but to assume ANY life (non terrorist) has more value over others is wrong.
You believe everything you read? How sad.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
just like the "outrage" that was felt for the citizens of fallujah November, 2004. They had 3 weeks to evacuate. what would you do if someone told you that your house will be the target of several thousands of rounds of ammunition in 3 weeks. would you act surprised when those 3 weeks are up and you end up losing a couple of legs if you decided to stay?
Got 3 weeks of warning.....thats funny shit.
When the fuck did i say they had more value? Stop assuming things, you're making yourself look like 10 year old.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
but to assume ANY life (non terrorist) has more value over others is wrong.
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lol, yeah I sure read about that.PRiMACORD wrote:
You believe everything you read? How sad.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
just like the "outrage" that was felt for the citizens of fallujah November, 2004. They had 3 weeks to evacuate. what would you do if someone told you that your house will be the target of several thousands of rounds of ammunition in 3 weeks. would you act surprised when those 3 weeks are up and you end up losing a couple of legs if you decided to stay?
Got 3 weeks of warning.....thats funny shit.
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So now Canadian lives are more important than Lebanese, Israeli, Iraqi, Afghani, Syrian, or Jordainian lives?
NEWS FLASH!!!
They aren't, all life is equally valuable.
As much as I hate extemist, terrorist, wetbac*s, ni**ers, white trash, chin*s, spi*s and all others, I still value human life. People fail to realize the difference between the words I listed there and races. I think Chris Rock said it best when he said "I love black people, but I hate ni**ers." I feel the exact same way. If you give your race a bad name, then I don't like you and have no value for your life. The same goes for nationality's, just as we are led by the media and word of mouth that Iraqi's are bad, they aren't. It's the extremist, terrorist assholes who are the enemy.
People on the other hand, white, black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, european, american, canadian, israeli, lebonese, syrian, chinese, are mostly all the same. The common folk just want to be happy, raise a family, and make a better life for thier kids. It's too bad the people I listed above ruin it for the majority of people.
NEWS FLASH!!!
They aren't, all life is equally valuable.
As much as I hate extemist, terrorist, wetbac*s, ni**ers, white trash, chin*s, spi*s and all others, I still value human life. People fail to realize the difference between the words I listed there and races. I think Chris Rock said it best when he said "I love black people, but I hate ni**ers." I feel the exact same way. If you give your race a bad name, then I don't like you and have no value for your life. The same goes for nationality's, just as we are led by the media and word of mouth that Iraqi's are bad, they aren't. It's the extremist, terrorist assholes who are the enemy.
People on the other hand, white, black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, european, american, canadian, israeli, lebonese, syrian, chinese, are mostly all the same. The common folk just want to be happy, raise a family, and make a better life for thier kids. It's too bad the people I listed above ruin it for the majority of people.
Oh you, i respect you for what you're doing. (for real, no sarcasm)GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
lol, read.PRiMACORD wrote:
You believe everything you read? How sad.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
just like the "outrage" that was felt for the citizens of fallujah November, 2004. They had 3 weeks to evacuate. what would you do if someone told you that your house will be the target of several thousands of rounds of ammunition in 3 weeks. would you act surprised when those 3 weeks are up and you end up losing a couple of legs if you decided to stay?
Got 3 weeks of warning.....thats funny shit.
I still very much doubt what you say, logically speaking, why the hell wouldn't they evac.
Anyway, that was a US attack and if they did get warning that has nothing to do with this Israeli attack. I can't find anything that says they did get warning, besides the first bombs going off that is...
you could take my word for it or not. Haji knew we were going to fallujah before I did bro.
Weren't they Lebanese-Canadian, dual citizenship or something? Maybe "racist" isn't the word, exactly.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
im not addressing this at you, but it seems to show just how racist the west could be when it comes to the value of human life. Haji's heart beats just as loud as anyone elses, but all of sudden 8 canadians die and something must be done. please.
The point isn't their ethnicity, it's (1) their status as civilians, (2) the fact of who killed them (Israel), and only then, (3) that they happened to be Canadian as well. You can be sure we'd hear about Canadians dying in the ME as a result of action by, ya know, real "terrorists". Except I don't think that's actually happened, has it?
But I agree their deaths don't matter more than the hundreds of other civilians killed.
And I don't think Canada would be bombing Israel in a "perfect world"... That's crazy talk. All we gots is teh nucular grizzleh strike capability anyway.
LOL CANADA BOMB SOMEONE ROFLherrr_smity wrote:
Shit, now Canada has to bomb Israel to get even.
With what aircraft.. last time i checked.. we had like 2 Bombers.. but i think they are used for Fighting Forest Fires...
Ya, i heard Canada's Sending both Ships over too...brome wrote:
France, UK and Sweden are all sending battleships to the area...
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But Seriously.. our Army is lame.. I hope we Beef it up soon, cause if not, with all this conflict going on.. we could end up regretting it..
CNN seems to hold up better here then some of the other networks. If I had said it was on Fox, everyone would have said that Fox was lying, then post 20 pages on what they have reported in the past that was not true.PRiMACORD wrote:
I have not been able to find anything on that. Anyway CNN? Propaganada network supreme.dubbs wrote:
According to CNN, Israel did drop leaflets (sp) telling that they were bombing the location. CNN had this on their index page on July 16th, I can not find the link, or I would have posted it.
PS: Primacord, glad you posted here.
Thanks i guess. It's not only the canadians i worry about it's just that this hits very close to home. I'm not some stone cold logistician who's going to pass off the loss of life as only an accident that is 'normal'. Death is never normal and never should be.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5186140.stm
At least the Canadian government is working on getting the rest out of Lebanon.
whoa, we have two ships?! Luxury!LT.Victim wrote:
Ya, i heard Canada's Sending both Ships over too...
Seriously, though -- who is going to attack us?LT.Victim wrote:
But Seriously.. our Army is lame.. I hope we Beef it up soon, cause if not, with all this conflict going on.. we could end up regretting it..
8 canadians died in Lebanon, they must have beer in Lebanon eh.
Anyone that lives in that part of the world needs to be beating to death the local radical Islamists. If the locals don't clean out their own communtities, who cares if they get killed in the crossfire. Appearently shit hasn't gotten bad enough for these governments and civilians to police themselves.
A couple major cities need carpet bombed for being safe havens for terrorists, that will help light a fire under the people to clean up their communities, along with a lot of other governments over there. I really hate touchy feely wars in which our 18-21 year old boys have to die to protect some family from being carpet bombed, when the family has been ok with the terrorist living in their area and killing "Infidels" and preaching hate. Screw 'em, I would never tolerate a person of any race/religion killing/(conspiring to kill civilians) just because of race/religion in the name of race/religion. I would consider anyone that allows evil shit like this fester in their neighborhoods (especially after WW2 with the Nazis) to be part of the problem.
I do feel really sorry about the truely innocent over there that die, especially the children. But I put no one's life above our kids that are in dangers way.
Anyone that lives in that part of the world needs to be beating to death the local radical Islamists. If the locals don't clean out their own communtities, who cares if they get killed in the crossfire. Appearently shit hasn't gotten bad enough for these governments and civilians to police themselves.
A couple major cities need carpet bombed for being safe havens for terrorists, that will help light a fire under the people to clean up their communities, along with a lot of other governments over there. I really hate touchy feely wars in which our 18-21 year old boys have to die to protect some family from being carpet bombed, when the family has been ok with the terrorist living in their area and killing "Infidels" and preaching hate. Screw 'em, I would never tolerate a person of any race/religion killing/(conspiring to kill civilians) just because of race/religion in the name of race/religion. I would consider anyone that allows evil shit like this fester in their neighborhoods (especially after WW2 with the Nazis) to be part of the problem.
I do feel really sorry about the truely innocent over there that die, especially the children. But I put no one's life above our kids that are in dangers way.
Ya.. i let them borrow my Tin can Fishing boat..spastic bullet wrote:
whoa, we have two ships?! Luxury!LT.Victim wrote:
Ya, i heard Canada's Sending both Ships over too...
LT.Victim wrote:
But Seriously.. our Army is lame.. I hope we Beef it up soon, cause if not, with all this conflict going on.. we could end up regretting it..
I dunno.. Maybe the chinese... but that wouldn't make sense.. since they are already here..spastic bullet wrote:
Seriously, though -- who is going to attack us?
Well, that's 8 Canadians killed by Israel and 0 Canadians killed by Hizbollah, or Hamas, or whoever. And even though I believe you if you say you feel sorry for the innocents, do you really think "carpet bomb[ing]" "a couple major cities" is the way to turn locals against extremists? Think that will work?Major_Spittle wrote:
8 canadians died in Lebanon, they must have beer in Lebanon eh.
Anyone that lives in that part of the world needs to be beating to death the local radical Islamists. If the locals don't clean out their own communtities, who cares if they get killed in the crossfire. Appearently shit hasn't gotten bad enough for these governments and civilians to police themselves.
A couple major cities need carpet bombed for being safe havens for terrorists, that will help light a fire under the people to clean up their communities, along with a lot of other governments over there. I really hate touchy feely wars in which our 18-21 year old boys have to die to protect some family from being carpet bombed, when the family has been ok with the terrorist living in their area and killing "Infidels" and preaching hate. Screw 'em, I would never tolerate a person of any race/religion killing/(conspiring to kill civilians) just because of race/religion in the name of race/religion. I would consider anyone that allows evil shit like this fester in their neighborhoods (especially after WW2 with the Nazis) to be part of the problem.
I do feel really sorry about the truely innocent over there that die, especially the children. But I put no one's life above our kids that are in dangers way.
Tell me, did 9/11 motivate you to "clean up [your] communities", or did you direct your anger at the perpetrators? If anything, leaders and perceived authorities in attacked countries can expect a surge in ratings among the locals, especially if they are perceived to be standing up to the aggression from outside.
Al-Qaida haven't attacked the US in five years, and GWB's ratings have been on an uninterrupted downward slide ever since. Coincidence? Maybe if Israel's goal wasn't to actually escalate the conflict, they would try undermining Hizbollah by not attacking Lebanon.
But Israel's goal is to escalate the conflict, and try to bolster and consolidate the standing of the more extreme elements throughout the ME. They want to force the issue, because of their obvious military advantage (courtesy of the US taxpayer). It's no secret.
In the United States, in California, in los angeles......if a gang member shoots at another gangmember,misses and kills an innocent bystander, both gang members are considered at fault and responsible for the death of that innocent.
And then they both commit seppuku.
but seriously folks......
Seriously, though. How are they both responsible, and what are the consequences of that responsibility? Are there any?
like theyre a ninja... sure....spastic bullet wrote:
And then they both commit seppuku.
imprisonment. manslaughter. They are both responsible because of the actions and lifestyle that they decide to participate in led to the death of undeserved bystander.
I get it now. I thought you meant they view themselves as mutually responsible, but you mean the law views them as equally responsible. That's fair enough.
I should have been clearer, its 2 in the morning and I got writers block with this term paper. freaky freaky freaky ali babba mistah mistah...i need sleep.
edit: that really doesnt make sense to anyone but me does it?
edit: that really doesnt make sense to anyone but me does it?
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Sleep... is good.
ARRRRRRRRR!!!! *lop*
Pirates don't do hara-kiri. Might be cool if they did, though...cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
like theyre a ninja... sure....spastic bullet wrote:
And then they both commit seppuku.
ARRRRRRRRR!!!! *lop*
im not think.. im sure! and u also can see it in real! lebanon never, and i repeat NEVER didnt tryed to fight against terrorism on thayr land! and what we got after bombs fals on beirut? we got a screaming lebanon goverment, that thay whant to fight against terror!!! so if that works? yes that works!spastic bullet wrote:
do you really think "carpet bomb[ing]" "a couple major cities" is the way to turn locals against extremists? Think that will work?
but actualy all this topic is about to turn canadians against us!all normal ppl in here should understand that it is war, and civilians die on wars dosent matter were they from! but anyway i say sorry to canadian ppl!
Well said man.spastic bullet wrote:
Well, that's 8 Canadians killed by Israel and 0 Canadians killed by Hizbollah, or Hamas, or whoever. And even though I believe you if you say you feel sorry for the innocents, do you really think "carpet bomb[ing]" "a couple major cities" is the way to turn locals against extremists? Think that will work?Major_Spittle wrote:
8 canadians died in Lebanon, they must have beer in Lebanon eh.
Anyone that lives in that part of the world needs to be beating to death the local radical Islamists. If the locals don't clean out their own communtities, who cares if they get killed in the crossfire. Appearently shit hasn't gotten bad enough for these governments and civilians to police themselves.
A couple major cities need carpet bombed for being safe havens for terrorists, that will help light a fire under the people to clean up their communities, along with a lot of other governments over there. I really hate touchy feely wars in which our 18-21 year old boys have to die to protect some family from being carpet bombed, when the family has been ok with the terrorist living in their area and killing "Infidels" and preaching hate. Screw 'em, I would never tolerate a person of any race/religion killing/(conspiring to kill civilians) just because of race/religion in the name of race/religion. I would consider anyone that allows evil shit like this fester in their neighborhoods (especially after WW2 with the Nazis) to be part of the problem.
I do feel really sorry about the truely innocent over there that die, especially the children. But I put no one's life above our kids that are in dangers way.
Tell me, did 9/11 motivate you to "clean up [your] communities", or did you direct your anger at the perpetrators? If anything, leaders and perceived authorities in attacked countries can expect a surge in ratings among the locals, especially if they are perceived to be standing up to the aggression from outside.
Al-Qaida haven't attacked the US in five years, and GWB's ratings have been on an uninterrupted downward slide ever since. Coincidence? Maybe if Israel's goal wasn't to actually escalate the conflict, they would try undermining Hizbollah by not attacking Lebanon.
But Israel's goal is to escalate the conflict, and try to bolster and consolidate the standing of the more extreme elements throughout the ME. They want to force the issue, because of their obvious military advantage (courtesy of the US taxpayer). It's no secret.
look at this from the point of view that all the middle east has. Its the 1940's and WW2 has just ended, suddenly you find that your land is TAKEN from you and given to some people. Why? because millions were killed by the germans? The worst thing we (the US) ever did was help in securing that land for the Jewish people. If we had never done that then i can promise you that there would be about 75% fewer wars in the middle east. Isreal is on stolen land that belonged to somebody else. Finders keepers losers weepers.
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