The War In Iraq

2006-07-15 17:14:36

#1

ImmortalTechnique: Banned; +33|6762

We often overlook the fiscal parts of this war, we equate things like freedom to casualties and such. But even if this war has had some good come out of it it could never be better than solving world hunger 8 times over.

Especially considering it is creating poverty and death, we are spending money that could be doing tons and tons of good on doing what is generally seen to be bad and even if you think its decent you cannot argue that this war is more important than solving world hunger.

http://nationalpriorities.org/index.php … Itemid=182

2006-07-15 17:18:33

#2

ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ: Banned; +69|6742

maybe YOU overlook the fiscal aspect. 300 billion wouldnt solve world hunger.

Creating poverty? nope..

2006-07-15 17:18:54

#3

Cougar: Banned; +1,962|7005|Dallas

OK. The debate you are trying to start is what? Hunger>War? Duh.

2006-07-15 18:43:41

#4

joewardog: Member; +6|6931|Great Plains (USA)

But what compels anyone to believe that throwing MONEY at a problem will help solve it?

Instead of trying to lump every countries hunger problem as "world hunger" focus on why those countries are starving individually. I'd argue that most of the time it isn't money, but it is either infastructure or governmental problems.

2006-07-15 23:30:55

#5

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6770|Global Command

Somalia is a good example.
The world sent in food and the warlords horded it and let them starve as they used it to gain their own power.
We are trying to plant the seed of freedom. And as was once said the tree of liberty must be now and then fertilized with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Freedom will do more for these people than sacks of grain.

2006-07-15 23:39:45

#6

TrollmeaT: Aspiring Objectivist; +492|6913|Colorado

ImmortalTechnique wrote:
solving world hunger 8 times over.

yeah right.

If you're really worried about world hunger you'd be after the people that destroy millions of tons of perfectly good food with no one to buy it.
War is an unfortunate necessity sometimes for the greater good of the people, Iraq will be the better for it.
Besides world hunger wouldn't be an issue if people would stop breeding at the drop of a hat, its called birth control backwards arsed societys.

2006-07-15 23:43:26

#7

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6770|Global Command

TrollmeaT wrote:
ImmortalTechnique wrote:
solving world hunger 8 times over.
yeah right.

If you're really worried about world hunger you'd be after the people that destroy millions of tons of perfectly good food with no one to buy it.
War is an unfortunate necessity sometimes for the greater good of the people, Iraq will be the better for it.
Besides world hunger wouldn't be an issue if people would stop breeding at the drop of a hat, its called birth control backwards arsed societys.

Ouch! ftw Trollmeat my vote for post of the day.

2006-07-15 23:46:17

#8

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6957

Alexanderthegrape wrote:
TrollmeaT wrote:
ImmortalTechnique wrote:
solving world hunger 8 times over.
yeah right.

If you're really worried about world hunger you'd be after the people that destroy millions of tons of perfectly good food with no one to buy it.
War is an unfortunate necessity sometimes for the greater good of the people, Iraq will be the better for it.
Besides world hunger wouldn't be an issue if people would stop breeding at the drop of a hat, its called birth control backwards arsed societys.
Ouch! ftw Trollmeat my vote for post of the day.

agree

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2006-07-15 23:56:56

#9

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

The United States military has been will continue to meet and exceed any challenge that is presented anywhere in the world, especially the Army : )

had to say it.

2006-07-16 00:07:07

#10

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6770|Global Command

Garryowen!

2006-07-16 00:09:24

#11

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

The 7th, 1st!

2006-07-16 00:17:31

#12

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6802

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
The United States military has been will continue to meet and exceed any challenge that is presented anywhere in the world, especially the Army : )

had to say it.

Vietnam...............

2006-07-16 00:20:43

#13

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

Bubbalo wrote:
GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
The United States military has been will continue to meet and exceed any challenge that is presented anywhere in the world, especially the Army : )

had to say it.
Vietnam...............

the military didnt fail. the politicians did.

2006-07-16 00:27:01

#14

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6802

Despite a continued military presence, insurgency continued. And besides which, you said you could meet any challenge, not any non-political challenge.

2006-07-16 00:30:12

#15

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

Bubbalo wrote:
Despite a continued military presence, insurgency continued. And besides which, you said you could meet any challenge, not any non-political challenge.

the military and politics arent judges by the same standard. a resolution being argues in the senate has nothing to do with a squad taking out a fixed position. does that make it a little clearer?

2006-07-16 00:32:58

#16

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6802

No. You still failed to prevent North Vietnam from subsuming South Vietnam.

2006-07-16 00:33:07

#17

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

bubbalo. you continue to fail to understand the whole concept behind an armed force. the military is there to kill the enemy. not kill whatever it is thats making that person the enemy.

2006-07-16 00:34:39

#18

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6770|Global Command

Bubbalo wrote:
Despite a continued military presence, insurgency continued. And besides which, you said you could meet any challenge, not any non-political challenge.

With all due respect Bubbalo, you are dead wrong on this.
We fought to a negotiated truce. We left. The north violated the truce, we didn't go back in, and so you say we lost? That is EXACTLY why we are back in Iraq. Saddam was in violation of the cease fire, and people like you would have said that because of that we lost gulf war one.
If we lost in Veitnam its because we assumed the yellow commie dogs could be trusted. Maybe we should have just bombed them senseless.
What would be different? Nadda.

2006-07-16 00:41:39

#19

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

Im bored and pissed off that I spent 17 dollars in parking today and I didnt even get to see the Last Comic Standing being aired.

here are some links that I get my news from:

http://www.cfr.org/

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/home2.asp

https://www.us.army.mil/suite/login/welcome.html

2006-07-16 00:51:12

#20

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6884

The military didnt lose in Vietnam. Tet was a failure. we got some retard up on these forums talking about 40 thousand rounds fired per vc killed bullshit ratio. thats great. the military was very succesful in finding and destroying the enemy, i could explain and get deeper into the details but thats a waste of time because regardless of what I write your still gonna believe your opinions, thats cool. It gets really frustating for about a second trying to explain military concepts to people who are very anti-military. tunnel vision.

2006-07-16 00:54:19

#21

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6957

Reason why vietnam war was so called "lost": the politicions got too involved. The US is not gonna make that same mistake ever.

2006-07-16 00:59:34

#22

PuckMercury: 6 x 9 = 42; +298|6768|Portland, OR USA

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Reason why vietnam war was so called "lost": the politicions got too involved. The US is not gonna make that same mistake ever.

qft

2006-07-16 01:07:31

#23

beerface702: Member; +65|6934|las vegas

the money would have just been wasted else where under this adminstration

2006-07-16 01:14:30

#24

DeadboyUSMC: Member; +65|6940|NCFSU2

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
The United States military has been will continue to meet and exceed any challenge that is presented anywhere in the world, especially the Army : )

had to say it.

I guess someone has to take over once the Marines get out of town.

J/k, Army is cool too, I guess. Better than the Chair Force!

Semper,
DB

2006-07-16 01:34:53

#25

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6802

Alexanderthegrape wrote:
The north violated the truce

Apart from the fact that the war was started when the South renegged on an agreement........

If you (not in the specific, but in the general sense) were dumb enough to believe the North would leave it at that........well, let's just say there are sharper tools in the shed...........

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