DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6846|Doncaster, UK
Hey all,

I have a quick question for you.

At present my rig is as follows:

P4 3.4Ghz (650)
2Gb DDR PC3200 RAM
Asus P5S800-VM mobo (sux)
ATI Radeon 9550 LE (256Mb)
HDD are 7200rpm Seagate jobbies.

BF2 plays, but everything on low and I feel I'm missing out.

Basically my question to you is this, if this was your rig, what would you do to improve performance. Would you exchange some stuff? Buy a new mobo and GPU?

In a nutshell, would you salvage some parts from this system to build a new one or would you just wait (gotta save up the disposable income) and buy a new PC in the first quarter of next year.

Thanks in advance for all the useful replies that I'm sure will follow.

Cheers,

Doc
FathomsDown
Member
+19|6951|England
A tricky one but it seems that you have been a victim (like most of us) of the switch from AGP to PCI-E. The problem is that to get decent graphics throughput you will need to get a newer graphics card and most of the faster cards on the market have moved over to PCI-E due to its greater bus bandwidth.

The problem is that to go for a PCI-E graphics card you will need a PCI-E mobo which will mean new RAM and a faster CPU. Basically the guts of your PC need a major upgrade and if you are going to do all that then you may as well get a whole new rig.
nieker
THE FLYING DUTCH PENGUIN, THE NINTENDO PENGUIN
+191|6927|The Netherlands
lol my pc is worse but i play on avrything average and the anti ali on X4 and it runss smooth
Teamsreth
Complete Tanker
+17|7143|England
Having no idea with this sort of thing, I would say graphics card.

I run mine all on high, with an average fps of 60+

A64 3700+
3Gb ram
ATI X1800XT 512.
generic HDD
Creative soundcard.

It does the job until I build a new one Q3 next year. (if she will let me )
']['error
Banned
+630|6944|The Netherlands
well for agp there are some good upgrade's upgrade availeble, nvidea made the 7800gt and the 7800GS in AGP version. It is equal to the 7800gt PCI-E, i think it is worth upgrading it, because you have an excellent processor, 2 gigs of ram, and with the 7800gt you wil be able to play it all maxed out with 4x AA I think.

ATI has some good cards to, don't know wich one's are in AGP


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DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6846|Doncaster, UK
@ FathomsDown, Teamsreth and Terror, thanks for the help and advice guys. I'm not looking for blistering performance, just better than all low so I might just price up a new mobo, GPU and sound card for now and then add to it later, or just replace it and pass the lesser machine on to my son. For what it costs for a decent AGP GPU I think it's cheaper to go with the mobo and GPU in PCI-E though.

@niekjejeje, exactly the response I'd expect from a 14 year old. Thanks for playing.

Doc

Last edited by DoctorFruitloop (2006-07-13 02:51:51)

joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6898|Cheshire. UK
Doc a quick fix would be your graphics card.... the ATI X800's are coming down in price and are very capable cards..... if you have a burning desire and a bit of cash

http://www.aria.co.uk/productinfocomm.a … alStatus=1
']['error
Banned
+630|6944|The Netherlands

joker3327 wrote:

Doc a quick fix would be your graphics card.... the ATI X800's are coming down in price and are very capable cards..... if you have a burning desire and a bit of cash

http://www.aria.co.uk/productinfocomm.a … alStatus=1
jep they say the x800 is great in overclocking. well I admit i never overclocked anything, but I like to read threads, websites and stuff of people overclocking graphic cards
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7016
get a conroe ready mobo and use 7600gt and ddr2 ram
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6846|Doncaster, UK
And thanks to Joker, alhtough why does your link take me to a 7800GS?

The other thing is, that whilst I used to be very savvy on computer tech, things have moved rapdily on and left me behind.

I am very tempted just to make do and wait until I have the money to buy a new rig complete (alienware) and have the comfort that should something go drastically wrong with it I haven't got to figure out which bit has fucked up, take it out and return it to the shop.

Any thoughts? Particularly on whether Alienware are worth buying or is it all hype.

Last edited by DoctorFruitloop (2006-07-13 03:47:22)

rootbeer73
Member
+24|6885|in a small dark place
i have 2.3 gig. 1 gig ram.  6200 agp 256 card. play it on medium with 2x aa
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6898|Cheshire. UK

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

And thanks to Joker, alhtough why does your link take me to a 7800GS?
Because thats about the best AGP card you can get at the mo ...IMO...!! thats why the link.....
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6861|Cheshire, UK
^^^

Agreed.
Dieselboy
Flicker of beans since 1986
+87|6850|Reading, Basingrad

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

And thanks to Joker, alhtough why does your link take me to a 7800GS?

The other thing is, that whilst I used to be very savvy on computer tech, things have moved rapdily on and left me behind.

I am very tempted just to make do and wait until I have the money to buy a new rig complete (alienware) and have the comfort that should something go drastically wrong with it I haven't got to figure out which bit has fucked up, take it out and return it to the shop.

Any thoughts? Particularly on whether Alienware are worth buying or is it all hype.
Forget Alienware matey....try www.wired2fire.co.uk
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6846|Doncaster, UK
Thank you all for your informative and helpful repsonses. I think I may have to go for the intermediate option and buy the 7800GS. You are a credit to the site and upstanding and sensible members....

HAVE A PIE!

https://www.oxfordfrozenfoods.com/images/pie.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6898|Cheshire. UK

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Thank you all for your informative and helpful repsonses. I think I may have to go for the intermediate option and buy the 7800GS. You are a credit to the site and upstanding and sensible members....

HAVE A PIE!

http://www.oxfordfrozenfoods.com/images/pie.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.
FFS I dont like lattice crust got any PUFF! pastry  .......
Dieselboy
Flicker of beans since 1986
+87|6850|Reading, Basingrad

joker3327 wrote:

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Thank you all for your informative and helpful repsonses. I think I may have to go for the intermediate option and buy the 7800GS. You are a credit to the site and upstanding and sensible members....

HAVE A PIE!

http://www.oxfordfrozenfoods.com/images/pie.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.
FFS I dont like lattice crust got any PUFF! pastry  .......
7800GS good buy.....don't forget to Ebay your other card though ....some sucker will buy it

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
SkoobyDu
'CLICK JOIN NOW'... OK lets go... BOOM!!!! =FFS=
+120|6861|Cheshire, UK

Dieselboy wrote:

joker3327 wrote:

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Thank you all for your informative and helpful repsonses. I think I may have to go for the intermediate option and buy the 7800GS. You are a credit to the site and upstanding and sensible members....

HAVE A PIE!

http://www.oxfordfrozenfoods.com/images/pie.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.
FFS I dont like lattice crust got any PUFF! pastry  .......
7800GS good buy.....don't forget to Ebay your other card though ....some sucker will buy it

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
pst... Wanna buy a catapult?

When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults?

Me speaka da lingo
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6846|Doncaster, UK
Noo, no puff pastry for you, I'll get knacked for derailing my own thread

Etien Masturbans, Semper Masturbans!

Last edited by DoctorFruitloop (2006-07-13 05:11:09)

mavrick 3399
EA GAMES PATCH EVERYTHING
+102|6841|Doncaster UK
i smelt pie so i turned
up any left???
DoctorFruitloop
Level 13 Wrongdoer
+515|6846|Doncaster, UK
All gone, sorry! There's some cheese around here somewhere but you're getting off topic. Please refrain from posting spam posts about cheese and pie and be more creative like a good little member. Thank you!
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6898|Cheshire. UK
Im an Up right Member ..well I think thats what he meant by fuckin Big Prick??



Etien Masturbans, Semper Masturbans!

and YES ...YES I AM ..... 

Last edited by joker3327 (2006-07-13 05:22:41)

Von_Dog
Member
+0|6815
how do you find out your fps?
mavrick 3399
EA GAMES PATCH EVERYTHING
+102|6841|Doncaster UK
sorry Doc but i blame you. 

you frogot to give me my medication and now all i can think about is PIE...


back on topic
if are wanta new pc and stuff then maybe just wait put up with the fact that you have to have settings on low, get more and more and more money saved up and buy/build an UBER computer so UBER even Chuck Norris would be scared of it.

if you just start poking around with it now , just changing little bits now and again you will end up replacing the stuff you just bought after a while, which would waste your hard earned money.

thats my $0.02 anyway

(my spelling is shocking)

Last edited by mavrick 3399 (2006-07-13 05:28:46)

mavrick 3399
EA GAMES PATCH EVERYTHING
+102|6841|Doncaster UK

Von_Dog wrote:

how do you find out your fps?
download a program called fraps really easy to use

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