VeNg3nCe^
¦Tactics Øver Principles¦
+314|6960|Antarctica
I would LOVE to see DICE Canada make their own game, it would prob be so imbalanced/buggy and turn out to be a major disaster if they can't even patch BF2 correctly.
tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|6912| United States of America

Snake wrote:

Unless im mistaken, didnt beta testing for 1.4 start on 7th May? Thats 2 months and 1.4 still isnt released. They cant be assed to spend a few weeks "retuning the J10 or F35" to make the game more balanced? Yet they can spend a few months making an entire new map...
How can it be made more lethal? Taking away half of its afterburner is not going to make it more deadly. Making its turning angles a lot wider is not going to make it more lethal.
That is the biggest pile of shit I have ever read.

Im sorry, but that is both fucking lazy and a sign of bad time management.
I work in an office, and if anyone where I work had those qualities, they'd be fired before you can say "DICE sucks"
DICE sucks!........... am i fired?
Delphy
Member
+45|6839|Bristol, UK

Shem wrote:

J-10s can be very easy to kill, you just have to encounter them first.

You just have to get as close to its arse as possible, and make sure you dont have air to air missile so it doesnt know your there, once you are literally right behind it, switch to your air to air, and throw 3 - 4 missile straight into it.

Job done.
They will ALL miss.
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
+154|6881|Canada
BF2 player: we want drastic changes for the F35b!!!!
EA/Dice: we would, trus us...but that means we hafta TURN ON our computers....and its my coffee break, so maybe next time kthnxby!


basically...
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6935|Disaster Free Zone

usmarine2005 wrote:

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

Man, I should work at EA, I would fit in pretty good....because Im just as lazy as they are.
Say it with me..................

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Say this with me. EA owns DICE.
MastersMom
YOUR mom goes to college
+61|6909

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Leave the J-10 as it is,that teaches the US guys on Wake to actually work for their win.

If everybody justs keeps standing on the carrier and try to get a jet or chopper - no wonder you get bombed to hell.Sure,the J-10 is very difficult to hit with air-to-air missiles,but it's not invincible.
Have you ever played on the USMC side of Wake???

The only way I''ve found to consistantly get to the island without dying is jump in an f-35, fly straight for the airfield and bail.  ---->  F-35 = 1 man transport.

If you actually try to do anything in the 35 the j-10s take you out, blackhawk's and boats are facing enemy attack chopper and j-10, along with favs and tanks at the tips of the island.  Attack chopper is facing attack chopper and tanks and favs.

On top of that, having the j-10s base raping the carrier keep most of the vehicles from taking off in the first place and leave no deffense with the Essex.

But your right...those dumb guys on the carrier (only spawn point available) deserve to get spammed.
0akleaves
Member
+183|6867|Newcastle UK
Wake is easy to win if you have 6 or more players who are in ts or are ready to spwan on the 35b if it hits airfield as the correct kit. All you need os a couple of at and a couple of medics and a sorta safe sl.
You have to learn the rules of the game and then you have to play better than anyone else.
MorbidFetus
Member
+76|6805|Ohio
They shouldnt nerf the J10.

They should de-gimp the F-35.
Snipedya14
Dont tread on me
+77|6949|Mountains of West Virginia

MorbidFetus wrote:

They shouldnt nerf the J10.

They should de-gimp the F-35.
QFE
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7063|Marathon, Florida Keys
looks like all the deck washing smurfs on the carrier are going to go cry now-- owned

j10 leetness ftw
https://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g117/patton1337/stats.jpg
Cobra4545
Jizz in my pants
+54|6733|Vancouver, USA

Snake wrote:

Unless im mistaken, didnt beta testing for 1.4 start on 7th May? Thats 2 months and 1.4 still isnt released. They cant be assed to spend a few weeks "retuning the J10 or F35" to make the game more balanced? Yet they can spend a few months making an entire new map...
How can it be made more lethal? Taking away half of its afterburner is not going to make it more deadly. Making its turning angles a lot wider is not going to make it more lethal.
That is the biggest pile of shit I have ever read.

Im sorry, but that is both fucking lazy and a sign of bad time management.
I work in an office, and if anyone where I work had those qualities, they'd be fired before you can say "DICE sucks"
Dude, you read my mind.  They have been testing the dam 1.4 for months and they still haven't perfected the dam the thing.  They need to stop worrying about Jalalalalabad and just get the patch out.  +1 for you.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6881|Warlord
Jesus H. Christ, how the hell can they justify this? Surely this is BS... it can't seriously take that long to tweak the flight characteristics of something upwards or downwards since guys do it at home without working with a team of other programmers.

And would they goddamn hurry the patch up already, we're dying out here! I've had nearly six times more CTDs recently than losses FFS.
MorbidFetus
Member
+76|6805|Ohio

Snipedya14 wrote:

MorbidFetus wrote:

They shouldnt nerf the J10.

They should de-gimp the F-35.
QFE
I dont know what QFE stands for but all they gotta do is give the F-35 some of it's stealth properties (since it's a fucking stealth!!). Make it so missiles have a much harder time locking on and bingo! Problem solved!!
xintegrityx
set your body ablaze
+37|6983|Louisiana

MastersMom wrote:

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Leave the J-10 as it is,that teaches the US guys on Wake to actually work for their win.

If everybody justs keeps standing on the carrier and try to get a jet or chopper - no wonder you get bombed to hell.Sure,the J-10 is very difficult to hit with air-to-air missiles,but it's not invincible.
Have you ever played on the USMC side of Wake???

The only way I''ve found to consistantly get to the island without dying is jump in an f-35, fly straight for the airfield and bail.  ---->  F-35 = 1 man transport.

If you actually try to do anything in the 35 the j-10s take you out, blackhawk's and boats are facing enemy attack chopper and j-10, along with favs and tanks at the tips of the island.  Attack chopper is facing attack chopper and tanks and favs.

On top of that, having the j-10s base raping the carrier keep most of the vehicles from taking off in the first place and leave no deffense with the Essex.

But your right...those dumb guys on the carrier (only spawn point available) deserve to get spammed.
I completely agree with you on everything except the last sentence - the US can also spawn on the arty island, but that's sometimes even more of a death trap than the Essex
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6881|Warlord
QFE= Quoted For Emphasis.

MorbidFetus wrote:

...but all they gotta do is give the F-35 some of it's stealth properties (since it's a fucking stealth!!). Make it so missiles have a much harder time locking on and bingo! Problem solved!!
Yeah, like that would be difficult. And they wouldn't have to strain their backs actually doing some work on the flight characteristics. I don't know how to program but I'd imagine this would involve just changing a number in a file pretty much.
LT.Victim
Member
+1,175|6817|British Columbia, Canada

lt-grumpy wrote:

Damn, knew i should have bought more shares in the Wake Suntan Oil company..
MorbidFetus
Member
+76|6805|Ohio
Taking the Blackhawk around to the far left low and fast works 9 times out of 10. The jets are usually busy strafing the carrier or in the middile of the map for the first few minutes. And if you get shot down try going high or to the right.

Nine times out of 10 I will cap the Airfield and 9 times out of 10 my team will not spawn and I'll end up back on the carrier smack dab in the middle of a rape fest.
Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6907
goodbye aviators, hello talentless whores.
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
dondon
Member
+3|6970
I swear, one of these days, I'm going to burn down DICE Canada's offices (I'm about 100 miles from them).

An F35 can't shoot down a J10 regularly. BF2 aerial combat is a game of chance, not skill. I get behind a noob J10 pilot and release all 6 of my missiles as he is flying straight, with no flares deployed, and only one of them hits. Do that with a J10 to an F35 and you'll be wasting missiles. I get what DICE is trying to do with the F35 (make it weaker because of the dual purpose engine), but they're going overboard. The F18 is a good plane, but it just gets raped by any semi-decent pilot in a J10. Spawning F35s on a carrier is also a very bad idea. Usually the PLA has some sort of cover for their jets (like on Dalian and DValley), preventing attacks from the side, and sometimes the back. The F35 never has cover on any map, even Zatar 32, where they spawn next to hangars! Factor in the assholes who stand in front of planes forcing a vertical take off, and you can see how hard it is to even engage a J10.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7016

dondon wrote:

I swear, one of these days, I'm going to burn down DICE Canada's offices (I'm about 100 miles from them).
Over a video game?  The airplanes are so extremely far from having any sort of realistic flight characteristics, that any idiot can fly one with a little effort and practice.
MastersMom
YOUR mom goes to college
+61|6909

xintegrityx wrote:

MastersMom wrote:

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Leave the J-10 as it is,that teaches the US guys on Wake to actually work for their win.

If everybody justs keeps standing on the carrier and try to get a jet or chopper - no wonder you get bombed to hell.Sure,the J-10 is very difficult to hit with air-to-air missiles,but it's not invincible.
Have you ever played on the USMC side of Wake???

The only way I''ve found to consistantly get to the island without dying is jump in an f-35, fly straight for the airfield and bail.  ---->  F-35 = 1 man transport.

If you actually try to do anything in the 35 the j-10s take you out, blackhawk's and boats are facing enemy attack chopper and j-10, along with favs and tanks at the tips of the island.  Attack chopper is facing attack chopper and tanks and favs.

On top of that, having the j-10s base raping the carrier keep most of the vehicles from taking off in the first place and leave no deffense with the Essex.

But your right...those dumb guys on the carrier (only spawn point available) deserve to get spammed.
I completely agree with you on everything except the last sentence - the US can also spawn on the arty island, but that's sometimes even more of a death trap than the Essex
I never spawn on arty island for two reasons:
1. I know if I'm chinese, that's one of the best places to go to get cheap easy kills with the attack chopper.  Destroy the aa and boats and it's just a bunch of lemmings respawning for target practice.  Not to mention the snipers on the tips of the island.
2. The only escape is boats getting nailed by tanks and FAVs before they start moving.

So yes, I stand corrected that there is more than one spawn point available...three actually (carrier flight deck, .  But your still left with pretty crappy options.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7083

Shem wrote:

J-10s can be very easy to kill, you just have to encounter them first.

You just have to get as close to its arse as possible, and make sure you dont have air to air missile so it doesnt know your there, once you are literally right behind it, switch to your air to air, and throw 3 - 4 missile straight into it.

Job done.
Any good pilot is always switching views to check their six. Only noob J-10 pilots are consistently shot down by the F35. F18 does pretty well though.
ZCor3x
Member
+46|6824|Pennsylvania

ThomasMorgan wrote:

Good.  Means I get to work on my tan more while I'm PLA on Wake.
Hell yeah. TANNING FTW
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6935|Disaster Free Zone

MastersMom wrote:

xintegrityx wrote:

MastersMom wrote:


Have you ever played on the USMC side of Wake???

The only way I''ve found to consistantly get to the island without dying is jump in an f-35, fly straight for the airfield and bail.  ---->  F-35 = 1 man transport.

If you actually try to do anything in the 35 the j-10s take you out, blackhawk's and boats are facing enemy attack chopper and j-10, along with favs and tanks at the tips of the island.  Attack chopper is facing attack chopper and tanks and favs.

On top of that, having the j-10s base raping the carrier keep most of the vehicles from taking off in the first place and leave no deffense with the Essex.

But your right...those dumb guys on the carrier (only spawn point available) deserve to get spammed.
I completely agree with you on everything except the last sentence - the US can also spawn on the arty island, but that's sometimes even more of a death trap than the Essex
I never spawn on arty island for two reasons:
1. I know if I'm chinese, that's one of the best places to go to get cheap easy kills with the attack chopper.  Destroy the aa and boats and it's just a bunch of lemmings respawning for target practice.  Not to mention the snipers on the tips of the island.
2. The only escape is boats getting nailed by tanks and FAVs before they start moving.

So yes, I stand corrected that there is more than one spawn point available...three actually (carrier flight deck, .  But your still left with pretty crappy options.
And isnt that the reason wake is just a shitty map??
USMC cant do much and have to be playing against a really bad PLA team to have a chance, and PLA people dont have anything to do unless your one of the 4 in j-10s or attack chopper. Why do people play it all the time its such a shit map, karkand is getting old but wake was always shit. Heres a thought go play somthing else instead of going joining on the 2/64 chance youll actually get to fly the j-10. There are pleanty of maps out there where the j-10 is not so game winning. OR play on a half empty server... 25-40 people, It just means PLA cant defend every bit of the island and USMC cant actually sneak behind them a nd capture a few flags making the game sort of interesting, only problem is you cant j-10 whore as much. If I'm playing wake It will usually be with less people and when the server fills up and i dont get a plane/chopper all i do is DC and find a decent map to play or just go watch TV. I dont see the point in wasting my time doing nothing on that shit map people call wake.
Defiance
Member
+438|6925

I believe they said that their going to fix the hitboxes, not change the J10, but pump up the F35.

So basically everyones happy, except the J10 pilots with no sense of defense.

Learn to dogfight and all will be well.

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