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Sure, but it's not the only thing that teaches morals.<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
Believe me i dont need a history lesson. Im not a Big follower of the Bible, But one thing is for sure, It teaches MORALS, something half the people on this site LACK. The way some think Sickens me. Sickens me because Immoral Idiots like these are the future leaders of countries.
I Know. Also, The Extreme interpretation of the Koran doesnt teach ANY morals Like the Original. Its been rewritten to give the terrorists some sort of reasoning behind there socalled holy war.Bubbalo wrote:
Sure, but it's not the only thing that teaches morals.<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
Believe me i dont need a history lesson. Im not a Big follower of the Bible, But one thing is for sure, It teaches MORALS, something half the people on this site LACK. The way some think Sickens me. Sickens me because Immoral Idiots like these are the future leaders of countries.
A) Final answer LOLBubbalo wrote:
I'm confused as to what you're saying. Are you saying:
a) The extremist re-write of the classic Koran teaches no morals
or
b) An extremist reading of the classic Koran teaches no morals
or
c) I'm a nutter, and you've said something completely different.
ofcouse its not! im sure if iraqi civilian see rockets launchers near his home he will report about it! what is not happenings in lebanon! and asking again! WHY?Bubbalo wrote:
The terrorists are hiding among civilians in Iraq same as in Lebanon.
So then what did you say?<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
A) Final answer LOL
Reaching!Bubbalo wrote:
That's a cheap shot. Either debate or don't, but don't go insulting people just because you don't like what they say.Except that in this analogy the ball bearing is the ping pong ball, as a ball bearing is smaller and lighter than a nail.rawls2 wrote:
Getting shot with a ping pong ball traveling at 3500 ft/sec as opposed to bieng shot with a bowling ball at 3500 feet/sec. What would you rather have happen to you?
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You are being quite naive if you believe that. LOLLisik wrote:
ofcouse its not! im sure if iraqi civilian see rockets launchers near his home he will report about it! what is not happenings in lebanon! and asking again! WHY?Bubbalo wrote:
The terrorists are hiding among civilians in Iraq same as in Lebanon.
Yes, Silence = consent. If they knew what was going on and did nothing they are just as guilty as Hezbollah.Bubbalo wrote:
So now the Lebanese deserve it because they aren't militarily strong enough?
I have no ideal what your trying to prove regarding bombs, nails, bearrings, shrapnel? What was your original point?Bubbalo wrote:
All anti-personnel explosives that I know of have shrapnel, a fragmentation grenade being one example.
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I think you're missing one fundamental point here. Lebanon DOES NOT RECOGNISE THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL. It's a bit hard to ask a nation that doesn't technically exist from helping you out with a problem you have!!rawls wrote:
I think the Israeli Lisik has a point. Lebanon should of asked for help when they saw this militant group forming in its country. Or did they want Hezbollah to form so it could attack Israel with out getting its hands dirty. Lebanon is ultimately responsible for what goes on its country. It is also responsible for the conflict going on now.
Well there you go. They better start recognizing Israel because Israel is tearing them up.CameronPoe wrote:
I think you're missing one fundamental point here. Lebanon DOES NOT RECOGNISE THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL. It's a bit hard to ask a nation that doesn't technically exist from helping you out with a problem you have!!rawls wrote:
I think the Israeli Lisik has a point. Lebanon should of asked for help when they saw this militant group forming in its country. Or did they want Hezbollah to form so it could attack Israel with out getting its hands dirty. Lebanon is ultimately responsible for what goes on its country. It is also responsible for the conflict going on now.
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The world MINUS THE MAJORITY OF MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS. That is the world MINUS MOST OF ISRAELS NEIGHBOURS (the people who've had to suffer at their hands as it were). Also if Israel want to talk of how the world recognises them then maybe they should recognise the requirements set down by the rest of the world on them to remove themselves fully from the illegally occupied territories of Palestine.rawls wrote:
Well there you go. They better start recognizing Israel because Israel is tearing them up.CameronPoe wrote:
I think you're missing one fundamental point here. Lebanon DOES NOT RECOGNISE THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL. It's a bit hard to ask a nation that doesn't technically exist from helping you out with a problem you have!!rawls wrote:
I think the Israeli Lisik has a point. Lebanon should of asked for help when they saw this militant group forming in its country. Or did they want Hezbollah to form so it could attack Israel with out getting its hands dirty. Lebanon is ultimately responsible for what goes on its country. It is also responsible for the conflict going on now.
BTW- Thats no excuse. The world recognizes Israel so should Lebonan.
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Surely the UN would have passed a resolution, I can't believe they haven't passed one yet....LOLrawls2 wrote:
What came first the chicken or the egg?
Thats what I see going on here in this forum. Israel started it, no, the other guys did. What is it going to be? You cant have it both ways. Is Israel a state or not? If they are, they have every right to engage their neighbors in battle when the neighbors are commiting acts of terror. If they are not a state, why are they still there? Surely the UN would have passed a resolution to rid Palestine of all Israelis.
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Newsflash: Israeli soldiers have been shooting unarmed civilians for many years but I guess the US media doesn't cover that in much detail. LOLrawls2 wrote:
So what is the Gaza strip and West Bank if not Palestinian territory. They have a government now. What else do they need. Every Palestinian should put down their AK's and RPG's pick up a shovel and start to build their country in the land they have now. If Israel were to see that and no more attacks, garanteed Israel will aid Palestine in its rebuilding. As long as Palestinian youths turn to hamas for guidance there will not be a Palestine. I highly doubt Israeli's army would shoot unarmed Palestinians if all Palestinians were unarmed.
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You didnt get my point. If ALL Palestinians gave up their arms and picked up shovels for the purpose of building airports and sea ports the trade routes would follow. Checkpoints would dissapear and peace would ensue.CameronPoe wrote:
Newsflash: Israeli soldiers have been shooting unarmed civilians for many years but I guess the US media doesn't cover that in much detail. LOLrawls2 wrote:
So what is the Gaza strip and West Bank if not Palestinian territory. They have a government now. What else do they need. Every Palestinian should put down their AK's and RPG's pick up a shovel and start to build their country in the land they have now. If Israel were to see that and no more attacks, garanteed Israel will aid Palestine in its rebuilding. As long as Palestinian youths turn to hamas for guidance there will not be a Palestine. I highly doubt Israeli's army would shoot unarmed Palestinians if all Palestinians were unarmed.
THey have a government now - what else do they need? LOL. How about trade routes with other countries, the right to a seaport, an airport, the absence of militray checkpoints on roads all throughout the west bank and gaza? It's hilarious. Have you seen maps of the west bank recently? Check them up - Israel are taking it over by stealth - dotting the entire area with settlements, making a proper Palestinian nation completely unviable. Did you ever think Israel should comply with the UN resolutions and set an example maybe?
I invite you to watch some or all of this video. Not many US citizens ever see this side of the story:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 4384920696
They have NO REASON WHATSOEVER to trust Israel with respect to whatever promises said country might make (if any). You seem not to understand that Israel have an expansionist policy with respect to the West Bank - having stated that Ariel, Ma'ale Adumim and other settlements will remain eternal parts of Israel (including East Jerusalem). That doesn't sound like a good deal for the Palestinians. When I commented on seaports/airports you didn't realise that Israel are the ones preventing them from building such things - they bombed Gaza airport not so long ago: leaving Palestinians with little or no access to the outside world.rawls2 wrote:
You didnt get my point. If ALL Palestinians gave up their arms and picked up shovels for the purpose of building airports and sea ports the trade routes would follow. Checkpoints would dissapear and peace would ensue.CameronPoe wrote:
Newsflash: Israeli soldiers have been shooting unarmed civilians for many years but I guess the US media doesn't cover that in much detail. LOLrawls2 wrote:
So what is the Gaza strip and West Bank if not Palestinian territory. They have a government now. What else do they need. Every Palestinian should put down their AK's and RPG's pick up a shovel and start to build their country in the land they have now. If Israel were to see that and no more attacks, garanteed Israel will aid Palestine in its rebuilding. As long as Palestinian youths turn to hamas for guidance there will not be a Palestine. I highly doubt Israeli's army would shoot unarmed Palestinians if all Palestinians were unarmed.
THey have a government now - what else do they need? LOL. How about trade routes with other countries, the right to a seaport, an airport, the absence of militray checkpoints on roads all throughout the west bank and gaza? It's hilarious. Have you seen maps of the west bank recently? Check them up - Israel are taking it over by stealth - dotting the entire area with settlements, making a proper Palestinian nation completely unviable. Did you ever think Israel should comply with the UN resolutions and set an example maybe?
I invite you to watch some or all of this video. Not many US citizens ever see this side of the story:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 4384920696
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Why would Israel let them build those things now? So Palestinians can have a place to import weapons and fighters. The video you provided starts out by saying in 1967 Israel went to war with 3 countries. If those countries wouldnt have planned an invasion of Israel Israel wouldnt have had to capture the land they did. If Palestine has no reason to trust Israel why then should Israel trust the Palestinians?CameronPoe wrote:
They have NO REASON WHATSOEVER to trust Israel with respect to whatever promises said country might make (if any). You seem not to understand that Israel have an expansionist policy with respect to the West Bank - having stated that Ariel, Ma'ale Adumim and other settlements will remain eternal parts of Israel (including East Jerusalem). That doesn't sound like a good deal for the Palestinians. When I commented on seaports/airports you didn't realise that Israel are the ones preventing them from building such things - they bombed Gaza airport not so long ago: leaving Palestinians with little or no access to the outside world.rawls2 wrote:
You didnt get my point. If ALL Palestinians gave up their arms and picked up shovels for the purpose of building airports and sea ports the trade routes would follow. Checkpoints would dissapear and peace would ensue.CameronPoe wrote:
Newsflash: Israeli soldiers have been shooting unarmed civilians for many years but I guess the US media doesn't cover that in much detail. LOL
THey have a government now - what else do they need? LOL. How about trade routes with other countries, the right to a seaport, an airport, the absence of militray checkpoints on roads all throughout the west bank and gaza? It's hilarious. Have you seen maps of the west bank recently? Check them up - Israel are taking it over by stealth - dotting the entire area with settlements, making a proper Palestinian nation completely unviable. Did you ever think Israel should comply with the UN resolutions and set an example maybe?
I invite you to watch some or all of this video. Not many US citizens ever see this side of the story:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 4384920696
Therein lies the problem. That's the proverbial shit sandwich. I am pro-Palestinian because my belief is that they are the people who were fundamentally wronged (in 1948) and have been oppressed ever since. If Israel wish to be seen as a nation of common standing with the likes of other western nations then they need to start acting with decorum, morality and reasonableness. Since the creation of the state they have been unnecessarily harsh on the Palestinians. They need to kill this vicious cycle with kindness because they are the only ones with the power to do so. Whatever kind of 'government' you think Palestine have I need to inform you that it is a government in name only - thanks mainly to Israel.rawls2 wrote:
Why would Israel let them build those things now? So Palestinians can have a place to import weapons and fighters. The video you provided starts out by saying in 1967 Israel went to war with 3 countries. If those countries wouldnt have planned an invasion of Israel Israel wouldnt have had to capture the land they did. If Palestine has no reason to trust Israel why then should Israel trust the Palestinians?