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2006-08-08 08:48:32
TehMyke
8======D
+343|6929
L9 - Better for long long range once you master the bullet drop, no damage to helis.

M95 - Not to great for long range with the thick crosshair, but good if you know you'll be playing with choppers... Does 1bar damage to a chopper shooting at the cockpit, aka if a chooper is smoking pretty good, unload on it. (sharqi ftw)

all depands on the map/area of map you're fighting.
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2006-08-08 08:51:20
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6847|Warlord

ChyneseGUY wrote:

is the M95 affected less by bullet drop then the L96A1.
No.

ChyneseGUY wrote:

Other then that is there any other advantages other then piercing bulletproof glass that the M95 would have over the L96A1...
(Normally) it'll take any class down to two bars of health, meaning they can be taken down with a single pistol shot. With the M24 and L96A1 it's only down to 40% of health.

I say normally because every now and then you get shots with the sniper rifles that either don't register at all or only take off a smaller chunk of health (see more here, look down to the later post) so do bear that in mind if you don't get someone with the first pistol shot after shooting them with the M95 they may not be cheating

ChyneseGUY wrote:

...or is the M95 just shit...
Some people think so. In all honesty it's not great (neither as easy to use, nor as accurate) over longer ranges than the L96A1 so if you snipe at shorter ranges... say 200m and below... you shouldn't have too many problems. Plus you still have the option of using the M24 any time you're USMC which is the supposed to have the same shooting parameters as the L96A1 (the differences are in the scope, sound and reload time).


stryyker wrote:

more bullet drop on the M95.

Altophish wrote:

Yes the M95 has more bullet drop...

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

M95 has less bullet drop...
Jemme beat me to it Thanks again for spreading the word Jemme.


Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Jemme101 wrote:

BULLETDROP IS THE SAME FOR ALL WEAPONS IN THE GAME
May be so,but because of the different scope with the fatass crosshairs it looks as if the bulletdrop is different.
Yes, that's where the myth perpetuates I'm sure.

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Using the L96 all the time made my M95-accuracy go down the drain,but if you exclusively use the M95 you can be as accurate as with the L96 and piss off chopper pilots all the time.
Remember the M95 is actually half as accurate... sorry, let me put that another way, the bullets from the M95 are half as accurate... as the M24 and L96A1 (0.005 v. 0.01).

The longer the range the more this will become an issue.
2006-08-08 08:53:48
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6916|Germany

TehMyke wrote:

M95 - Does 1bar damage to a chopper shooting at the cockpit, aka if a chooper is smoking pretty good, unload on it.
Wrong!
M95 does 2.5 bars damage on the cockpit glass,0.5-1(random thing) on the rest of the hull.
2006-08-08 09:01:53
TehMyke
8======D
+343|6929

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

TehMyke wrote:

M95 - Does 1bar damage to a chopper shooting at the cockpit, aka if a chooper is smoking pretty good, unload on it.
Wrong!
M95 does 2.5 bars damage on the cockpit glass,0.5-1(random thing) on the rest of the hull.
meh
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2006-08-08 09:03:04
bennisboy
Member
+829|6866|Poundland
I want the L96!!! I'm too cheap to buy SF tho
2006-08-08 09:04:48
[GPIII]_Maj.Bong
Member
+5|6844
.50 caliber is badass
2006-08-08 09:11:07
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6916|Germany

bennisboy wrote:

I want the L96!!! I'm too cheap to buy SF tho
LOL,you got guys like Tahadar and dont_be_ss + the rest of the sniper community on your hit list and don't have the L96?
Good Luck,kiddo.

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-08-08 09:12:03)

2006-08-08 09:16:51
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6841|London, England
From sniping on wake i've found out that the M95 has the same-ish drop as the M24. It's not that bad. The L96 has the most drop judging on how far up i have to aim to hit people. Try it yourself, when sniping from or at the arty island on wake. Use the M24/M95/L96 and you'll notice differences. Even (for me) bullet travel time. For me the M24 feels like a rail gun whilst the others feel like the bullets float to the target.

Summing things up, the M95 has the least and the L96 has the most. Not sure about the SVD/Type 88. The scope zoom isn't that good. But there is bullet drop on those too. I think for the Type 88 it's roughly the same has the L96. The bullet drop goes into much more detail, i can't be bothered to explain for each gun. Get some expert super-long range sniper to do that for you.
2006-08-08 09:36:32
dont_be_ss
Member
+312|6814|selby, n. yorkshire, UK

Jemme101 wrote:

Lots of misinformation in this thread.

Stats on both Rifles can be found here --> Weapon-Chart 1.22 <--, made by Black_Duck_1. Original TotalBF2 thread

To sum it up; the M95 does more damage and has less accuracy, the L96A1 does less damage and has an higher accuracy.

BULLETDROP IS THE SAME FOR ALL WEAPONS IN THE GAME

This has allready been confirmed 7 months ago by the people at DICE

It was discussed ages ago on the Total BF2 forums. It began when somebody did tests on bulletdrop on Gulf of Oman and the thread got a lot of peeps replying to it. I think the OP finaly came into contact with somebody at DICE which confirmed the bulletdrop ingame. I found the thread --> Bulletdrop Thread - Total BF2 Forums.

I found the original interview Total BF2-Armando Marini
Scroll down for the part on bulletdrop.

Results after testing were as follows ...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~thoorens/bf2/bulletdroptravel.jpg

Testing again was done by Black_Duck_1.

The results were measured in a level firing field. Ingame you will have to compensate for being either on an higher or lower elevation than your targets position.
that chart wont work properly if the enemy is on top of a hill and your at sea level will it?
2006-08-08 09:42:16
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6847|Warlord

bennisboy wrote:

I want the L96!!! I'm too cheap to buy SF tho
Any friends with SF? Or a cyber cafe that you can get to that has it running?

BTW, hope the bullet-drop thing is now clear, couldn't follow up in the other thread as it got locked.


Mekstizzle wrote:

From sniping on wake i've found out that the M95 has the same-ish drop as the M24. It's not that bad. The L96 has the most drop judging on how far up i have to aim to hit people.... Summing things up, the M95 has the least and the L96 has the most. Not sure about the SVD/Type 88.
They're the same!! Read the post from Jemme on the first page, it's been confirmed. Velocity is the only thing that affects bullet drop in the game and velocity for all sniper-rifle bullets is the same, ergo all drop at the same rate due to gravity.

What throws off the judgement mostly is the differences in the scopes; is the exact centre of the three-pixel-deep horizontal reticle of the M95 where it's aiming point is? Or is it the bottom; somewhere else? Once you get an instinctive/subconscious feel for this that's when you're good with the M95 I think.

We need to bear in mind deviation also, while this can make the shot miss off to one side or above it can just as easily make the bullet drop.


dont_be_ss wrote:

that chart wont work properly if the enemy is on top of a hill and your at sea level will it?
Bottom of Jemme's post:

Jemme101 wrote:

The results were measured in a level firing field. Ingame you will have to compensate for being either on an higher or lower elevation than your targets position.
2006-08-08 09:58:44
maestrium
Member
+13|6705|Arizona

I.M.I Militant wrote:

omfg how many times do i have to vtell u .. THE M95 HAS LESS FUKEN BULLET DROP u need to fucken realise that
lol, funniest thing I've heard all day.
2006-08-08 10:07:43
Jemme101
M24 Abuser
+99|6720|Valley of the Dragons

maestrium wrote:

I.M.I Militant wrote:

omfg how many times do i have to vtell u .. THE M95 HAS LESS FUKEN BULLET DROP u need to fucken realise that
lol, funniest thing I've heard all day.
Or read , but guys like him will allways live in denial on various topics

@Todd, txs m8 +1 to you
2006-08-08 10:09:35
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6916|Germany

Todd_Angelo wrote:

What throws off the judgement mostly is the differences in the scopes; is the exact centre of the three-pixel-deep horizontal reticle of the M95 where it's aiming point is? Or is it the bottom; somewhere else? Once you get an instinctive/subconscious feel for this that's when you're good with the M95 I think.
Yup,that's it.
I used to choose the M95 all the time to take out choppers and really found the sweet spot(it varies,so shouldn't it be sweet drop? ),long range headshots from a prone position were easy.
Then I used the L96 all the time,headshotmachine if you know the drop.
Now I'm confused when I try to use the M95 and only begin to hit stuff after two rounds of practice,but never get so good the way I used to be during my chopper hunting period.
2006-08-08 11:27:39
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6768|San Diego, CA, USA

aardfrith wrote:

ChyneseGUY wrote:

is the M95 affected less by bullet drop then the L96A1? Other then that is there any other advantages other then piercing bulletproof glass that the M95 would have over the L96A1, or is the M95 just shit cause im considering whether i should unlock it over the DAO-12 so i can get my basic engineer badge. thanks in advance.
Best way of getting the basic engineer badge is to drive an armoured vehicle - tank or apc - and kill infantry.  What I'm working on now is getting the 40 kills for expert before the round finishes, without spawnraping.
Actually, the easiest is to be commander.
2006-08-08 13:44:10
Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6786|England

Only sniper I like is the M95. Ive used the L96 a fair amount since I unlocked it and just find it more innaccurate and weedy compared to the M95.
Also, the M95 seems to be my "kill assist machine" - indicating hits. I never get that with the L96

End of the day, its what weapon you like. Most medics like the 36E or AK101...for me, its straight L85A1. Its what weapon YOU feel comfortable in using and what YOU can get lots of kills with.

Last edited by Snake (2006-08-08 13:45:10)

2006-08-08 13:47:16
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6866

Jemme101 wrote:

Lots of misinformation in this thread.

Stats on both Rifles can be found here --> Weapon-Chart 1.22 <--, made by Black_Duck_1. Original TotalBF2 thread

To sum it up; the M95 does more damage and has less accuracy, the L96A1 does less damage and has an higher accuracy.

BULLETDROP IS THE SAME FOR ALL WEAPONS IN THE GAME

This has allready been confirmed 7 months ago by the people at DICE

It was discussed ages ago on the Total BF2 forums. It began when somebody did tests on bulletdrop on Gulf of Oman and the thread got a lot of peeps replying to it. I think the OP finaly came into contact with somebody at DICE which confirmed the bulletdrop ingame. I found the thread --> Bulletdrop Thread - Total BF2 Forums.

I found the original interview Total BF2-Armando Marini
Scroll down for the part on bulletdrop.

Results after testing were as follows ...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~thoorens/bf2/bulletdroptravel.jpg

Testing again was done by Black_Duck_1.

The results were measured in a level firing field. Ingame you will have to compensate for being either on an higher or lower elevation than your targets position.
I love how in all of these threads there is a single voice of reason, yet everyone totally ignores it and continues to argue contrary to facts.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-08-08 13:48:13)

2006-08-08 13:54:47
xX[Elangbam]Xx
Member
+107|6917

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Jemme101 wrote:

Lots of misinformation in this thread.

Stats on both Rifles can be found here --> Weapon-Chart 1.22 <--, made by Black_Duck_1. Original TotalBF2 thread

To sum it up; the M95 does more damage and has less accuracy, the L96A1 does less damage and has an higher accuracy.

BULLETDROP IS THE SAME FOR ALL WEAPONS IN THE GAME

This has allready been confirmed 7 months ago by the people at DICE

It was discussed ages ago on the Total BF2 forums. It began when somebody did tests on bulletdrop on Gulf of Oman and the thread got a lot of peeps replying to it. I think the OP finaly came into contact with somebody at DICE which confirmed the bulletdrop ingame. I found the thread --> Bulletdrop Thread - Total BF2 Forums.

I found the original interview Total BF2-Armando Marini
Scroll down for the part on bulletdrop.

Results after testing were as follows ...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~thoorens/bf2/bulletdroptravel.jpg

Testing again was done by Black_Duck_1.

The results were measured in a level firing field. Ingame you will have to compensate for being either on an higher or lower elevation than your targets position.
I love how in all of these threads there is a single voice of reason, yet everyone totally ignores it and continues to argue contrary to facts.
He may be right that the M95 does more damage? but by what? one more bar comapared to two? ooooo hes still dead via pistol
2006-08-08 15:15:13
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6911|Devon, England
dont forget, the m95 has a bigger bullet, any target in the center of the "fat ass" scope will be hit.

iv started using the m95 alot lately, and its gr8.
2006-08-08 15:17:43
Brasso
member
+1,549|6850

stryyker wrote:

more bullet drop on the M95.

the only advantage it has is sounding badass.
you are a fucking idiot.  the M95 has less bullet drop.  however the L96 is very good if you know how to estimate bullet drop.
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2006-08-08 23:30:47
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6847|Warlord

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

I love how in all of these threads there is a single voice of reason, yet everyone totally ignores it and continues to argue contrary to facts.
I love how you've completely missed the other people being reasonable, right in the same thread


xX[Elangbam]Xx wrote:

He may be right that the M95 does more damage? but by what? one more bar comapared to two? ooooo hes still dead via pistol
M95's standard damage is any class down to 2 bars (see my post above about the exceptions). For the M24 and L96A1 it's down to 40%ish (can't remember offhand if that's the exact amount) for armoured classes and down to two bars also for the unarmoured classes. You really notice the difference if you're in the habit of switching to the pistol and using it to finish people off as it'll only take one shot for a spec ops guy for instance but more than that for someone playing support; that can make all the difference between coming out alive if the support player is good and on his toes.

I'm in the habit of always using a double- or triple-tap with the pistol, just in case I miss one, or the hit with the rifle bullet didn't do what it's supposed to.


haffeysucks wrote:

stryyker wrote:

more bullet drop on the M95.

the only advantage it has is sounding badass.
you are a fucking idiot.  the M95 has less bullet drop.  however the L96 is very good if you know how to estimate bullet drop.
Did you read any other parts of this thread? Geez dude
2006-08-09 19:44:57
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6866

haffeysucks wrote:

stryyker wrote:

more bullet drop on the M95.

the only advantage it has is sounding badass.
you are a fucking idiot.  the M95 has less bullet drop.  however the L96 is very good if you know how to estimate bullet drop.
Am I the only one overwhelmed by the irony here? You're both fucking idiots, and you're both wrong.

Jemme101 wrote:

Lots of misinformation in this thread.

Stats on both Rifles can be found here --> Weapon-Chart 1.22 <--, made by Black_Duck_1. Original TotalBF2 thread

To sum it up; the M95 does more damage and has less accuracy, the L96A1 does less damage and has an higher accuracy.

BULLETDROP IS THE SAME FOR ALL WEAPONS IN THE GAME

This has allready been confirmed 7 months ago by the people at DICE

It was discussed ages ago on the Total BF2 forums. It began when somebody did tests on bulletdrop on Gulf of Oman and the thread got a lot of peeps replying to it. I think the OP finaly came into contact with somebody at DICE which confirmed the bulletdrop ingame. I found the thread --> Bulletdrop Thread - Total BF2 Forums.

I found the original interview Total BF2-Armando Marini
Scroll down for the part on bulletdrop.

Results after testing were as follows ...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~thoorens/bf2/bulletdroptravel.jpg

Testing again was done by Black_Duck_1.

The results were measured in a level firing field. Ingame you will have to compensate for being either on an higher or lower elevation than your targets position.
2006-08-09 19:49:08
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6706|Melbourne

Pffft. M24 SWS - FTW!!!!!
~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
2006-08-09 19:50:38
AK5489
Member
+16|6727|US
i rarely bother with the m95 or l96a1 when sniping, i prefer the m24

Last edited by AK5489 (2006-08-09 19:50:50)

2006-08-09 19:56:13
HCSkorpio
Hind Secks
+8|6756|California
Yeah I would choose M24,  but my M24 shots absolutely refuses to connect to the target in my crosshairs.  So I use the M95 or the SVD.  I dont like using the L96A1 cause it seems to be everyones favorite sniper rifle.
2006-09-26 18:05:22
R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6706|Melbourne

Check out Todds post on Bullet Drop, it explains it all (its linked in his sig)

Last edited by R3v4n (2006-09-26 18:05:40)

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