BF2S Forums Making the Sniper unlock an M95 was a mistake

They should have made the M24 have the properties of the current M95 (minus glass pentration), and the M95 the properties of the current M24 (plus glass penetration).

Just my opinon, though.

Last edited by DUFFKING (2005-11-01 11:07:16)

Well... I just think the m24 is too powerfull

the only advantage it has over the m24 is glass penetration, which honestly comes up almost never. in all my time of playing sniper i have only once sniped someone out of a helicopter, and that was some noob that landed a bh at a flag and just sat in the pilot seat. the m24 and the m95 do the same damage per shot, and the m24 is more accurate. not to mention that the m95 is louder and the sight picture in the scope is too cluttered. i only use the m95 when i'm on chinese or mec, the toys they get barely even pass as sniper rifles.

http://ubar.bf2s.com/kits.php#sniper

I think you guys are missing the meaning of what I made this post about.

I am not talking about the properties or stats of the sniper rifles being good or bad.

I'm saying they should have never called the unlockable sniper rifle an "M95" because people have a preconcieved idea of its real life properties of being able to penetrate vehicle armor and rip people to shreds with one shot. In the game it will never do these things, so why call it something it is not?

all bullets will go through wood, with varying success. i love when i'm in a truck and i switch to the mg to shoot infantry. people will instinctively run behind a fence for cover, so i spray liberally hoping to get lucky. that gets me called a hacker so often i can't even being to count. but i see your point. there have been two or three times when i had the m24 that i was presented with a honey shoot that made me wish i HAD switched to the m95 before spawning. hindsight is always 20/20 i suppose.

Last edited by ayb (2005-11-03 12:47:10)

The barret was a terrible choice to make as unlock weapon.

Better would have been:

PGM Mini-Hecate: French sniper rifle, designed for 500-1200m operation, extremely accurate and deadly

MSG 90: Military version of the PSG 1, think Type 88 only with close to M82 accuracy, and increased damage over dragunov/type 88

You know, I bitch and moan about how untrue the M95 is to its real-life counterpart, but I'd never thought of the game balance issue. If you've got a weapon that can shoot down anything in the air, put holes through low to medium armor, and tear troops in half... you'd have to give everyone else force fields, miniguns, phasers, and death rays just to keep things level. With that in mind, I would replace that unlock with simply a more advanced sniper rifle. An Accuracy International AWM in .308 magnum with a laser-rangefinder scope and bullet trajectory calculator. Maybe a Walther 2000 sniper rifle, I dunno. Something that stands out as being on the exotic side. I doubt I would've gone with the MSG90, as it uses the same caliber round as the SVD and that other Chinese rifle...

Nice suggestions guys. I'm glad someone finally understood what I was saying.

Nazarak wrote:

the M95 riffle is the best sniper rifle ever you can shoot a camper from a great distance like 500 or 600m if you have set the sight to max in your video seting

Set the sight to max in your video settings?
Um.. What is he talking about? I don't remember this setting.

I dont know the real life M95 from the video game one - I've never shot one and I probably never will. For video game purposes I think its great and I enjoy using it for the most part.

Um well I think that the M95 is an ok weapon. It's only advantages is the glass penetration really in play terms. This feature I have used three times with spectacular effect. One time i shot a guy in a black hawk and laughed as the helicopter span out of control because he was turning as he died. As for switching between sniper rifles. The chinese one sucks and has no power at all and the MEC one is ok. The USMC primary one is the only one that comes close but I stick with the M95 in hope of those great moments.
Oh and By the way my name is SniperHutch but I actually have the prefix of Anti. I like killing off the N00b snipers in humiliating ways. My favorite is knifing them or sniping them with the special forces unlock. Humiliation is the word.They cant even see you and shuffle about as if they got shot. LOL!

kilroy0097 wrote:

Nazarak wrote:

the M95 riffle is the best sniper rifle ever you can shoot a camper from a great distance like 500 or 600m if you have set the sight to max in your video seting

Set the sight to max in your video settings?
Um.. What is he talking about? I don't remember this setting.

I'm not sure, but I think he's referring to view distance set to 100%. Which I think most everyone with a decent video card does.

And I've been thinking, I know we all think this gun is really powerful and such, but I really don't think it would be that easy to take out choppers and tanks in real life by simply wielding an M95. Now I'm no weapons buff, but I did fire an M95 once and that thing was a bitch to handle. It was loud as heck too, much louder that the game makes it seem. I don't think it would be my weapon of choice if I had to go take out infantry, and that really is our main objective.

I think the main purpose of a .50 cal rifle is to take out armored vehicles. This is it's primary aplication in the field of battle (if i'm not mistaken of course, feel free to diss me and flame me if I am wrong). If you read about .50 cal rifle ammo, http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/fas/ you'll see that there is actually a good variety of bullets that you can use, but for true armor desotrying properties, you'd definatelly need some incendiary rounds. I think in the game, we get regular old armor piercing bullets, which should aid in the overall balance of the game. I would love it if we could chose our ammunition... those armor-piercing, incendiary tracer rounds would look so sweet.

Overall, I love the USA M24/M95 combo we've got going on. The M24's scope, along with it's percieved better accuracy make it the best sniper rifle against infantry. When vehicles come into play, the M95 rules your socks off because if you use it right, it can be a deterrent for any chopper or light vehicle that comes your way. I've shot many people out of their vehicles by correctly timing a bullet at the main window. I've also taken out many enemies in the turret of a vehicle with this puppy.

And as for choppers, while you think that nothign will happen if you shoot at them, think again. A good solid shot to the underbody or to the cockpit (haha i said cock) will do some minimal yet important damage. It's enough to make the chopper make it a priority to find out what is damaging it, ignoring your teammates while they cap a flag or something. Two shots to the glass/underbody will take out a smoking chopper, almost guaranteed. And as a reward for your efforts, you may even shoot out a pilot every once in a while which makes the gun that much sweeter. Just keep shooting at that chopper.

No comment on the MEC/PLA sniper combos... seriously. M95 makes it a little bit better, but those semi-auto toys are a joke.

So in conclusion, the gun is fine, I love it, wouldn't trade it for anything. It's the scope and the ammo that the game got wrong.