Poll

Will gas go over 4 dollars a gallon in southern california because of

Yes78%78% - 52
No21%21% - 14
Total: 66
eusgen
Nugget
+402|6799|Jupiter

Marconius wrote:

I'm so glad I don't drive...
What?, do you ride a bike or walk? Please clarify
WilhelmSissener
Banned
+557|6740|Oslo, Norway

PBAsydney wrote:

WilhelmSissener wrote:

blabla american idiot bla bla bla open your head bla bla bla guy next to me lean away from my keyboard and don't spit on me bla bla bla i don't care bla bla bla

edit: in norway the tax on feul is 75% if i'm right...
I think it's funny that the oil kings of the north have the most expensive gas
"It's for the enviorment"

*tries to blame the sosialists*

EVERYONE POINT AND LAUGHT AT THE LOGOS!!!!!!!

https://www.antidoping.no/files/%7B1D9F88F7-2D7F-410A-96BF-A8CB4B183DC3%7D.jpghttps://www.sv.no/gfx/reMars2005/logoV2.gifhttps://www.senterpartiet.no/uploads/topp_v.jpg
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6556|Southeastern USA
http://www.conocophillips.com/newsroom/ … rofits.htm
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog … excee.html
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business … 05-03.html

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/biz/ind … ntid=92655
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02399.html



now one thing the second pair of articles fail to address is that gas companies have to use, shoot, someone help me with the term, i think it's called inventory profit, meaning that they have to plan for the price increase usually at least 2 quarters down the road. They stock pile the gas at (just grabbing numbers for explainification) $.80, and then sell it at $.88 (we'll leave taxes out and just give them a round 10% profit margin), but then while that ($.80) stockpile is being depleted, the cost for them to replenish the inventory goes up to $.85, so then they are left with only about 3% to work with, then the (.85) stockpile is sold at another 10% profit. The media is all too glad to jump on the initial 10% profit, and always broadcast it in dollar amounts for shock value, keep in mind that the gasoline companies never process solely gasoline, but methane, propane, butane and the like as well. So the dollar amount of a 10% inventory profit across their product board is just plain inconceivable to pretty much anyone any of us are likely to meet. How about some of these politicians that are so ready to accuse the oil companies of gouging while their own leglislation has added up to .60 cents a gallon start reducing the state tax on said gallon? http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/stati … _2002.html
Now my state typically ranks in the top end of road quality, but has some of the lowest taxes, so what are the states with almost 2X the tax doing with that money? Especially the ones that used DOT funding as a reason to approve state lotteries?
Also, don't forget the large role china has to play in the price as well, profits, being tied to volume, are likely to increase in direct proportion to consumption, so when consumption increases exponentially, so will profit.

edit: I live in georgia, and if you don't think we have traffic you have never been here, granted we don't have the freeze fractures of say the great lakes states, but I-75 and I-90 are two of the heaviest traveled corridors in North America, and Atlanta has world renowned traffic, as well as the world's busiest airport ( I need to find out what the tax on JP-8 is),

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-08-09 18:10:06)

WilhelmSissener
Banned
+557|6740|Oslo, Norway

kr@cker wrote:

http://www.conocophillips.com/newsroom/other_resources/energyanswers/oil_profits.htm
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog … excee.html
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/business … 05-03.html

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/biz/ind … ntid=92655
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 02399.html



now one thing the second pair of articles fail to address is that gas companies have to use, shoot, someone help me with the term, i think it's called inventory profit, meaning that they have to plan for the price increase usually at least 2 quarters down the road. They stock pile the gas at (just grabbing numbers for explainification) $.80, and then sell it at $.88 (we'll leave taxes out and just give them a round 10% profit margin), but then while that ($.80) stockpile is being depleted, the cost for them to replenish the inventory goes up to $.85, so then they are left with only about 3% to work with, then the (.85) stockpile is sold at another 10% profit. The media is all too glad to jump on the initial 10% profit, and always broadcast it in dollar amounts for shock value, keep in mind that the gasoline companies never process solely gasoline, but methane, propane, butane and the like as well. So the dollar amount of a 10% inventory profit across their product board is just plain inconceivable to pretty much anyone any of us are likely to meet. How about some of these politicians that are so ready to accuse the oil companies of gouging while their own leglislation has added up to .60 cents a gallon start reducing the state tax on said gallon? http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/stati … _2002.html
Now my state typically ranks in the top end of road quality, but has some of the lowest taxes, so what are the states with almost 2X the tax doing with that money? Especially the ones that used DOT funding as a reason to approve state lotteries?
Also, don't forget the large role china has to play in the price as well, profits, being tied to volume, are likely to increase in direct proportion to consumption, so when consumption increases exponentially, so will profit.

edit: I live in georgia, and if you don't think we have traffic you have never been here, granted we don't have the freeze fractures of say the great lakes states, but I-75 and I-90 are two of the heaviest traveled corridors in North America, and Atlanta has world renowned traffic, as well as the world's busiest airport ( I need to find out what the tax on JP-8 is),
long boring post spotted retreat!!
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6556|Southeastern USA
you read it though
WilhelmSissener
Banned
+557|6740|Oslo, Norway

kr@cker wrote:

you read it though
no, i;m not that bored + where i'm at has a block for stuff like news and finance stuff but not porn, idiots...

and no i do not wanna go to www.proxify.com
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6556|Southeastern USA
it seems being sober for a few weeks is a few weeks too long, too bad them thar likker stores is closeded
Pw.Sultan
Member
+15|6485|NC
until a president with a mind set to get prices down( and who actually realizes theres price gouging going on) and who has determination to change to a widely recognized alternative fuel source people just need to suck it up.. and united states cars get shit mileage on gas compared to countries overseas..

Last edited by Pw.Sultan (2006-08-09 18:32:03)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6536|Global Command

david363 wrote:

that seems pretty expensive, but over here in the UK petrol has gone to Over £1 a litre, to fill up my car now, it costs me near £70
Well at least you only have to pay in those funny little L symbols you Brits use.
Filling my Dodge  ( I own 5 American gas guzzling work trucks btw besides my Dodge. ) cost $ 55 dollars.
Harmonics
A stabbing fatality
+22|6510

ATG wrote:

david363 wrote:

that seems pretty expensive, but over here in the UK petrol has gone to Over £1 a litre, to fill up my car now, it costs me near £70
Well at least you only have to pay in those funny little L symbols you Brits use.
Filling my Dodge  ( I own 5 American gas guzzling work trucks btw besides my Dodge. ) cost $ 55 dollars.
At least? Only?!

$55 is nothing.

£70 = 133.42 US$

according to google.

You americans have got it good, stop whining about yout $3 gallons. We are paying $6.

I dont have a job at the moment, I only buy petrol in the gallon because I cant afford anymore.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|6835
93 octane just hit $4 on Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard.
BVC
Member
+325|6702
Oh noes.  Its $NZ1.80/L here ($US4/gallon), has been for ages, no big deal.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|6783|Antwerp, Flanders
I haven't got a clue what gasoline costs over here, wait lemme check I filled up my car this morning...

Ah, 1,444 €/l for Eurosuper 95. Too lazy to convert to $ and gallon.

Just converted it: 6.9775 $ per gallon

Last edited by Rosse_modest (2006-08-11 04:46:43)

Jussimies
Finnish commander whore
+76|6591|Finland
Dont complain, here the prize is 1.50€/LITER and it is getting really expensive.
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6638|Finland

Jussimies wrote:

Dont complain, here the prize is 1.50€/LITER and it is getting really expensive.
Poor Jussi.. Just filled up 130 km south of you for 1,32..
I need around tree fiddy.
Sydney
2λчиэλ
+783|6850|Reykjavík, Iceland.

Jussimies wrote:

Dont complain, here the prize is 1.50€/LITER and it is getting really expensive.
For those who don't know liters, that would be around the same as Iceland, which is 1.44 a liter, or $7 a gallon

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