SGT.Mays
Member
+2|6984|Ohio
I must say that America is the cheif exporter of wheat in the world. We pay farmers so they don't grow food to keep the market from being flooded with the ungodly amount of food we could acctually produce. North Korea recieves plenty of aid  from the U.S. and it would be a bad bet to think we would keep sending it if we felt threatened by them. Korea with a nuke is a bad thing yes but, untill they aquire a delivery system that can hit America it won't be a major threat. If it comes down to it and Kim does get a nuke, he would most likly be "removed" from power by a tactical strike team.

P.S. Major Payne your government loves our government so go fuck yourself.
Major Payne
Member
+18|7021|Netherlands
lol go fuck yourself i know better
butternoodle go fuck yourself too read the whole tread and you see that your just spamming fucking morron and if US didnt helped us france, enlangd and russia did

Last edited by Major Payne (2006-07-11 13:28:58)

cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6937|NJ
Please stop with the flaming because I will kill the whole thread. Thank you
T0rr3nt
Member
+54|6818|Michigan
i feel they have every right to defend their country, missle programs are a top priority for self defense. same with iran and their nuclear program. if you can get/research the technology, by all means use it for civil reasons. however, if you start making threats to other countries(ie korean to the usa/japan, and iran to israel) of course those countries are going to get defensive.
buttered noodle
Member
+16|6887|ohio

Major Payne wrote:

lol go fuck yourself i know better
butternoodle go fuck yourself too read the whole tread and you see that your just spamming fucking morron and if US didnt helped us france, enlangd and russia did
ok then so i guess knowingwhat your talking about is spamming, moron is still spelled moron, and in case you didn't know(idont think that you do) france kinda surrendered, England was getting bombed to hell, had we not be constantly giving them supplies them they would have fallen/surrendered, and also Russia incurred very heavy losses, they woukd have fallen had it not been for the one winter that forced hitler to retreat. Had we not helped Europe to allow for 2 fronts England would have been easily crushed, as would russia with all Hitler's resources aimed towards them and then we ultimately would be in one hell of a struggle, but seeing as JAPAN, JAPAN, JAPAN, attacked Pearl Harbor and forced the U.S. to go fulforce into the war we got in just in time to prevent Germany from completely taking over Europe. You also did say yourself that you were occupied, so obviously you couldn't do anything, France and England never(at least not single handedly) came to save your country.
    I also must say i'm sorry, sorry that you are so poorly educated as to how WWII went down, I'm no history buff by any means, but by the time your reaching adulthood I would think it common knowlage to know a little bit about the biggest war in history.
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6829|Allentown, PA, USA
He cant help it, the guy is probably retarded or something. Seriously, just leave him alone.
buttered noodle
Member
+16|6887|ohio
yea, your probably right
Major Payne
Member
+18|7021|Netherlands
just leave it bihind talk about the topic: North Korea firing missles?

edited....B.Schuss
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7082|Cologne, Germany

last warning

stop the flaming and personal attacks and stay on topic. WWII is long over and none of us fought in it. Therefore, none of us can take credit for anything that happened back then.

I don't care who started the insults, it stops now. This is not a high school yard....

There is a reason why this is called "debate and serious talk"...
CO05
Member
+3|6766
Isn't testing a ballistics missile and testing a missile equipped with a nuclear war head different?
CO05
Member
+3|6766

rawls wrote:

Major Payne wrote:

hm1{n} wrote:

it isn't ego Payne, it's us being tired of everyone messing with us.  Here we are minding our own business and our planes are hijacked and 3,000 plus people are killed.
don't get me wrong about this but did china fought back when you bombed Hiroshima and was is normal to trow a bomb on Hiroshima you Americans killed 100.000 thousands of people and thats normal but 3.000 Americans omg boehoe etc. its bad that it happened but don't only think about your own country

example: Germany bombed our capital city in WWII thousands of people died and we didn't do nothing against it we are still friendly to the Germans and we even played the WK in Germany
Thats why your country is small  and insignificant. You guys do nothing. Im surprised you still exist as the Netherlands. China wants to stop NKorea from creating a bomb also. As for "stealing" German technology, those are the spoils of war. "To the victor go the spoils"

The US should bring everyone home, ban business outside the US and its territories. Build a sick defense around our country and let the rest of the world alone. I wonder how long it would take for countries to start BEGGING us for some sort of assistance. A world with out the US. HMMM...
Heh, kind of like North Korea eh? Only without the whole world begging for help.
Smitty5613
Member
+46|6768|Middle of nowhere, California
Major payne is a stupid....... lol jk i think if N/K is launchin nukes "that can reach the US" over Japan without japans permission, it is an act of war... anyone who thinks North Korea is just doin it for fun.. is #1. a complete fukkin dumbass or #2. doesn't live in the US and is not threatened
chuckle_hound
Member
+32|6908|Edinburgh, Scotland

JaMDuDe wrote:

Trel wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

If we went to war with North Korea it would be flat in a matter of hours.
Just like Iraq, huh?
We did take out saddams army in a matter of hours. Then coward terrorists came in. The best the terrorists can do is make car bombs and hide from us.
What exactly should they do, they've been invaded by a superior force who butcher their people, rape their women and randomly kill people.  They weren't invited in and they've already destroyed the country with the express intention of securing oil.  If I had no other way to fight back then I'd resort to whatever it takes.

If anything, the terrorists are braver than any American officer.  At least they're willing to die for their country rather than sitting back and firing off long range missiles at civilians.

The American soldiers should just realise the only cowards are the Generals and officers sitting in the US sending them to their deaths.
twz_stryker
Member
+4|6742|San Antonio, TX

chuckle_hound wrote:

JaMDuDe wrote:

Trel wrote:

Just like Iraq, huh?
We did take out saddams army in a matter of hours. Then coward terrorists came in. The best the terrorists can do is make car bombs and hide from us.
What exactly should they do, they've been invaded by a superior force who butcher their people, rape their women and randomly kill people.  They weren't invited in and they've already destroyed the country with the express intention of securing oil.  If I had no other way to fight back then I'd resort to whatever it takes.

If anything, the terrorists are braver than any American officer.  At least they're willing to die for their country rather than sitting back and firing off long range missiles at civilians.

The American soldiers should just realise the only cowards are the Generals and officers sitting in the US sending them to their deaths.
Ignorance is bliss huh?
Major Payne
Member
+18|7021|Netherlands
but are they the only one who's testing missles i bet that every country test missels so once and a while
SealXo
Member
+309|6777

Major Payne wrote:

are Americans addicted to war or something. why would you begin a war for some test rockets

Jamdude wrote:

If we went to war with North Korea it would be flat in a matter of hours.
you've Americans got a fucking huge ego
suck me jihadder go back to the netherlands
see i live in california where these missiles would land, id rather not be incinerated and then have my leg in dana point and my head in fullerton got it?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6937|NJ
Yea major payne getting back on topic.

But North Korea + threats against the US + troop deployment = bad news bears
Major Payne
Member
+18|7021|Netherlands
but why do you think they are against the US ma by they are only testing your thinking in the worst scenario
every country tests his missiles so once in a while
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7082|Cologne, Germany

SealXo wrote:

Major Payne wrote:

are Americans addicted to war or something. why would you begin a war for some test rockets

Jamdude wrote:

If we went to war with North Korea it would be flat in a matter of hours.
you've Americans got a fucking huge ego
suck me jihadder go back to the netherlands
see i live in california where these missiles would land, id rather not be incinerated and then have my leg in dana point and my head in fullerton got it?
apart from the flame ( very classy, really... ), I'd love to know what makes you think that NK would actually fire ICBM's towards the US ? They must know that they could never win a war against the US, don't you think ? Do you honestly think NK would fire a missile at the US ? What would they have to gain from that ?

Give me a rational, reasonable explanation why you think that NK poses a threat to the security of the US.
Paranoid blabbering shall be ignored ( you know, the likes of "they're all ditry little communists and hate us" ).

When responding, please also keep in mind the following arguments:

1) They don't have the economy to support a large scale conflict.
2) they don't have the supply capabilities to support troops over a larger distance
3) while their armed forces may be strong in numbers, they lack the technology to compete with the US armed forces in a conventional conflict. The US Air Force would bomb them into oblivion.
4) all they could do would be attack south korea ( again ), and it is unlikely that the UN would let this go unsanctioned
5) their people are starving, a lot of them depend on foreign food programs.

most importantly:
6) Russia and China are the regional superpowers and I bet my ass they wouldn't allow North Korea to pull a stunt right in their back yard. Both were very quiet during the Iraq war, but that would change radically, should a conflict brake out in their region.

I'd appreciate a serious answer. "Suck me jihadder" won't do, I am afraid.
hilltop2bit
Member
+9|6818|Doctor Evils Lair, Near You!

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Because we don't have any diplomacy skills anymore it seems like, and when you're living in a constant state of fear everyone and everything scares us.

The bully on the block will always strike first to hold his status.
Govt is getting soft on major issues due to media coverage. remove media coverage and BAMMMMMM problem solved
BVC
Member
+325|6937
This is why I like living in a nuclear-free country.  It doesn't make you very popular with the rest of the west, but you don't have to worry about all this BS.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6937|NJ

B.Schuss wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Major Payne wrote:

are Americans addicted to war or something. why would you begin a war for some test rockets


you've Americans got a fucking huge ego
suck me jihadder go back to the netherlands
see i live in california where these missiles would land, id rather not be incinerated and then have my leg in dana point and my head in fullerton got it?
apart from the flame ( very classy, really... ), I'd love to know what makes you think that NK would actually fire ICBM's towards the US ? They must know that they could never win a war against the US, don't you think ? Do you honestly think NK would fire a missile at the US ? What would they have to gain from that ?

Give me a rational, reasonable explanation why you think that NK poses a threat to the security of the US.
Paranoid blabbering shall be ignored ( you know, the likes of "they're all ditry little communists and hate us" ).

When responding, please also keep in mind the following arguments:

1) They don't have the economy to support a large scale conflict.
2) they don't have the supply capabilities to support troops over a larger distance
3) while their armed forces may be strong in numbers, they lack the technology to compete with the US armed forces in a conventional conflict. The US Air Force would bomb them into oblivion.
4) all they could do would be attack south korea ( again ), and it is unlikely that the UN would let this go unsanctioned
5) their people are starving, a lot of them depend on foreign food programs.

most importantly:
6) Russia and China are the regional superpowers and I bet my ass they wouldn't allow North Korea to pull a stunt right in their back yard. Both were very quiet during the Iraq war, but that would change radically, should a conflict brake out in their region.

I'd appreciate a serious answer. "Suck me jihadder" won't do, I am afraid.
I'm definatly not a flamer, but to answer your question I'm going to ask a question. With such larger scale problems in there country why are they focusing on getting nuclear arms and missle up?


IMO A country such as their where people are starving on a day to day basis need a scapegoat to angle their peoples anger too, and the U.S. make a perfect enemy of the state for them. 

If north Korea where to "Nuke" us we more then likely wouldn't be able to nuke them back due to Russia and China being right there. And if we did shot a nuke they are more then likely going to attack us, like a big brother syndrome.
GATOR591957
Member
+84|6868

B.Schuss wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Major Payne wrote:

are Americans addicted to war or something. why would you begin a war for some test rockets


you've Americans got a fucking huge ego
suck me jihadder go back to the netherlands
see i live in california where these missiles would land, id rather not be incinerated and then have my leg in dana point and my head in fullerton got it?
apart from the flame ( very classy, really... ), I'd love to know what makes you think that NK would actually fire ICBM's towards the US ? They must know that they could never win a war against the US, don't you think ? Do you honestly think NK would fire a missile at the US ? What would they have to gain from that ?

Give me a rational, reasonable explanation why you think that NK poses a threat to the security of the US.
Paranoid blabbering shall be ignored ( you know, the likes of "they're all ditry little communists and hate us" ).

When responding, please also keep in mind the following arguments:

1) They don't have the economy to support a large scale conflict.
2) they don't have the supply capabilities to support troops over a larger distance
3) while their armed forces may be strong in numbers, they lack the technology to compete with the US armed forces in a conventional conflict. The US Air Force would bomb them into oblivion.
4) all they could do would be attack south korea ( again ), and it is unlikely that the UN would let this go unsanctioned
5) their people are starving, a lot of them depend on foreign food programs.

most importantly:
6) Russia and China are the regional superpowers and I bet my ass they wouldn't allow North Korea to pull a stunt right in their back yard. Both were very quiet during the Iraq war, but that would change radically, should a conflict brake out in their region.

I'd appreciate a serious answer. "Suck me jihadder" won't do, I am afraid.
B you've answered your own question:

1) They don't have the economy to support a large scale conflict.
2) they don't have the supply capabilities to support troops over a larger distance
3) while their armed forces may be strong in numbers, they lack the technology to compete with the US armed forces in a conventional conflict. The US Air Force would bomb them into oblivion.
4) all they could do would be attack south korea ( again ), and it is unlikely that the UN would let this go unsanctioned
5) their people are starving, a lot of them depend on foreign food programs.

What do they have to lose.  I believe this whole thing is a tactic to get food programs and money from the US and others.  If they don't get it, they will have to escalate their efforts.  To quote an old phrase, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6790|Southeastern USA
I was goinhg to say the same as gator, the most dangerous people are the ones with nothing to lose.

Major Payne wrote:

but why do you think they are against the US ma by they are only testing your thinking in the worst scenario
every country tests his missiles so once in a while
yes but he's been aiming his missiles at Japan, one of our closest allies, and Hawaii, US soevereign territory, next he may try to send one toward AUS, as to why, it's partially due to ego, but mostly because a certain past administration which shall remain nameless had a history of giving him little things like basketballs signed by Michael Jordan every time he rattled his sabers, oh, and light water reactors.

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-07-13 10:18:52)

beerface702
Member
+65|6934|las vegas
well it wouldnt be smart to nuke iraq or iran. but we could if we wanted. i doubt anyone could intercept our missles. in fact our own WMD defence system is FUBAR in a recent article i read. and not 100% reliable. i doubt china or russia could shoot our missles down on there way to a  middle eastern country.

but ya, that would defeat the whole purpose of us being in iraq

and ruff times are comin up. I have a feelin iran is going to react very very violently towards Israel after this week...just watch

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