BF2S Forums Top Ranked Player Missing Something

magzy wrote:

this has been talked about and talked about in other threads, you should say it in one of them, instead of starting a new thread. im getting sick of hearing bout Blazin's lack of badges. If he has 3.8SPM (or wwatever it was) and has played that much, he deserves top rank imo.

Yeah I agree.  And not for nothing but the game ranking system DOES have requirements for higher ranks.  A First Sarge outranks a Master Sarge and a FIrst Sarge requires all basic combat badges.

I think he ment sargent major of the corps. should have a badge requirement . i definatly only one person at a time can hold this possition so it should be the best all around player not just the best point farmer (not complaning about point farmers)

ICUDIENOW wrote:

As far as the officer thing hes about to be a 2ndLt. so what now hot stuff???

That is where a command badge requirement should come into play. In that role, I don't think any other badges matter but command. Do any of us really know what the 2ndLt requirements are? UBAR states only that you need a Master Gunnery Sergeant and 200,000 points. Do we know that for sure? I sure hope a command requirement is part of the criteria...

dsb wrote:

ICUDIENOW wrote:

I could careless if it has already been talked about I want to talk about it now. As far as the officer thing hes about to be a 2ndLt. so what now hot stuff??? Saying that they have requierments like having all your basic combat badges I could get all of them in one weekend if I wanted to!!!!!!!! This games point system is good Im just saying they need to recognize overall skill when you get that high up in the rankings because he could have taken a few days out of his point farming schedule and learned to play the whole game and not just run around and revive people.  There is alot to this game and having that many points represents that he knows the entire game but he doesn't. Look at any of the other top players they all have all the badges any of the 2,3,4 players should have that rank of SMoC instead of him. hes just a guy that runs around with his paddles and shocks the hell out of people!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do you figure that having that many points represents knowing the whole game?  And how do you know how much of the game he doesn't know?  He DOES have all his Basic Combat badges (Command is not a combat badge) and some VET ones as well.

Is this your stat page?  Should we consider you good b/c your K: D ratio is above 1?  But your accuracy is crap and your W/L ratio is under 1, so maybe you're not so good after all...Blazin's is 1+ so maybe that makes him more valuable to a team...does that make him good?

My point is that "good" is too subjective to have that kind of requirement.   Blazin is good enough to have a 3.87 SPM which is far better than you or I...I suppose there could be a player rating which takes a weighted average of a bunch of different stats and ratio like an NFL quarterback's QB rating but that means that a whole bunch of people need to begin to decide what statistics are more important than others which again raises the issue of subjectiveness.  Not to mention that some tool with 8 accounts and knows how to play the game could jump into a brandy new account, hop in a tank, get some crazy stats and affect ranking...should he be awarded for finally having good stats on his 8th acocunt?  Global points are ultimately the best way to measure player rankings.

Word!  What he said!  Oh, and for what it's worth, Mugsy was just trying to get you to adhere to forum policy and not repost tired subjects.  You could still "talk about it now" by adding a comment to a previous post.  I'm not attacking you, just restating what's been stated many many times before.

I say that he deserves his rank. He WORKED hard for it, I couldn't spare as much of my valuable time just for accumulating an exorbitant nummber of (IRL) worthless credits. He is No1 in points and the ladder is about points - so he deserves it (given he didn't do it by stats padding, but it he did ruined his game experince, his harm not mine).

On the topic of "has to have al basic badges to move up in rank.."-thing: Maybe you should have a number of basic/veteran badges BUT not necesserilly ALL of them. It shows experience, thats good. Gives you special ranks (like thet Master Sergeant/First Sergeant), it's fine with me! But as a requirement? You should be able to build a specialist character - the one who serves your regular squad best (I, for example, am my squads designated medic/AT). Just for fun i had a go at the other classes (their basic badges as well) but got back to medic cause I am most usefull at that. I think that the basic pistol and knife badges shouldn't be requirements (it is quite unhandy to have somebody in your squad who is into knifing all opponents for the badges sake - gives me a lot of opportunites to revive though).  Pistol i got the honset way as sniper in self defence, but knife? The only way would be getting it the stats padding way, on one of those strange pistol/knife only server , running around like mad or by sheer luck (unlikely).
When approaching 20000 maybe (if that ever happens) i will give it a try again, but until that time my medic uses the knife only to cut bread  :-)

Last edited by pogled (2005-11-05 12:59:46)