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Poll

Bush administration: awesome or evil?

Awesome. I'm American.12%12% - 39
Mostly good. I'm American.16%16% - 52
Mostly bad. I'm American.11%11% - 35
Evil. I'm American.21%21% - 68
Awesome. I'm not American.2%2% - 9
Mostly good. I'm not American.3%3% - 10
Mostly bad. I'm not American.14%14% - 46
Evil. I'm not American.18%18% - 58
Total: 317
2006-08-17 07:56:51
Chuckles
Member
+32|6750

Dersmikner wrote:

i'm happy with their foreign policy.

The "spend the shit out of all the money" Decmocratic Party philosophy they've developed here at home is what pisses me off.
From wikipedia:

Federal spending in constant dollars increased under Bush by 26% in his first 4 and a half years. Non-defense spending increased 18% in that time. [8]

The tax cuts, recession, and increases in outlays all contributed to record budget deficits during the Bush administration. The annual deficit reached record current-dollar levels of $374 billion in 2003 and $413 billion in 2004. National debt, the cumulative total of yearly deficits, rose from $5.7 trillion (58% of GDP) to $8.3 trillion (67% of GDP) under Bush, as compared to the $2.7 trillion total debt owed when Ronald Reagan left office, which was 52% of the GDP.

According to the "baseline" forecast of federal revenue and spending by the Congressional Budget Office (in its January 2005 Baseline Budget Projections [9], the budget deficits will decrease over the next several years. In this projection the deficit will fall to 368 billion (USD) in 2005, 261 billion (USD) in 2007, and 207 billion (USD) in 2009, with a small surplus by 2012. The CBO noted, however, that this projection “omits a significant amount of spending that will occur this year — and possibly for some time to come — for U.S. military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and for other activities related to the global War on Terrorism.” The projection also assumes that the Bush tax cuts "will expire as scheduled on December 31, 2010". If, as Bush has urged, the tax cuts were to be extended, then "the budget outlook for 2015 would change from a surplus of 141 billion (USD) to a deficit of 282 billion (USD)".
2006-08-17 15:34:43
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

IIn our system, the state govt. is the first line of defense in its own affairs. It is up to the state govt. to provide first response action. and ask for assistance when needed. I agree that FEMA was ill prepared for this, however, the people of New Orleans bare the greater responsibility by NOT doing what was ordered. If they had  taken care of themselves like they were supposed to, ALL levels of govt. might have been able to handle the crisis far more effectively. As it turned out, because of the residents and local and state govt. inaction in the beginning, the first priority HAD to be search and rescue, then body recovery of all the people that broke the law, instead of effective clean up. They had a weeks notice, bubbalo......PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!
Wow, you are so hard to understand what people that think different than you write.  If the goverment told em "hey, you must leave your home coz we the assholes in the White House, didn't give the money required to solve the problem and so you could stay coz we were playin BF2 Strike at Iraq instead taking care about civilians security", would you leave all you have behind to be ruined by water and pillage?  I don't think so, you wouldn't.  So stop blaming people.
When you stop babbling and respond intelligently I will answer you, as it turns out, I have no idea what you are saying.
2006-08-17 15:36:15
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:


Serge: Lowing's schtick is this:

- he demands proof and sources for every statement that disagrees with his own viewpoint.
- he posts his own opinions - always completely free of sources or facts.
- if he is asked to provide sources and facts to back up his statements, he sarcastically says "GOD it's just SO obvious to EVERYONE, why should I provide sources, are you that stupid?!?!?!?" or something similar. He then asks YOU another question, to distract people from the fact that he doesn't back up his opinions, and puts YOU on the defensive.
- if he feels he has lost an argument, he will distract everyone from that fact by inventing some other way to prove that you are an idiot, and he will defensively bring this up again and again until you get bored of arguing with him.

Lowing is the ultimate troll. His communication strategy is very similar to that employed by North Korean negotiators.

He is insecure and needs constant validation, either from himself or from others. Serge, I would advise to give up attempting to discuss anything with him. Instead, just try to make him think he's doing a "good job". We should clap for him, and encourage him, just as we clap and cheer for Special Olympics athletes.
"Ok, I'll try to stay cool like The ship builder does with you, so I do know that those attacks were hand made by terrorists, but the responsibility falls totally on GWB.  Do you understand the difference.  The guy is an asshole and a drunk, took awful decisions in every issue since he stole 2000 election to democrat Al Gore, then he stole another election.  He fucked up in the war in Iraq, he cut taxes, he blew the budget, he almost broke US economy and the people is paying the price for his faults, he's a major danger to America and the World and should be impeached.  If you think Clinton lied to grand jury once, lets imagine how many lies would have to say this asshole if he were impeached.  He didn't planned the attacks, besides he can't plan anything.  He dances as Cheney moves the stick in his ass."


The above BS is what you want ME to show links to dis prove. I don't think so. The burden of proof is most definitely on him, not me.
Yeah, Lowing I'm the one full of shit, not you.  Of course, yes, hey little puppy come on, come on let's play.
your lack of a response tells me you really don't have one. still no proof to the allegations.
2006-08-17 15:37:17
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

And in return were given half of Europe.


But relocating takes money, and a lot of it.  I fail to see how personal responsibility has anything to do with the dam breaking.

I'm just going to leave the other one, as it comes down to a core difference in opinion: in mine, failing to predict how residents would react and taking appropriate action is a failing of the organisations.
AFTER the war correct??


It doesn't. Personal responsibilty comes to into play when you aretold of a level 5 hurricane headed your way that has a 160 MPH punch and YOU yourself ignore the warning. I guess the govt. is responsibly for the 55 or deaths when MT. St. Helens erupted as well. They were also told to leave. I cite a Mr Harry Truman as an example. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/mountsthe … ry11.shtml

No, at some point you HAVE to expect that people will obey the laws. Do not blame the govt. for this bubbalo. These people refused to leave, at their own peril as it turned out.
Man you are so full of shit.  Quoting you is enough to answer you.
Same as above, "yer fulla shit" without any back up, isn't really worth much.
2006-08-17 15:40:52
-Whiteroom-
Pineapplewhat
+572|6861|BC, Canada
i think we should give each of them a knife, put them in a dark room togeather, and tell them that osama is in there too. then just gas whoever is still alive at the end.
by this i was talking about cheney, bush, and rumsfeld.

Last edited by Nicholas Langdon (2006-08-17 16:07:10)

2006-08-17 16:05:48
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6959|Argentina

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

IIn our system, the state govt. is the first line of defense in its own affairs. It is up to the state govt. to provide first response action. and ask for assistance when needed. I agree that FEMA was ill prepared for this, however, the people of New Orleans bare the greater responsibility by NOT doing what was ordered. If they had  taken care of themselves like they were supposed to, ALL levels of govt. might have been able to handle the crisis far more effectively. As it turned out, because of the residents and local and state govt. inaction in the beginning, the first priority HAD to be search and rescue, then body recovery of all the people that broke the law, instead of effective clean up. They had a weeks notice, bubbalo......PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!
Wow, you are so hard to understand what people that think different than you write.  If the goverment told em "hey, you must leave your home coz we the assholes in the White House, didn't give the money required to solve the problem and so you could stay coz we were playin BF2 Strike at Iraq instead taking care about civilians security", would you leave all you have behind to be ruined by water and pillage?  I don't think so, you wouldn't.  So stop blaming people.
When you stop babbling and respond intelligently I will answer you, as it turns out, I have no idea what you are saying.
I rest my case.  You don't understand.
2006-08-17 16:08:03
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6959|Argentina
After reading Lowing's bullshit...
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=39898

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-08-17 16:32:15)

2006-08-17 19:17:54
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Wow, you are so hard to understand what people that think different than you write.  If the goverment told em "hey, you must leave your home coz we the assholes in the White House, didn't give the money required to solve the problem and so you could stay coz we were playin BF2 Strike at Iraq instead taking care about civilians security", would you leave all you have behind to be ruined by water and pillage?  I don't think so, you wouldn't.  So stop blaming people.
When you stop babbling and respond intelligently I will answer you, as it turns out, I have no idea what you are saying.
I rest my case.  You don't understand.
I disected your post, at an attempt to figure out what the hell you aretalking about. 


So based on what you aretrying to say, the answerto your question is YES!!!.. I will leave all I own to save the life of my family and myself....Quite a no brainer.
2006-08-17 19:19:23
splixx
ChupaCABRA
+53|6941|Omaha, Nebraska
American - the worst criminals in history.
2006-08-18 03:02:58
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

AFTER the war correct??
Actually, agreements were finalised long before the war ended.

I'm done talking about New Orleans, we're getting nowhere.
I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
2006-08-18 03:11:36
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6911|Wilmington, DE, US

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

AFTER the war correct??
Actually, agreements were finalised long before the war ended.

I'm done talking about New Orleans, we're getting nowhere.
I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Also they were told the levees would hold, not to mention many of them didn't have the same access to transportation out of the area that the people who left did. Just something to consider.
2006-08-18 03:34:05
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

Ikarti wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


Actually, agreements were finalised long before the war ended.

I'm done talking about New Orleans, we're getting nowhere.
I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Also they were told the levees would hold, not to mention many of them didn't have the same access to transportation out of the area that the people who left did. Just something to consider.
With a weeks notice, they coulda frickin WALKED out.
2006-08-18 05:34:03
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6959|Argentina

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

lowing wrote:

AFTER the war correct??
Actually, agreements were finalised long before the war ended.

I'm done talking about New Orleans, we're getting nowhere.
I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Dear Profesor Bigshot Lowing,

As I have noticed, and I'll speak by myself, my lack of intelligence and the absence of proofs in all my allegations, took you to this irrational and unusual behaviour, insulting both Shipbuilder and myself.  So, in order to maintain your huge reputation and popularity among this community, I apologize for taking you to this road of foolishness and for the deception it might cause to all your beloved fans.

Lowing fans and supporters all the apologies to you for getting your true hero into this low conversation.

+1 billion to you Lowing
2006-08-18 07:32:00
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6959|Argentina
Lowing, this article I found in one major news site.  It may not be a proof, but I think it makes the point.

George Bush has started an ill-timed and disastrous war under false pretenses by lying to the American people and to the Congress; he has run a budget surplus into a severe deficit; he has consistently and unconscionably favored the wealthy and corporations over the rights and needs of the population; he has destroyed trust and confidence in, and good will toward, the United States around the globe; he has ignored global warming, to the world's detriment; he has wantonly broken our treaty obligations; he has condoned torture of prisoners; he has attempted to create a theocracy in the United States; he has appointed incompetent cronies to positions of vital national importance.

Now, would someone please give him a blow job so we can impeach him?
2006-08-18 07:34:41
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6959|Argentina
To finish the debate regarding Bush is evil, I will conclude he is not.  An evil person couldn't say this.

President George W. Bush Quotes of Stupidity

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
2006-08-18 08:08:43
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6783|SE London

sergeriver wrote:

To finish the debate regarding Bush is evil, I will conclude he is not.  An evil person couldn't say this.

President George W. Bush Quotes of Stupidity

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
lol

Bush is always good for amusing quotes, like;

"Most of our imports come from abroad"

"We have the best educated Americans in the world"

"Welcome Mrs Bush and my fellow astronauts"
2006-08-18 08:13:33
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6959|Argentina

Bertster7 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

To finish the debate regarding Bush is evil, I will conclude he is not.  An evil person couldn't say this.

President George W. Bush Quotes of Stupidity

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
lol

Bush is always good for amusing quotes, like;

"Most of our imports come from abroad"

"We have the best educated Americans in the world"

"Welcome Mrs Bush and my fellow astronauts"
The second one deserves to share first place.
2006-08-18 11:42:15
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6829

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

I'm proud of my boys. They have propelled USA towards achieving several goals in difficult circumstances. Free and fair elections in Afghanistan & Iraq. Freedom from the tyranny of Saddam and the Taliban. Osama holed up in some cave, effectively of no use to anyone. I'm guessing they are planning to bring freedom and proper democracy to Cuba and Venezuela in the very near future too. Sterling work team. If only GW could run for a thrid term - we could move on to sorting out Africa.
Bought and paid for by the good ole USA.  Sorry I don't like a 33 trillion dollar deficit which he's put us into.  His administration is evil by misleading the American public on why we went to war in Iraq.  Pick a reason WMD's, training camps for Al Queda, both proven lies.  The last but not least, Sadaam was a bad man.  Yes he was, but why have we killed 2500 of our finest youth's to prove it.  If you look in the urban divtionary you'll find under evil Bush Chaney and Rumsfeld's pictures.
2006-08-18 11:45:40
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6829

Ikarti wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


Actually, agreements were finalised long before the war ended.

I'm done talking about New Orleans, we're getting nowhere.
I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Also they were told the levees would hold, not to mention many of them didn't have the same access to transportation out of the area that the people who left did. Just something to consider.
They were also told the year before in a mock excercise that the levees would not sustain a cat. 5 hurricane.
2006-08-18 11:54:16
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6829

sergeriver wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

To finish the debate regarding Bush is evil, I will conclude he is not.  An evil person couldn't say this.

President George W. Bush Quotes of Stupidity

10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000

9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000

8) "I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000

6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
lol

Bush is always good for amusing quotes, like;

"Most of our imports come from abroad"

"We have the best educated Americans in the world"

"Welcome Mrs Bush and my fellow astronauts"
The second one deserves to share first place.
I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.
2006-08-18 12:14:03
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6703|Los Angeles

GATOR591957 wrote:

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.
Interesting! So you're saying that Bush subconsciously wants to harm our country.

If not, what else could you possibly mean by Freudian slip? Or did you use the term even without fully understanding it?
2006-08-18 12:22:48
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6783|SE London

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.
Interesting! So you're saying that Bush subconsciously wants to harm our country.

If not, what else could you possibly mean by Freudian slip? Or did you use the term even without fully understanding it?
lol

That proves it for me - he is evil!

lol

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-08-18 12:23:17)

2006-08-18 14:52:23
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6829

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.
Interesting! So you're saying that Bush subconsciously wants to harm our country.

If not, what else could you possibly mean by Freudian slip? Or did you use the term even without fully understanding it?
In reviewing his 6 yrs. I'd have to say yes.  You may disagree, however his track record speaks for itself.  Do you remember no child left behind and how much he was going to do for education.  Ask any teacher if they are further ahead than before his initiation of this project that has been left behind.  I believe his presence as a leader of the USA has hurt the American people and our reputation abroad.  Which if you haven't looked lately is suffering.  Like it or not we need the rest of the world.  Times have changed from the United States being the providers to the world to the United States being the consumers of the world.  The only way to turn this back around is through education.  Something this administration has neglected.
2006-08-18 15:01:52
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6783|SE London

GATOR591957 wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

GATOR591957 wrote:

2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

I'd say #2 was more of a Freudian slip than a stupid comment.
Interesting! So you're saying that Bush subconsciously wants to harm our country.

If not, what else could you possibly mean by Freudian slip? Or did you use the term even without fully understanding it?
In reviewing his 6 yrs. I'd have to say yes.  You may disagree, however his track record speaks for itself.  Do you remember no child left behind and how much he was going to do for education.  Ask any teacher if they are further ahead than before his initiation of this project that has been left behind.  I believe his presence as a leader of the USA has hurt the American people and our reputation abroad.  Which if you haven't looked lately is suffering.  Like it or not we need the rest of the world.  Times have changed from the United States being the providers to the world to the United States being the consumers of the world.  The only way to turn this back around is through education.  Something this administration has neglected.
Totally agree.
2006-08-18 15:36:35
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6853|USA

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:


Actually, agreements were finalised long before the war ended.

I'm done talking about New Orleans, we're getting nowhere.
I don't blame you not wanting to talk about New Orleans any more, it is quite hard to defend people's lack of exercising responsibility for THEIR own actions, I will say nice try though. You at least tried intelligently, unlike shipbuilder and sergeriver, who can only come up with insults in lieu of a real response, to explaining why people didn't heed the warnings.

It really is almost like getting run over by a steam roller. They saw the steam roller coming for a week, was told that a steam roller was going to run them over if they didn't move, was ORDERED to move so you didn't get run over by the steam roller. Then after a week the steam roller ran over them, and now they are blaming the govt because they got hit? PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Dear Profesor Bigshot Lowing,

As I have noticed, and I'll speak by myself, my lack of intelligence and the absence of proofs in all my allegations, took you to this irrational and unusual behaviour, insulting both Shipbuilder and myself.  So, in order to maintain your huge reputation and popularity among this community, I apologize for taking you to this road of foolishness and for the deception it might cause to all your beloved fans.

Lowing fans and supporters all the apologies to you for getting your true hero into this low conversation.

+1 billion to you Lowing
Oh ok, so I was insulting and patronizing you huh???.Got it!!

anyway, thanks for the billion

 

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