jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

fadedsteve wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:


Honor our citizens rights ABSOLUTELY!!

But I will not honor some terrorists right AT ALL!!! They are not American civilians, therefore DO NOT deserve the American justice system.  They deserve a MILITARY JUSTICE system that deals with them for what they really are, and thats A TERRORIST!!!
Um, they arent terrorists UNTIL OUR AMERICAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM CONVICTS THEM OF IT. DIPSHIT.
NO THEY ARE TERRORISTS!! Its assholes like you who give them sympathy/benefit of the doubt, when they DESERVE NONE!! They are enemies of this country, NUFF SAID!! Military tribunal and be done with it!!
I think you're a terrorist. Trying to imprison innocent Americans! You, sir, hate freedom! Someone call the men in government suits to lock him away!

Your argument is so inane.
ST19AG_WGreymon
Member
+5|6983|Clinton, MD, USA
What is gitmo?
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6925|Canada

lowing wrote:

Spumantiii wrote:

would you approve of, based on that logic, of a 2 million man detention camp built in Alaska?

Forgive me for this link, but it is interesting.
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/p … litics.htm
These people and this religion are completely against US morality and social values, I have shown links where they intend to enforce their beliefs and their will on the west,. THERE OWN WORDS. Muslims are fighting all over the world. They had a world wide riot to protest the worlds right to free press. Iran comes out and openly claims they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and kill all the Jews and ANYONE that supports them. Now really, what more can anyone show you that will convince you this war needs to be won?

Better yet, show me the proof that convinces you all that the Muslims want to live in peace EVEN IF Israel is destroyed. One link that proves they will leave the rest of the world alone and be part of the global economy in trade and tourism...........ONE LINK. What convinces you all of there is a "peace loving" Muslim world out there??
It's in Alaska dude...   I'm talking about North Americans not Muslims
jonsimon
Member
+224|6738

ST19AG_WGreymon wrote:

What is gitmo?
Guantanamo Bay. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitmo

Or more specifically in the context of the topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo … nment_camp

Last edited by jonsimon (2006-08-07 20:16:38)

CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6812|Portland, OR, USA
see, you see these people as animals whos only goal in life is to kill americans

that may be true but you dont take a fucking step back to see that WE are the reason they want to kill us, or i guess our government, foriegn policy, etc..etc..

they probably wouldnt hate us so much if our polititions werent such ignorant douche bags that feel the need to police the world.

but now that we've dug a hole deep enough to bury ourselves in theres really no going back
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6792|Southeastern USA
wiki is ass, if you wanna see real humanitarian crimes look up Castro's own max prison right across the bay from gitmo
Phrozenbot
Member
+632|6858|do not disturb

kr@cker wrote:

wiki is ass, if you wanna see real humanitarian crimes look up Castro's own max prison right across the bay from gitmo
If we really wanted to liberate a nation from a dictator, Cuba would have been the most logical.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6894|USA

CommieChipmunk wrote:

see, you see these people as animals whos only goal in life is to kill americans

that may be true but you dont take a fucking step back to see that WE are the reason they want to kill us, or i guess our government, foriegn policy, etc..etc..

they probably wouldnt hate us so much if our polititions werent such ignorant douche bags that feel the need to police the world.

but now that we've dug a hole deep enough to bury ourselves in theres really no going back
ok great, Bush is the reason they want to kill us. Would you mind explaining the other 4750 years of this bullshit??
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6894|USA

Spumantiii wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spumantiii wrote:

would you approve of, based on that logic, of a 2 million man detention camp built in Alaska?

Forgive me for this link, but it is interesting.
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/p … litics.htm
These people and this religion are completely against US morality and social values, I have shown links where they intend to enforce their beliefs and their will on the west,. THERE OWN WORDS. Muslims are fighting all over the world. They had a world wide riot to protest the worlds right to free press. Iran comes out and openly claims they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and kill all the Jews and ANYONE that supports them. Now really, what more can anyone show you that will convince you this war needs to be won?

Better yet, show me the proof that convinces you all that the Muslims want to live in peace EVEN IF Israel is destroyed. One link that proves they will leave the rest of the world alone and be part of the global economy in trade and tourism...........ONE LINK. What convinces you all of there is a "peace loving" Muslim world out there??
It's in Alaska dude...   I'm talking about North Americans not Muslims
oh god....gimme a break....even if this place existed, I seriously they are gunna alow some dipshit blogger run around it with a camera,
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6733|Menlo Park, CA

jonsimon wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

jonsimon wrote:


Um, they arent terrorists UNTIL OUR AMERICAN JUDICIAL SYSTEM CONVICTS THEM OF IT. DIPSHIT.
NO THEY ARE TERRORISTS!! Its assholes like you who give them sympathy/benefit of the doubt, when they DESERVE NONE!! They are enemies of this country, NUFF SAID!! Military tribunal and be done with it!!
I think you're a terrorist. Trying to imprison innocent Americans! You, sir, hate freedom! Someone call the men in government suits to lock him away!

Your argument is so inane.
WHAT??

THEY ARENT FUCKING AMERICANS YOU FUCKING LIBERAL TWIT!!!

They are combatants from the battlefield!! They arent citizens therefore DONT enjoy the same rights as we do!! What dont you get about that??

I love freedom, and I would fight to defend it!
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6812|Portland, OR, USA

lowing wrote:

CommieChipmunk wrote:

see, you see these people as animals whos only goal in life is to kill americans

that may be true but you dont take a fucking step back to see that WE are the reason they want to kill us, or i guess our government, foriegn policy, etc..etc..

they probably wouldnt hate us so much if our polititions werent such ignorant douche bags that feel the need to police the world.

but now that we've dug a hole deep enough to bury ourselves in theres really no going back
ok great, Bush is the reason they want to kill us. Would you mind explaining the other 4750 years of this bullshit??
this administration and ones prior, if we wouldn't have fucked around in there then they could have just kept on killing themselves and it would have been a perfect world
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America
All decent Americans should stand by the camp at Gitmo. Your fellow countrymen and women are out in the battlefield dying for your freeedom and all you liberals (communists) can do is whine about the poor prisoners at Gitmo. Those animals incarcerated at Gitmo should be hanged. Their usefulness is dubious now so I say hang em.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804

fadedsteve wrote:

Honor our citizens rights ABSOLUTELY!!

But I will not honor some terrorists right AT ALL!!! They are not American civilians, therefore DO NOT deserve the American justice system.  They deserve a MILITARY JUSTICE system that deals with them for what they really are, and thats A TERRORIST!!!
Whether or not terrorists deserve military justice is irrelevant.  The issue he is that they have not been proven to be terrorists.
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

Bubbalo wrote:

fadedsteve wrote:

Honor our citizens rights ABSOLUTELY!!

But I will not honor some terrorists right AT ALL!!! They are not American civilians, therefore DO NOT deserve the American justice system.  They deserve a MILITARY JUSTICE system that deals with them for what they really are, and thats A TERRORIST!!!
Whether or not terrorists deserve military justice is irrelevant.  The issue he is that they have not been proven to be terrorists.
Looks like we've got a terrorist sympathiser on our hands.
aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7035

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

All decent Americans should stand by the camp at Gitmo. Your fellow countrymen and women are out in the battlefield dying for your freeedom and all you liberals (communists) can do is whine about the poor prisoners at Gitmo. Those animals incarcerated at Gitmo should be hanged. Their usefulness is dubious now so I say hang em.
In what way are American troops in Iraq fighting for the freedom of home-grown American kids and their families?  That's a new one to me.  I've heard it as fighting for the freedom of Iraqis, fighting against a threat to neighbouring countries, fighting because someone broke a few UN resolutions but in what way was Iraq threatening the USA?

As far as I can tell, your fellow countrymen and women are out in the battlefield, dying for George Bush's ego.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Looks like we've got a terrorist sympathiser on our hands.
So, wanting to make sure we only punish terrorists means I sympathise with them?

EDIT:  Why are we even bothering to respond to this guy?  I says we're wrong because we're dirty Liberals, and that all Liberals are Communists?  There are at least two things wrong with that last bit.

Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-08-08 05:31:23)

CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

Bubbalo wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Looks like we've got a terrorist sympathiser on our hands.
So, wanting to make sure we only punish terrorists means I sympathise with them?
Well you seem more concerned with the terrorists wellbeing than with those being terrorised.
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

aardfrith wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

All decent Americans should stand by the camp at Gitmo. Your fellow countrymen and women are out in the battlefield dying for your freeedom and all you liberals (communists) can do is whine about the poor prisoners at Gitmo. Those animals incarcerated at Gitmo should be hanged. Their usefulness is dubious now so I say hang em.
In what way are American troops in Iraq fighting for the freedom of home-grown American kids and their families?  That's a new one to me.  I've heard it as fighting for the freedom of Iraqis, fighting against a threat to neighbouring countries, fighting because someone broke a few UN resolutions but in what way was Iraq threatening the USA?

As far as I can tell, your fellow countrymen and women are out in the battlefield, dying for George Bush's ego.
We are fighting for a safer, more prosperous world. By taking care of failed states and dictatorial regimes we are making sure that the mistakes of the past - appeasement of bloodthristy despots - will never grow to threaten our freedom at any time in the future.

Last edited by CyrusTheVirus (2006-08-08 05:39:09)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Well you seem more concerned with the terrorists wellbeing than with those being terrorised.
What part of "We can discuss how to punish terrorists later, for now let's prove who they are" do you not understand?
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

Bubbalo wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Well you seem more concerned with the terrorists wellbeing than with those being terrorised.
What part of "We can discuss how to punish terrorists later, for now let's prove who they are" do you not understand?
I think the CIA have done their homework at this stage. They've released the innocent ones and what we're left with in Gitmo are the animal scum whose brethren killed 3000 people on 9/11.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804
If they have, why don't they prove it in a court of law?
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6772|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Well you seem more concerned with the terrorists wellbeing than with those being terrorised.
What part of "We can discuss how to punish terrorists later, for now let's prove who they are" do you not understand?
I think the CIA have done their homework at this stage. They've released the innocent ones and what we're left with in Gitmo are the animal scum whose brethren killed 3000 people on 9/11.
No, they've released the ones whose home nations have said "oi, we want our citizens".

The part they put innocents in Gitmo in the first place without trial is totally undermining one of the best parts of American liberty and democracy.
CyrusTheVirus
E PLURIBUS UNUM
+36|6716|United States of America

TeamZephyr wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

What part of "We can discuss how to punish terrorists later, for now let's prove who they are" do you not understand?
I think the CIA have done their homework at this stage. They've released the innocent ones and what we're left with in Gitmo are the animal scum whose brethren killed 3000 people on 9/11.
No, they've released the ones whose home nations have said "oi, we want our citizens".

The part they put innocents in Gitmo in the first place without trial is totally undermining one of the best parts of American liberty and democracy.
Why should terrorists or potential terrorists be afforded the American liberty and democracy my ancestors fought so hard to secure? We shouldn't take chances when American lives are at stake.

Last edited by CyrusTheVirus (2006-08-08 05:55:02)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6804
Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't.  That's not the issue.  The issue is whether they are, in fact, terrorists.
EVieira
Member
+105|6721|Lutenblaag, Molvania

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Well you seem more concerned with the terrorists wellbeing than with those being terrorised.
What part of "We can discuss how to punish terrorists later, for now let's prove who they are" do you not understand?
I think the CIA have done their homework at this stage. They've released the innocent ones and what we're left with in Gitmo are the animal scum whose brethren killed 3000 people on 9/11.
Then let the CIA show that homework to all of us and shut the world up. What you don't get is that GTMO makes all of US look like hypocrites. You say your are champions of freedom, ready to die unselfishly for it. But you reserve the dictatorial power to deny that freedom to anyone you wish. That is what is not right, and it is entirely against your very own constitution.

What also is terribly wrong is how americans like CyrusTheVirus (a very adequate name, btw) are ready to point a finger at other americans and call them LIBERALS! COMMIES! What ever happened to democracy in this country? Whatever happened to people being able to express their opinions without being labeled an anti-american? Its truly a virus that seems to be spreading, destroying what I have always admired in the US: the way people were proud of their freedom of speech.

Last edited by EVieira (2006-08-08 05:57:40)

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