?lowing wrote:
LOL, all of this talk about Rumsfeld and Cheney and Bush, as if there was NO corruption in Washington BEFORE these guys got there.
I seem to remember Bill Clintons "hit list" of all of his friends that have mysteriously all turned up dead...
Bottom line, I don't care what they do as long as the end result is a terrorism free America, and since Sept 12, 2001 after several attempts, this administration has kept this country terrorism free, and he did it with the only inconvience to the average American is longer waits at the airport.
Hello! Country terrorism free in your dreams, this guy is the same who was at charge in 2001, major terrorism attack in America's history, and since then american people had to live in state of paranoia. Don't please buy the shit this administration sells, they're guilty of 9/11 and the attacks in UK and Spain, among others.
Neh yer right Clinton wasn't scandalous at all. He was an ANGELLLLLLLLLLL.
Bottom line.........How many of those people that died would have died if they left like they were ordered to??Bertster7 wrote:
Good point.sergeriver wrote:
No, you're right, there's no responsibility in the Katrina events in New Orleans, or perhaps there is...lowing wrote:
yeah, lets not blame the STATE govt. for the Katrina events, or the people in New Orleans themselves for not leaving when ORDERED to. Lets not blame the looters, rapists, murderers, scam artists,, or the leeches that took that 2,000 bucks given to them by the tax payers for relief and went to titty bars and shit. Lets blame FEMA. There should be no PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY attached to any of the events in New Orleans.
Explain this, how does Florida get hit 3 or 4 times a fuckin' YEAR by massive hurricanes and you don't hear bitching or the stories that even come close to the shit the people of NEW ORLEANS and its "CENSORED" Mayor were doing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02261.html
personal responsibility.
I know I know you liberals NEED THE GOVT. to take care of you.........Most of us don't.
DesertFox423 wrote:
BigmacK192 wrote:
You'd be incorrect. There are few people left in the US that actually support the president.The_Shipbuilder wrote:
My guess is that most American BF2 players skew to the right and will vote positively, and that the vast majority of non-Americans will vote negatively.
I'm one of those people.
Bush Administration FTW.
Proud of em'.
Hey it's lowing, our own Ignatius J. Reilly! Prepare to enjoy the Lowing Zone, where it's all opinions, all sarcastic pretense, all the time. Always free of original opinions and sources.lowing wrote:
Bottom line.........How many of those people that died would have died if they left like they were ordered to??Bertster7 wrote:
Good point.sergeriver wrote:
No, you're right, there's no responsibility in the Katrina events in New Orleans, or perhaps there is...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02261.html
personal responsibility.
I know I know you liberals NEED THE GOVT. to take care of you.........Most of us don't.
Not suprised, not to sterotype or anything but when was the last time anyone from OC agreeded with anything American.PRiMACORD wrote:
American and think they are evil.
Thats a funny guess you got there. The French had been out of power for 15 years and were never coming back. We were preserving president Nguyen Van Thieu's brand of democracy in the South.. Also having our own interests and goals doesnt automaticaly erase any good will and aid we were giving to the people in SVietnam.jonismon wrote:
Vietnam was never about liberating anyone. It was about trying to secure a french hold over the land in order to deprive the soviets of a potential ally. Every endevour during the cold war was selfishly intended to remove a potential soviet ally.
does it really matter?
we all die eventually.
i just whish a new president would get in the seat so i didnt have to click off these anti bush fuckin popup's everywhere i go on the web
we all die eventually.
i just whish a new president would get in the seat so i didnt have to click off these anti bush fuckin popup's everywhere i go on the web