BF2S Forums I'm so sick of this crap

Canin wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/ … index.html

Scroll about half way down and see the numbers:

95 Israelis dead, only 35 of them civilians.
716 Lebanese dead, almost all civilians...

You do the math.

I don't know why they didn't put it in there, but I was watching CNN last night (or Saturday) and the reporter said something like 700 civilians had been killed.

That's almost a 100:1 ration civilians to Hezbollah.  Further proof that Israel is committing genocide.

So again I ask.....

   

Canin wrote:

I have a question. Everyone keeps talking about Lebanese civilian casualties, and how the Israeli Army is targeting civilians with arty and air strikes rather than using ground troops in conventional style warfare, but has anyone actually seen a Hezbollah Military uniform???? I've searched for some time, and I just cant seem to find a picture of one. So I am curious how the Israeli Army is supposed to differentiate between the civilians and Hezbollah when the are apparently dressed the same and the Hezbollah are using civilian areas as bases of operations????

You wont get an answer from anti-Israelis. Why? Because those are tough questions to answer. They'll try to find a link but it wont be a legitimate source. Thats why they wont answer your questions. They cant.

Last edited by rawls2 (2006-08-07 16:23:49)

Whats going to happen when the peace keepers arrive? What is going to happen when hezbollah fires on them?What are all you pro-hezzies going to say when the peace keepers kill civilian Lebanese when they return fire? Will they be committing genocide also?

kr@cker wrote:

again, why are yo blaming israel for the hezbollah practice of hiding behind civillian shields?

Because HM1{N} simply has no idea what he's talking about. He's running on pure emotion. "ZOMG ISREAL MURDERS CIVILIANS LIEK HITLER!111!!".

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

Exactly, they don't give a fuck...unless it benefits them.  That's why all their representative on T.V. quote Res. 1559 all the time now, it benefits them.  They absolutely refuse to abide by any resolution that does not further their Zionist agenda

Since you obviously have an extremely skewed perception of the situation, allow me to word this as eloquently as possible. Isreal is retaliating against terrorism. Lebanon harbors terrorists that attack Isreal. The alternative would be to sit back and do nothing, while their country gets routinely attacked by missiles and suicide bombers, and their citizens kidnapped. The entire region has been hostile towards Isreal throughout history, and just recently the president of Iran has proclaimed its annihilation.

HM1{N} wrote:

I am not a hippie, and YOU are the one ignoring the reality of the situation: Israel is systematically killing civilians, mostly children, as they destroy WHOLE TOWNS/CITIES in Lebanon.

Quoted for more irony. Isreal is fighting an enemy that hides behind its own civilians. They launch rockets from civilian neighborhoods, that is why civilian towns are being destroyed. One could attribute the majority of civilian casualties in this conflict to the cowardice of Hezbollah. Isreal is not directly targeting nor eterminating the civilian population.

I pointed this out to him earlier, but it's like it goes in one ear and out the other. No matter what you tell him, what valid points you bring up, you just get a spew of emotion from him backed up by nothing.

King_County_Downy wrote:

So when hezbollah indiscriminately launches rockets into civilian homes (TRYING TO KILL CIVILIANS)and Israel responds with bombs, targeting Hezbollah, you're trying to call foul on Israel? wtf? Lebanon needs to get in on the action by ALSO targeting Hezbollah if they want Israel to stop. Obviously they aren't man enough to do it themselves. I'm with Israel all the way on this one.

Actually, Israel started indiscriminately with bombs and artillery, THEN Hezbollah started lobbing rockets.

HM1{N} wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

So when hezbollah indiscriminately launches rockets into civilian homes (TRYING TO KILL CIVILIANS)and Israel responds with bombs, targeting Hezbollah, you're trying to call foul on Israel? wtf? Lebanon needs to get in on the action by ALSO targeting Hezbollah if they want Israel to stop. Obviously they aren't man enough to do it themselves. I'm with Israel all the way on this one.

Actually, Israel started indiscriminately with bombs and artillery, THEN Hezbollah started lobbing rockets.

sry, try again. Hezbollah started the shit. Isreal and the rest of the world will end it.

King_County_Downy wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

So when hezbollah indiscriminately launches rockets into civilian homes (TRYING TO KILL CIVILIANS)and Israel responds with bombs, targeting Hezbollah, you're trying to call foul on Israel? wtf? Lebanon needs to get in on the action by ALSO targeting Hezbollah if they want Israel to stop. Obviously they aren't man enough to do it themselves. I'm with Israel all the way on this one.

Actually, Israel started indiscriminately with bombs and artillery, THEN Hezbollah started lobbing rockets.

sry, try again. Hezbollah started the shit. Isreal and the rest of the world will end it.

I know really!!! It's like I could say "Hitler killed millions of Jews in concentration camps" and HM1{N} would respond with "No, the Jews killed millions of Nazis in concentration camps". It's like he just takes a fact and magically reverses it and uses it as his argument. He HAS to be trolling (takes one to know one).

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-08-07 16:57:49)

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

Stop quoting me out of context to justify what you say.  That wasn't my response to him then, now was it?

Nothing is taken out of context. No matter how many people try to spoon-feed you this, you still don't seem to get it.

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Isreal is fighting an enemy that hides behind its own civilians. They launch rockets from civilian neighborhoods, that is why civilian towns are being destroyed. One could attribute the majority of civilian casualties in this conflict to the cowardice of Hezbollah. Isreal is not directly targeting nor eterminating the civilian population.

Read this paragraph, even if you have to do so 50 times to comprehend it.

Read this sentence 100 times so you can comprehend it, I'm surprised you don't, because you wrote it:  this is what Israel has done for 60 years in the Middle-East...

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Yes, because a military invasion is exactly what terrorism is. Just like when the U.S. invaded Iraq.

Last edited by HM1{N} (2006-08-07 17:02:26)

King_County_Downy wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

So when hezbollah indiscriminately launches rockets into civilian homes (TRYING TO KILL CIVILIANS)and Israel responds with bombs, targeting Hezbollah, you're trying to call foul on Israel? wtf? Lebanon needs to get in on the action by ALSO targeting Hezbollah if they want Israel to stop. Obviously they aren't man enough to do it themselves. I'm with Israel all the way on this one.

Actually, Israel started indiscriminately with bombs and artillery, THEN Hezbollah started lobbing rockets.

sry, try again. Hezbollah started the shit. Isreal and the rest of the world will end it.

Kidnapping 2 soldiers does not justify killing 700+ civilians with glee...or do I need to post pictures of Israeli soldiers "trophy posing" with their kills?

HM1{N} wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

Actually, Israel started indiscriminately with bombs and artillery, THEN Hezbollah started lobbing rockets.

sry, try again. Hezbollah started the shit. Isreal and the rest of the world will end it.

Kidnapping 2 soldiers does not justify killing 700+ civilians with glee...or do I need to post pictures of Israeli soldiers "trophy posing" with their kills?

And if Hezbollah could kill 100,000 Israeli civilians, they would. Are you seriously this bassackwards?

Edit: and not only with glee, they would drag their bodies through the streets chanting "God is Great!!" Jesus titty fucking christ this is retarded. Let me spell it out a little more clear for you.

HEZBOLLAH TARGETS ISREALI CIVILIANS. THEY WOULD KILL THEM ALL IF THEY HAD THE MEANS.

Last edited by King_County_Downy (2006-08-07 17:31:33)

stop using logic

Honestly, it's like a propaganda echo chamber in here.   I have to admit, I can't understand why some of you would work so hard at spamming the forum with the exact same one-sided shit anybody can get just by turning on their TV.  Is that how you conceive of "Debate and Serious Talk"?

Here's something logical to chew on:  The primary focus of pro-Israel hasbara has, for at least the last twenty years, been the exact same country which stands virtually alone in the world in supporting everything they do, carte blanche.  Is this a coincidence?  I can assure you it's not.

I happen to know for a fact that Americans are not evil or stupid people.  But I also happen to know the American media reports anything to do with Israel in a uniquely one-sided manner.  Even news in Israel itself is less biased, and that's a fact.

There's no need for anybody to defend their country's media, out of a misguided sense of loyalty.  It is what it is.  Look at what people from all over the world are saying.  Ask yourself, is it possible, might it just be even faintly plausible, that there is more than one side to this story?

Canin wrote:

I have a question. Everyone keeps talking about Lebanese civilian casualties, and how the Israeli Army is targeting civilians with arty and air strikes rather than using ground troops in conventional style warfare, but has anyone actually seen a Hezbollah Military uniform???? I've searched for some time, and I just cant seem to find a picture of one. So I am curious how the Israeli Army is supposed to differentiate between the civilians and Hezbollah when the are apparently dressed the same and the Hezbollah are using civilian areas as bases of operations????

You're right about the uniform but they should try to avoid civilian deaths by any means unless they make south Lebanon a free fire zone and blow up everything that moves.

And what about the patriot anti-missile thing, does it work ???

Sondernkommando wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

Um. The US and their allies have the power to veto or debunk any resolution they want.

The US may veto any Security Council assembly it wishes, but General Assembly or UN Council on Human Rights (chaired by Libya!) cannot be vetoed in this way.   Hence that long list of UN resolutions against Israel.

This is how the free nations of the world (read EU, US, Japan) get overruled by a cabal of Middle East and African dictatorships.

Okay, let me get this straight, you think an outnumbered group of middle easter states that do not always agree are defeating North America and the whole of Europe? Almost all the nations on both those continents are "free" nations.

Besides, the US has veto power over anything that matter. The security counsel has the power to intervene, the rest is just the UN playing the man in the corner that politely protests as his friend is beaten to a pulp. Israel doesn't listen to the UN, but they will listen to UN guns, which the US can handily veto for them.

The UN is in no way biased against Israel, if anything, it is biased towards them.