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CameronPoe wrote:

delta4bravo*nl* wrote:

I was supposed to fly to Israel today to do some work in the northern Israel........ my insurance Company called me this morning 30 before flight and forbid me to go.....
This really sucks I'm missing a shit load of money now.

You can say whatever you want, but every time there is a couple of months of peace, and who starts the crap over and over again, the fucking Arabs.
I really hope they are getting there balls blown off this time.... its something they deserve. For starting the shit time and time again.

Fuck  ALL ARABABS AND GO ISRAEL

More's the pity you aren't going to northern Israel, you racist.

Lisik wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

You say to fuck all Arabs and then claim not to be a racist?

Lisik wrote:

YEP! When they first arrived, they was attacked by - Egypt, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq - so as u sayd.. they cease to be innocent civilians!

Right after they killed innocent Palestinians.  Or did you think those refugee camps sprung out of nowhere?

who killed innocent palestinians? survived after ww2 jews? haha that was funny joke i supouse to note!

Lisik wrote:

yes i can repet! FUCK ALL ARABS! KILL THEM! FUCK THEM FUCKING OFF! u have problem with it? i think 55 years of terror against israel - gives to israel right to hate arabs!

aardfrith wrote:

HM1{N} wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

LOL you act as if the Syrian Government is doing anything and everything to stop Hezbolah and stop open support from Iran for terror strikes . Please . Isreal has been under constant attack and in the iron sights of weapons every day since the 50's . One thing about Arabs is they never accaept loss . One thing about Isrealis is they stick together to the end . Just deal with it and STFU . You don't live there .

You really need to get your facts straight.  In the '50's Ariel Sharon massacred people without provocation.  Qibya comes to mind:

As commander of the notorious Unit 101, Sharon led attacks on Palestinian villages in which women and children were killed.

The massacre in the West Bank village of Qibya, on October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. His troops blew up 45 houses and 69 Palestinian civilians -- about half of them women and children -- were killed.

There was also Dar Yassin where Ariel Sharon and his troops murdered over 350 people, mostly women and children.

Since the 1950's Israel has been the single largest aggressor, stealing, murdering and displacing people to gain land.  Ariel Sharon was at the forefront of this movement and today is known as a criminal for Crimes Against Humanity.

I have no more sympathy for Israel, the holocaust was bad and wrong, but Israel has elevated itself to the same position as Nazi Germany IMO.  When I say Israel is the country with most sanctions/resolutions against it by UN, I am not exaggerating:

UN Resolutions Against Israel, 1955-1992
1. Resolution 106: "... 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"
2. Resolution 111: "...'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3. Resolution 127: "...'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem"
4. Resolution 162: "...'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5. Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6. Resolution 228: "...'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7. Resolution 237: "...'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8. Resolution 248: "... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9. Resolution 250: "... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10. Resolution 251: "... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11. Resolution 252: "...'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12. Resolution 256: "... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation""
13. Resolution 259: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14. Resolution 262: "...'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15. Resolution 265: "... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16. Resolution 267: "...'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17. Resolution 270: "...'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18. Resolution 271: "...'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN  resolutions on Jerusalem"
19. Resolution 279: "...'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20. Resolution 280: "....'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon"
21. Resolution 285: "...'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22. Resolution 298: "...'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23. Resolution 313: "...'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24. Resolution 316: "...'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25. Resolution 317: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26. Resolution 332: "...'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27. Resolution 337: "...'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty"
28. Resolution 347: "...'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29. Resolution 425: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30. Resolution 427: "...'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon'
31. Resolution 444: "...'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32. Resolution 446: "...'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33. Resolution 450: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34. Resolution 452: "...'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35. Resolution 465: "...'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program"
36. Resolution 467: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon"
37. Resolution 468: "...'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38. Resolution 469: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" 39. Resolution 471: "... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40. Resolution 476: "... 'reiterates' that Israel's claims to Jerusalem are 'null and void'"
41. Resolution 478: "...'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'"
42. Resolution 484: "...'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43. Resolution 487: "...'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility"
44. Resolution 497: "...'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45. Resolution 498: "...'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46. Resolution 501: "...'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47. Resolution 509: "...'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48. Resolution 515: "...'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49. Resolution 517: "...'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50. Resolution 518: "...'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51. Resolution 520: "...'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut"
52. Resolution 573: "...'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53. Resolution 587: "...'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54. Resolution 592: "...'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" 55. Resolution 605: "...'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56. Resolution 607: "...'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57. Resolution 608: "...'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58. Resolution 636: "...'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59. Resolution 641: "...'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians
60. Resolution 672: "...'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61. Resolution 673: "...'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62. Resolution 681: "...'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63. Resolution 694: "...'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64. Resolution 726: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians
65. Resolution 799: "...'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
 
The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism:
1. ....condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria..."
2. ....affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections..."
3. ...condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians..."
4. ....called for self-determination of Palestinian people..."
5. ....deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations..."
6. ....affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people..."
7. ....endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people..."
8. ....demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights..."
9. ....condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations..."
10. ....condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem..."
11. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Lebanon..."
12. ....urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut..."
14. ....urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon..."
15. ....condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace..."
16. ....deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal..."
17. ....condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression...."
18. ....denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories..."
19. ....deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon..."
20. ....deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites..."
21. ....condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane..."
22. ....deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon..."
23. ....called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations..."
24. ....urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices..."
25. ....condemned Israel's... incursion into Lebanon..."
26. ....deplored Israel's... commando raids on Lebanon..."
27. ....deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians..."
28. ....deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians..."
29. ....demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada..."
30. ...called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands..."-

As a matter of interest how many UN resolutions were made against Iraq?  How many have been made against Iran or North Korea?  Isn't it about time the US, UK and their allies did something about the situation?  I say go in, exercise regime change like we did against Saddam.  Maybe then we can have some peace.

However, we all know that will never happen.  The US likes to protect terrorists.

kr@cker wrote:

Hezbollah, hamas, plo....whatever, they each containg high ranking members of various government agencies, for the governments to turn a blind eye to theri operation is the same as giving them a green flag, what if the FBI decided to quit shutting down militia groups or white/black supremist groups, what if Washington decided to ignore the border extremist (not the minutemen) who want to run out and shoot every illegal they see in the desert? Would you sit back and say "Pfft, they're NGO's, nothing we can do about them"? Many of these governments, especially Syria, have Arab supremist views right up to the top of command, and feel they have nothing but gain in the destruction of Israel, the one nation over there that actually invests in schools and industry, why build your own when you can take theirs? How about sanctioning the governmetns that allow the broadcast of terrorist fundraisers on TV? How about the sanctioning the governments that ignore trucks full of AK's crossing the borders? How abourt sanctioning the governments that teach that an Arab life is worth 2 times that of anyone else's as soon as the kids can read, as well as allowing government facilities to be used to teach how to make homemeade rockets to launch indiscriminately at Israeli colleges? If these governments ever want any kind of credibility, they're going to have to start policing their own, maybe they need to start by ousting the cabinet officials who spend their free time running camps teaching how to make car bombs.

Last edited by chuckle_hound (2006-07-17 05:23:41)

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

A soldier was captured during military action and imprisoned without trial.

Now here's the question: Am I talking about Gitmo or Gaza?

topthrill05 wrote:

aardfrith wrote:

As a matter of interest how many UN resolutions were made against Iraq?  How many have been made against Iran or North Korea?  Isn't it about time the US, UK and their allies did something about the situation?  I say go in, exercise regime change like we did against Saddam.  Maybe then we can have some peace.

However, we all know that will never happen.  The US likes to protect terrorists.

How do we protect terrorists? Can't wait to hear this one.

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik (from another thread) wrote:

but actualy all this topic is about to turn canadians against us!all normal ppl in here should understand that it is war, and civilians die on wars dosent matter were they from! but anyway i say sorry to canadian ppl!

Lisik (from this thread) wrote:

yes i can repet! FUCK ALL ARABS! KILL THEM! FUCK THEM FUCKING OFF! u have problem with it? i think 55 years of terror against israel - gives to israel right to hate arabs!

Hilarious. You feign concern about how the outside world views you in one thread and then spout hateful nazi-like racism in another thread. You also seem to be valuing Canadian lives over Palestinian ones. You are exactly the type of person we need on this forum to show the world how some (not all) Israelis think.

With comments like that, and after everything the jews went through in nazi germany, you should hang your head in shame.

delta4bravo*nl* wrote:

Racist yea sure My wife is half Lebanese and half Syrian.... and she happens to agree with me on most points.

HM1{N} wrote:

I have never once condoned the actions of Hezbollah, not here or anywhere else.  I think what Hezbollah did amounts to a "cheap shot" and should never have taken place.  The fact remains that Israel is now using it's military to murder innocent civilian (once again) on a mass scale.  Israel may have stood a chance of getting their soldiers back through negotiations, had their history shown that they would honor such an agreement.  As we all know, there are still Palestinians in captivity that Israel promised to release in a prisoner swap and never did....

HM1{N} wrote:

A home was promised to the Jews.  NEVER was a state promised to them...Israel was created by the Jews ILLEGALLY murdering the people and stealing their land, get that through your head.

HM1{N} wrote:

1st of all, Israel has used it's military for decades to systematically kill Palestinians, invade Lebanon, and steal land to further their expansionist goals, the Palestinians have no military, and Lebanon, well theirs amounts to nothing more than a group of men armed like our police.  It's no wonder the Palestinians resort to suicide bombings, it's all they have left to fight back with...BTW, I have never condoned suicide bombings, I abhor them.

HM1{N} wrote:

They are not MY vaunted Hezbollah, they are Israels thorn in the side, created because Israel invaded Lebanon illegally.

HM1{N} wrote:

Israel gave what, a whole 8 hours before they starting bombing Lebanon?  Yeah that's enough time for diplomacy to work?

As I said earlier, the U.S. policy towards Israel is ass backwards.  We blindly allow them to do whatever they want, even when the rest of the world disagrees with Israeli actions.  We are their only friend.  Quit being consumed by your anger and try to look at the facts objectively.  Israel is facing these problems because of their policies and actions, and for no other reason.

Lisik wrote:

how much times jews tryed to get peace with arabs? and how much time arabs tryed to get peace with us? we just have anought of them! take them from us, or we will smash them off!

Bertster7 wrote:

delta4bravo*nl* wrote:

Now who is the fucking racist??


Fuck em (*edit* Arabs) good this time once and for all.

You are apparently.

Do you think everyone against Israeli policy is running around shouting "Wir müssen die Juden abschaffen"?
No, of course not because people on this side of the fence are taking a sensible objective view based on facts - not to do with personal opinions about either faction - whereas most pro Israelis are just ranting anti Arab nonsense, like "Fuck all Arabs".

Jainus being one of  the few exceptions, putting up structured arguments - which whilst I don't agree with them entirely I can see where he's coming from. "Fuck all Arabs" just makes me think the poster is a retard who doesn't understand the situation or that they are racist scum in need of a good slap.