OK, lets start by re-quoting a couple of the rules that are listed
on the match page.
'Yellow cards' will be given for breaking certain rules, if you receive a yellow card you will be removed from the server and have to rejoin it to continue.
'Red cards' will be awarded to players who break rules and have already got a yellow card, if you receive a red card you will be banned from the server for the remainder of that round and will 'carry over' a yellow card into the next.
# Players from each team must spawn with their teams designated kit only
* Players may pick up kits of fallen enemy and use them
* Excessive use of the 'wrong' kit will get a 'yellow card'
(admin judgement)
* Players spawning with the 'wrong' kit will get a 'yellow card'
ssonrats wrote:
We noticed that it is very easy for a medic to get a kill then they can easily grab the sniper kit when they want (which many will) and vice versa.
ok, so it's easy to loot the bodys of people fallen beside you. However, as the rules state, this is permitted but excessive use of that 'wrong kit' will not be permitted.
Excessive in this context means outside of the current situation.
So, the two most likely scenarios as I see it:
1) Medic or medics engage in CQC with sniper or snipers. At the end of it a medic picks up a sniper kit and throws down a couple of clays before grabbing his own kit back.
2) Same situation as above but the snipers win out, this time he grabs a medic kit and revs a couple of buddies before grabbing his kit.
There is another scenario though,
3) Same as above but when a medic revs a team mate he comes back with a sniper kit cos it was closest to him.
If in any of the above situations the player kept the 'wrong' kit and set off to snipe, or rev heal his team then that would be seen as 'excessive'. I see the picking up of a kit to do something there and then as taking an oppertunity, just as if you could just pick a clay out of the dead guys pack and set it.
I see the 'excessive' use as taking the piss and will yellow card people for it. We will have all the resources we need to track these players and they will be caught.
A reminder to any playing. A yellow card will mean you have to log back into the game and therefore miss a couple of minutes of supporting your team. A yellow card offence committed by a player who already has a yellow card will mean you miss the rest of that round and have a yellow in the next one.
I doubt your team will be too happy about that.
Todd_Angelo wrote:
Widjerd wrote:
i gotta ask why bother with medics v snipers if you can swap kits
SargeV1.4 wrote:
You should not be able to switch kits in the match. No excuses. The snipers do what snipers can, the medics do what medics can. No kit-switching AT ALL.
Exactly what I've been saying since it became clear this would be allowed and it's the reason I immediately bowed out.
If I were to admin in such a hard and fast manner then options 3 would mean people getting removed from their team through no fault of their own. This would most likely be medics and therefore unfair on one team. I appreciate that not everyone is going to agree with the rules but that's true everywhere.
Lets ask ourselves what the point of this event is.
Is it to prove that medics are better than snipers?
Is it to prove that one kit is better than the other?
Is it to prove that snipers can't compete without indestructible, FF safe clays?
Is it to prove that medics cant compete without reviving all the time?
If you answered 'yes' to any of the above then you have missed the point. This event is about limiting two teams in certain ways and having a match for FUN.
Sure, bragging rights are at stake and as a result people WILL say that one side/team/kit is better than the other but anyone with two brain cells to rub together will know that all this event proves is that on a specific day, with specific limitations, some specific players lost less tickets than some other players.
That's it.
Yes that means this is silly, but that's nothing new. This is a game, it's silly. It's also fun.
Todd_Angelo wrote:
No offense meant but anyone with two brain cells to rub together should immediately see that it makes the contest, silly though it already is, utterly pointless.
Yeah, actually I will take a little offence at that. I respect you TA, I've read enough of your posts to know that. but in that one sentence you have not only said that I (and yes, it's obviously aimed at me) am stupid but also been dismissive of all the efforts I have put into organising this event. I have worked very hard and put in about 50 hours of effort arranging this over the last week and a bit. I've tried to make it as easy for people to get involved. I've set up forums, servers and TS for the teams and helped both team leaders organise their men. I've written dozens of posts communicating all the details on several forums. I've engaged BFTV and got live coverage so not only those playing can enjoy the event, everyone can.
I don't ask for thanks for this time and effort (though many have been kind enough to give it) as I enjoy doing it. This is why we have started DMZ-gaming largely on the back of this kind of community event, there seems to be a call for more (USA vs EU etc...).
I do ask that you don't be dismissive or call this event pointless. Silly, for sure, but the point is to have fun and bring the community together. I also ask (have previously asked) that the rules are no longer challenged for this event. Communicating the rules effectively to all players is hard enough, doing that then changing them is a lot harder. I have already (in at least two threads) said that we will have a review of the rules before the next one, but lets see how this actually plays out.
Thank you.
