rawls
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rawls2 wrote:

What he said:

HM1{N} wrote:

Israel lived up to NONE of it.  They have broken every law, thumbed their nose at the UN and the world, and continue their Zionist agenda.  If they didn't have the backing of the U.S. do you think there would be an Israel?  I don't, the rest of the world would have annihalated them...

Get a clue, Israel doesn't give a rat's ass about the UN, they never think anything through, all they do is kill civilians and take their land/water/resources...
What he meant:
"Fuck the Us and its allies. Long live Hezbollah, Long live AlQaeda, Long live Hamas, Long live the IRA, long live the PLO, long live jihadist all over the world!!!!!!
LILILILILILILILI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HM1{N} wrote:

Get a clue, Israel doesn't give a rat's ass about the UN
Neither does the United States or practically anyone for that matter ..except maybe France. The United Nations are the most ineffectual group of blowhards , they serve little to no purpose.

HM1{N} wrote:

If they didn't have the backing of the U.S. do you think there would be an Israel?  I don't, the rest of the world would have annihalated them...
Im assuming by "the rest of the world" youre refering to the arab world .. because noone else would oppose them militarily. Israel exists becuase they are experts of military stratagy repelling multiple arab coalition attacks in 1948 war 7 day war and yom kippur war. Not only winning but in a fashion that is amazing.. routs against insurmountable odds. The fact alone that Palestine with foreign aid has attempted to destroy Israel over and over is reason enough to deal with them in a "heavy-handed" manner.

Most people seem incapable of looking at the larger picture over time. Things have evolved to this from their incessant unwillingness to accept their defeats. Thats not the least admirable trait i could think of but when they commit to futile attacks that accomplish nothing then i can hardly respect them.
Bubbalo
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ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:

Neither does the United States or practically anyone for that matter ..except maybe France. The United Nations are the most ineffectual group of blowhards , they serve little to no purpose.
You ever think that's maybe because of the US?
Cybargs
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/, look at the picks in right hand side... the hellaboza are not just using normal rockets... but BALL BEARING! nowonder israel is pissed...
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-=NHB=- Bananahands
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/, look at the picks in right hand side... the hellaboza are not just using normal rockets... but BALL BEARING! nowonder israel is pissed...
I hope your not being sarcastic. Ball bearings will tear you up.

Last edited by -=NHB=- Bananahands (2006-07-22 01:46:52)

ATG
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Cyborg is never far from right, and if he's sarcastic, there is wisdom therein anyway.
Bubbalo
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-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:

I hope your not being sarcastic. Ball bearings will tear you up.
WTF are you on?  Ball bearings don't "tear you up".  The issue with them is that they're difficult to find and remove.
<[onex]>Headstone
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Bubbalo wrote:

ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ wrote:

Neither does the United States or practically anyone for that matter ..except maybe France. The United Nations are the most ineffectual group of blowhards , they serve little to no purpose.
You ever think that's maybe because of the US?
The US has never been cought in ANY scandal that the UN has been involved in. So please Find another defense for the UN.
HM1{N}
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rawls wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

What he said:

HM1{N} wrote:

Israel lived up to NONE of it.  They have broken every law, thumbed their nose at the UN and the world, and continue their Zionist agenda.  If they didn't have the backing of the U.S. do you think there would be an Israel?  I don't, the rest of the world would have annihalated them...

Get a clue, Israel doesn't give a rat's ass about the UN, they never think anything through, all they do is kill civilians and take their land/water/resources...
What he meant:
"Fuck the Us and its allies. Long live Hezbollah, Long live AlQaeda, Long live Hamas, Long live the IRA, long live the PLO, long live jihadist all over the world!!!!!!
LILILILILILILILI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't ever put words in my mouth or try to define what I say...you obviously aren't intelligent enough to do so.
<[onex]>Headstone
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jonsimon wrote:

-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:

jonsimon wrote:


Psh, who cares about the dutch. And as far as the EU, the same article in wikipedia explicitly states the EU does not consider hizbollah a terrorist organization.

How about, Israel illegally occupied much of southern lebannon for 80 years and sparked the lebannese civil war? Then Israel allegedly pulled out for 6 years before invading again today?
How about Lebanon not being able to secure their own territory and insure that terrorists, such as Hezbollah, can not use their own country for the staging of terrorist attacks. Lebanon should have sent their own troops to the south to secure the area or asked for more UN forces. Now Israel will have to clear the area out for them.
You people are so hard-headed. Lebannon cannot remove hizbollah because HIZBOLLAH IS PART OF THE NATIONSTATE LEBANNON. Besides, it was Israeli occupation that inspired hizbollah, Israel is the indirect cause of hizbollah!
WRONG. Inaction by the UN for years against terrorist states, and lebanons Weak ass Govt is the reason for The Hezbolla. You know something is wrong when the Govt soldiers said That theres NO WAY they are going to fight the fight Hezbolla has started. Smart guys i say. They dont want to get Killed.
<[onex]>Headstone
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HM1{N} wrote:

rawls wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

What he said:

What he meant:
"Fuck the Us and its allies. Long live Hezbollah, Long live AlQaeda, Long live Hamas, Long live the IRA, long live the PLO, long live jihadist all over the world!!!!!!
LILILILILILILILI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't ever put words in my mouth or try to define what I say...you obviously aren't intelligent enough to do so.
In response to your original post, The Jews were the ones displaced, They got there RIGHTFUL land back. The Arabs Were the occupiers. According to the bible, the Jews were there first. I dont think the Rest of the world would have annihilated Israel if the US didnt back them, Maybe Uncompromising Arab states might have, but there ARE countries that do Understand Israel has a right to exist on there Own ancestral lands.
Bubbalo
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Oh, well the Bible is a very unbiased and trustworthy source.  It's recorded the rise and fall of the dinosaurs and everything.......oh, wait..............
|AIA| DAS
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jonsimon wrote:

|AIA| DAS wrote:

jonsimon wrote:


Psh, who cares about the dutch. And as far as the EU, the same article in wikipedia explicitly states the EU does not consider hizbollah a terrorist organization.

How about, Israel illegally occupied much of southern lebannon for 80 years and sparked the lebannese civil war? Then Israel allegedly pulled out for 6 years before invading again today?
Allegedy pulled out? What do you think they were there the whole time?  The "opression" I am asking about is during the interem after they pulled out till now...
What does the interim have to do with anything?
Now you are just evading, if you don't have an answer, you concede the arguement, you said Israel has been Opressing the lebanese for years.  I'll let you have during the occupation, but after they left Lebanon, there was no OPRESSION.
jonsimon
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|AIA| DAS wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

|AIA| DAS wrote:

Allegedy pulled out? What do you think they were there the whole time?  The "opression" I am asking about is during the interem after they pulled out till now...
What does the interim have to do with anything?
Now you are just evading, if you don't have an answer, you concede the arguement, you said Israel has been Opressing the lebanese for years.  I'll let you have during the occupation, but after they left Lebanon, there was no OPRESSION.
Yeah, and I specifically referred to the occupation, so it looks like you just agreed with me. And don't give me "you lose for evading" I've seen you change topics suddenly without counterpoints.

Last edited by jonsimon (2006-07-22 06:39:30)

BallisticallyYours
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DoctorFruitloop wrote:

Isn't it great. You've got half the interested parties clammering that the US, UK and western world should keep their noses out of other people's countries, and then the other half complaining that you can't abandon us to fend for ourselves.

No win situation as far as I'm concerned. Whatever we do we're not gonna be thanked for it and just end up with some screaming looney bombing another city or two.

Right now, a nuke sounds pretty good.
Agreed. Pull out and bomb away.
|AIA| DAS
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Bubbalo wrote:

Oh, well the Bible is a very unbiased and trustworthy source.  It's recorded the rise and fall of the dinosaurs and everything.......oh, wait..............
Oh yes, and the Bible also missed the Dodo Bird Extinction.  You Bubbalo are a smash & grabber.  Full of one liners stiring the pot.  If you don't have a good arguement to add to the thread then...Shut your Gob!



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Bubbalo
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So, the Bible is now a valid argument?  Well then, I guess we can take Jews being heathens as a given.............
HM1{N}
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rawls2 wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Everything you mentioned has been tried. Everything.

Ken Jenning's suggestions -
"Take out Hezbollah! 
If they can't disseminate between civilians and Hezbollah, put pressure on Lebanon to pressure Hezbollah.  Offer assistance. 
Go to the U.N.
Use the international forum to ask for assistance
Use the international forum to apply political and economic pressure on Lebanon."


Anybody else out there agree with me? Sanctions, diplomacy, assistance....it has been tried. It really has. Come on Ken dont give up so easy. What else could you come up with?
Israel lived up to NONE of it.  They have broken every law, thumbed their nose at the UN and the world, and continue their Zionist agenda.  If they didn't have the backing of the U.S. do you think there would be an Israel?  I don't, the rest of the world would have annihalated them...

Get a clue, Israel doesn't give a rat's ass about the UN, they never think anything through, all they do is kill civilians and take their land/water/resources...
Thank you for responding but the question wasnt answered. Ok ill ask you. What would have been an appropriate response from Israel regarding the kidnapping of two soldiers?
diplomacy.  They were kidnapped because Israel renigged on the prisoner exchanges with Lebanon.  Lebanese prisoners have been sitting in Israeli jails for almost 30 years, prisoners that were supposed to have been released many, many, many years ago.

I ask you this: if you had family members unjustly imprisoned, and an agreement was reached for their release (which your side upheld but the other side didn't), what would you do after this many years?

It's always the same thing with Israel: give them what they want or else, and then lie about what they will give you in return (not live up to their promise).

Last edited by HM1{N} (2006-07-22 06:55:31)

HM1{N}
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<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

rawls wrote:


Don't ever put words in my mouth or try to define what I say...you obviously aren't intelligent enough to do so.
In response to your original post, The Jews were the ones displaced, They got there RIGHTFUL land back. The Arabs Were the occupiers. According to the bible, the Jews were there first. I dont think the Rest of the world would have annihilated Israel if the US didnt back them, Maybe Uncompromising Arab states might have, but there ARE countries that do Understand Israel has a right to exist on there Own ancestral lands.
Excuse you, the bible was written THOUSANDS of years AFTER rightful claim to the land took place.  The land was never "originally" the Jews.  I'm not going to give another history lesson here, I suggest you do your homework.

Oh, and as a Christian myself, you can't use the bible as the definitive source of information.  It was written with an agenda in mind.
rawls
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HM1{N} wrote:

Don't ever put words in my mouth or try to define what I say...you obviously aren't intelligent enough to do so.
Are you going to tell on me oooh! Beside I feel my post was clever and inciteful. Ball bearings travelling at 3500 ft/sec will tear you to shreds.
Bubbalo
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As I've said before, no.  They'll become lodged and cause all sorts of problems for doctors.
CameronPoe
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rawls wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

rawls wrote:


Don't ever put words in my mouth or try to define what I say...you obviously aren't intelligent enough to do so.
Are you going to tell on me oooh! Beside I feel my post was clever and inciteful. Ball bearings travelling at 3500 ft/sec will tear you to shreds.
What the fuck does the IRA have to do with any of this?
rawls
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Bubbalo wrote:

-=NHB=- Bananahands wrote:

I hope your not being sarcastic. Ball bearings will tear you up.
WTF are you on?  Ball bearings don't "tear you up".  The issue with them is that they're difficult to find and remove.
Dude, do you need a physics lesson?
Bubbalo
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No, I don't.  The advantage of ball bearings is that they're small and hard to find.
|AIA| DAS
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jonsimon wrote:

|AIA| DAS wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

What does the interim have to do with anything?
Now you are just evading, if you don't have an answer, you concede the arguement, you said Israel has been Opressing the lebanese for years.  I'll let you have during the occupation, but after they left Lebanon, there was no OPRESSION.
Yeah, and I specifically referred to the occupation, so it looks like you just agreed with me. And don't give me "you lose for evading" I've seen you change topics suddenly without counterpoints.
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