Basically all you have said the entire time is that you wish Israel was stupid enough to go invade without first softening up Hezbollah and without conducting bombing raids.CameronPoe wrote:
Steve - you're catching the tail end of a very very long debate. If you want more sensible debating go to an earlier page of the thread where I talk about various aspects of middle east history, where I state several times that I don't condone what Hezbollah are doing and where I argue various other points in a serious manner. I've received over 30 karma on this thread alone. I wouldn't let this page and the last ruin the entire thread.fadedsteve wrote:
I hate to disagree with an Irishman, because half my family is Irish, but cmon guy. . .
Your killin' me here. . .
I don't 'turn a blind eye' - I'm very very well aware of them. Yes I do criticise Israel - what can I say? The fundamental injustice served on the people of Palestine in 1948 and the injustices between 1967 and today really get to me. Civilian deaths on both sides get to me but the initiation of all of this shit and the fundamental reasons behind all of this shit gets to me more.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Because I constantly object to the bad things that go on in the middle east. You seem to turn a blind eye to them because you are so intent on bashing Israel every chance you get.CameronPoe wrote:
WHy don't you start one? I've enough on my plate with this and the 'Faith requires ignorance' thread.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Where is your thread on the mistreatment of women in the middle east?
Injustices served upon the people of Palestine? Israel was offered more land originally than what they finally took. Then they were attacked by their arab neighbors and defeated them all and gained some land in the process. Im sorry if I dont join your pity party for the Palestinians who have turned down every chance for peace that was ever offered to them.CameronPoe wrote:
I don't 'turn a blind eye' - I'm very very well aware of them. Yes I do criticise Israel - what can I say? The fundamental injustice served on the people of Palestine in 1948 and the injustices between 1967 and today really get to me. Civilian deaths on both sides get to me but the initiation of all of this shit and the fundamental reasons behind all of this shit gets to me more.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Because I constantly object to the bad things that go on in the middle east. You seem to turn a blind eye to them because you are so intent on bashing Israel every chance you get.CameronPoe wrote:
WHy don't you start one? I've enough on my plate with this and the 'Faith requires ignorance' thread.
Israel can more than handle themselves when it comes to ground fighting. I don't imagine you think Hezbollah can do much damage to the Israeli armed forces. They have guns that can be fired around corners for christ sake.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Basically all you have said the entire time is that you wish Israel was stupid enough to go invade without first softening up Hezbollah and without conducting bombing raids.CameronPoe wrote:
Steve - you're catching the tail end of a very very long debate. If you want more sensible debating go to an earlier page of the thread where I talk about various aspects of middle east history, where I state several times that I don't condone what Hezbollah are doing and where I argue various other points in a serious manner. I've received over 30 karma on this thread alone. I wouldn't let this page and the last ruin the entire thread.fadedsteve wrote:
I hate to disagree with an Irishman, because half my family is Irish, but cmon guy. . .
Your killin' me here. . .
Maybe you havent heard of a little thing called IEDs? Hezbollah, just like all terrorists, are cowards who hide behind women and children. Many many more people would have died by a full fledged invasion.CameronPoe wrote:
Israel can more than handle themselves when it comes to ground fighting. I don't imagine you think Hezbollah can do much damage to the Israeli armed forces. They have guns that can be fired around corners for christ sake.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Basically all you have said the entire time is that you wish Israel was stupid enough to go invade without first softening up Hezbollah and without conducting bombing raids.CameronPoe wrote:
Steve - you're catching the tail end of a very very long debate. If you want more sensible debating go to an earlier page of the thread where I talk about various aspects of middle east history, where I state several times that I don't condone what Hezbollah are doing and where I argue various other points in a serious manner. I've received over 30 karma on this thread alone. I wouldn't let this page and the last ruin the entire thread.
The Israelis actually took more land in 1948 than had been touted for them in the 1948 UN resolution. Look it up. The maps are on this thread somewhere too.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Injustices served upon the people of Palestine? Israel was offered more land originally than what they finally took. Then they were attacked by their arab neighbors and defeated them all and gained some land in the process. Im sorry if I dont join your pity party for the Palestinians who have turned down every chance for peace that was ever offered to them.CameronPoe wrote:
I don't 'turn a blind eye' - I'm very very well aware of them. Yes I do criticise Israel - what can I say? The fundamental injustice served on the people of Palestine in 1948 and the injustices between 1967 and today really get to me. Civilian deaths on both sides get to me but the initiation of all of this shit and the fundamental reasons behind all of this shit gets to me more.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Because I constantly object to the bad things that go on in the middle east. You seem to turn a blind eye to them because you are so intent on bashing Israel every chance you get.
Hey WHO CARES!!!
Bananahands, he is WRONG! and thats okay! he can be wrong and still argue his wrong points!
See, if the terrorists win, there sure as hell wouldnt be forums like these in their regims!!
If they caught me supporting israel right now, I would get killed FOR SURE!! If you support them and their fight, thats on you, but I am done with this forum because either way, WE ARENT THE POLICY MAKERS!!!
TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR CONGRESSMAN!!! And if your a Euro guy, keep enjoying your bankrupt socialist economies under terrible liberal policies!!
Bananahands, he is WRONG! and thats okay! he can be wrong and still argue his wrong points!
See, if the terrorists win, there sure as hell wouldnt be forums like these in their regims!!
If they caught me supporting israel right now, I would get killed FOR SURE!! If you support them and their fight, thats on you, but I am done with this forum because either way, WE ARENT THE POLICY MAKERS!!!
TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR CONGRESSMAN!!! And if your a Euro guy, keep enjoying your bankrupt socialist economies under terrible liberal policies!!
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Again with the 'if the terrorists win'. Laughable, just laughable.fadedsteve wrote:
Hey WHO CARES!!!
Bananahands, he is WRONG! and thats okay! he can be wrong and still argue his wrong points!
See, if the terrorists win, there sure as hell wouldnt be forums like these in their regims!!
If they caught me supporting israel right now, I would get killed FOR SURE!! If you support them and their fight, thats on you, but I am done with this forum because either way, WE ARENT THE POLICY MAKERS!!!
TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR CONGRESSMAN!!! And if your a Euro guy, keep enjoying your bankrupt socialist economies under terrible liberal policies!!
PS Ireland has one of the best performing economies IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Hurrah for socialist economies!!!! WOOOOOO!. Nice national debt by the way - China owns your ass!!!
That's been your point all along? Shit, well excuse the fuck outta me...ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:
actually dumbshit my point all along has been that israel attacking lebanon isnt them attacking a small sect or one resistance group but lebanon itself harboring terrorist groups not only in the south but in the govt as well. and just so you can take that dick out of your canadien mouth..
amal movement 14 seats
hezbollah 23 seats
al-Hizb al-Qawmi 4
"other" 4
=45
45/128 = 35% dumbfuck
oh ok they are only 35% percent terrorist thats hardly prevalent enough to be considered a lebonese problem
dumbass...
Obviously you need help articulating yourself if you think anybody would read that and not think you were talking about Hezbollah. Either that or you're just a fucking child who can't accept being proved wrong. Mmm, yeah. I'm gonna go with that one.ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:
28 members in parliamentCameronPoe wrote:
Hezbollah represenet A SEGMENT OF LEBANESE SOCIETY. Not the Lebanese as a whole. Hezbollah are a minority group. They only have two ministers in office.
Anyway, I notice you predictably decided to go with the higher of the two wiki numbers. Turns out that the lower one was right. Too bad for you and all the other "they're all terrorists" types. So to recap...
Harakat Amal 15 seats
Hezbollah 14 seats
al-Hizb al-Qawmi 2 seats
Others 4
= 35 total for the whole coalition
35/128 = 27%
Hezbollah (not the majority partner in the coalition)
=14/128 = 11% of the Lebanese parliament
At which point I will quote from an earlier post of yours...
Hmm... So we've got some of this 11% of parliament not even doing teh terrism, but building schools and shit. Now, are you starting to smell what it is you're peddling?ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:
Hezbollah is an active participant in the political life and processes of Lebanon (much in the same way as Hamas in Palestinian communities). The organization has been involved in activities like building schools, clinics, and hospitals.
Seriously, you should stick to hysterically-emotional-outburst type posts and leave things like facts and numbers to others. It's not your strong point.
Lol at Ireland. As for our national debt you can thank Clinton for the recession. We are well ahead of schedule for doing with our debt entirely. China dosent own anything either. They are still mostly a third world country.CameronPoe wrote:
Again with the 'if the terrorists win'. Laughable, just laughable.fadedsteve wrote:
Hey WHO CARES!!!
Bananahands, he is WRONG! and thats okay! he can be wrong and still argue his wrong points!
See, if the terrorists win, there sure as hell wouldnt be forums like these in their regims!!
If they caught me supporting israel right now, I would get killed FOR SURE!! If you support them and their fight, thats on you, but I am done with this forum because either way, WE ARENT THE POLICY MAKERS!!!
TAKE IT UP WITH YOUR CONGRESSMAN!!! And if your a Euro guy, keep enjoying your bankrupt socialist economies under terrible liberal policies!!
PS Ireland has one of the best performing economies IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Hurrah for socialist economies!!!! WOOOOOO!. Nice national debt by the way - China owns your ass!!!
In no small thanks to the European Gravy train which has now all but dried up due to the recent EU Member state expansion. Didn't see Ireland overperforming before they got the old begging bowl out!CameronPoe wrote:
PS Ireland has one of the best performing economies IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Hurrah for socialist economies!!!! WOOOOOO!.
Which has to do with where they spend money, not how much they have.-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
They are still mostly a third world country.
gdp 2003
ireland 52nd in the world 118 billion
china 2nd 5.7 trillion
usa 10.4 trillion
that debt talk is tired .. just wishfull thinking ..america is stronger than ever
ireland 52nd in the world 118 billion
china 2nd 5.7 trillion
usa 10.4 trillion
that debt talk is tired .. just wishfull thinking ..america is stronger than ever
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I wonder who we have to thank for that - our neighbours across the water maybe? Oh I can really feel that recession biting since the gravy train pulled away!! Ouch! I think I need to go for a round of golf to relax.=LSR= EddieNI wrote:
In no small thanks to the European Gravy train which has now all but dried up due to the recent EU Member state expansion. Didn't see Ireland overperforming before they got the old begging bowl out!CameronPoe wrote:
PS Ireland has one of the best performing economies IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Hurrah for socialist economies!!!! WOOOOOO!.
China has what. . . . 3 billion people, now thats ALOT of socialist medicare benefits!!!! Not too mention all the PAID VACATION!! They are still communist, dont forget that. . .
The Jews own Europe!!! LOL who do you think runs all the major banks
The Jews own Europe!!! LOL who do you think runs all the major banks
Be sure and drive there on one of those roads funded by the EU (oh yes, I forgot, you can't avoid them can you) and have a nice round on the once again EU funded golf course. It's easy to brag about an economy when someone else is paying the billsCameronPoe wrote:
I wonder who we have to thank for that - our neighbours across the water maybe? Oh I can really feel that recession biting since the gravy train pulled away!! Ouch! I think I need to go for a round of golf to relax.=LSR= EddieNI wrote:
In no small thanks to the European Gravy train which has now all but dried up due to the recent EU Member state expansion. Didn't see Ireland overperforming before they got the old begging bowl out!CameronPoe wrote:
PS Ireland has one of the best performing economies IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Hurrah for socialist economies!!!! WOOOOOO!.
More like 1.3 billion or somewhere around there. The point is that they are growing to fast for their own good and that soon the people of China will be asking for new freedoms. Communism never works and it will die out in China before long.
Hmm population of Ireland - 4m. Population of USA - 300m. Population China - 1bn.ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:
gdp 2003
ireland 52nd in the world 118 billion
china 2nd 5.7 trillion
usa 10.4 trillion
that debt talk is tired .. just wishfull thinking ..america is stronger than ever
Poor palestinians, how about poor irish. . .Why dont you talk about how we have been oppressed by the British for years. You seem to sympathize with the palestinians. . . .I would love to hear what you say about northern Ireland.
Those roads are pretty sweet. Cheers EU - we are forever in your debt.=LSR= EddieNI wrote:
Be sure and drive there on one of those roads funded by the EU (oh yes, I forgot, you can't avoid them can you) and have a nice round on the once again EU funded golf course. It's easy to brag about an economy when someone else is paying the billsCameronPoe wrote:
I wonder who we have to thank for that - our neighbours across the water maybe? Oh I can really feel that recession biting since the gravy train pulled away!! Ouch! I think I need to go for a round of golf to relax.=LSR= EddieNI wrote:
In no small thanks to the European Gravy train which has now all but dried up due to the recent EU Member state expansion. Didn't see Ireland overperforming before they got the old begging bowl out!
Typical jealous European.CameronPoe wrote:
Hmm population of Ireland - 4m. Population of USA - 300m. Population China - 1bn.ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:
gdp 2003
ireland 52nd in the world 118 billion
china 2nd 5.7 trillion
usa 10.4 trillion
that debt talk is tired .. just wishfull thinking ..america is stronger than ever
THat would be what one would describe as a 'thread derail'.fadedsteve wrote:
Poor palestinians, how about poor irish. . .Why dont you talk about how we have been oppressed by the British for years. You seem to sympathize with the palestinians. . . .I would love to hear what you say about northern Ireland.
Poor Irish my ass! That's a whole other can of worms that!
USA is a self made country and always will be!!
WE STILL SUPPORT THE ENTREPRENUR and the mentality behind that economic mindset!! Our economy flourishes while the europeans remain steady but ultimately stagnant.
lol cmon give me a little tast of how you view the british occupation of northern ireland!!!!!!
WE STILL SUPPORT THE ENTREPRENUR and the mentality behind that economic mindset!! Our economy flourishes while the europeans remain steady but ultimately stagnant.
lol cmon give me a little tast of how you view the british occupation of northern ireland!!!!!!
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Jealous of what? According to 'The Economist' magazine Ireland has the highest quality of life in the world (and I agree) and the second highest GDP per capita in Europe. Why would I be jealous of anywhere else?-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:
Typical jealous European.CameronPoe wrote:
Hmm population of Ireland - 4m. Population of USA - 300m. Population China - 1bn.ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:
gdp 2003
ireland 52nd in the world 118 billion
china 2nd 5.7 trillion
usa 10.4 trillion
that debt talk is tired .. just wishfull thinking ..america is stronger than ever