Ok, they personally know that God exists.
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Who was responsible for the death of Jesus?
| The Romans | 15% | 15% - 24 | ||||
| The Jews | 25% | 25% - 40 | ||||
| Himself | 16% | 16% - 26 | ||||
| Other | 12% | 12% - 20 | ||||
| Go Fuck Yourself | 29% | 29% - 47 | ||||
| Total: 157 | ||||||
I don't even need to make my point, Cameron has made it for me. Agnosticism FTW!CameronPoe wrote:
In fairness it completely impossible to know god exists. Give me some irrefutable evidence to the contrary.JaMDuDe wrote:
What do u mean go on? You want "proof" or sumthing? About 70% of americans know God exists without a doubt.
I cant see or smell oxygen but it exists. Jesus was a man and the son of God. If you don't believe that its not our problem. You will go to hell and we will go to Heaven. I don't need to show you any evidence, you are not even worthy of such an effort.
PS- this message is for the non believers.
PS- this message is for the non believers.
You see, these are the type of people that give other christians bad raps. Believe what you want to, but don't tell me that I am going to hell because I don't believe what you do. Actually, tell me whatever you want, in the end we will both be in the same place - the ground. New cheer is in order.rawls2 wrote:
I cant see or smell oxygen but it exists. Jesus was a man and the son of God. If you don't believe that its not our problem. You will go to hell and we will go to Heaven. I don't need to show you any evidence, you are not even worthy of such an effort.
PS- this message is for the non believers.
Worm Food FTW!
Worm food is what youll be wishing you are when you die.
Zing!! Seriously though, all your (and all Christians) babble about believing or I am going to hell, what does that accomplish? You are going to scare me into believing in God? God is this loving figure, but if you don't believe you are damned for eternity? I'll take my chances and live my life to its fullest while I am on Earth. You can live your life waiting for the next one.JaMDuDe wrote:
Worm food is what youll be wishing you are when you die.
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Other... He actually not dead at all, he's living in Croyden under the assumed name of Chris Goodson. He has a wife (Mary) and two kids named Daniel and Leonard.
During the week he sells books in a small store in the town center, but enjoys walking, reading, writing novels, watching the footie and walking on water at the weekends..
Oh... sorry, that's a different fictional character
During the week he sells books in a small store in the town center, but enjoys walking, reading, writing novels, watching the footie and walking on water at the weekends..
Oh... sorry, that's a different fictional character
I dont recall trying to scare you too often. If you deny Gods existence even though its obvious and youve had your chance at being with him, when you die youll go to a place without God. You can live your life to the fullest while being a christian.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Zing!! Seriously though, all your (and all Christians) babble about believing or I am going to hell, what does that accomplish? You are going to scare me into believing in God? God is this loving figure, but if you don't believe you are damned for eternity? I'll take my chances and live my life to its fullest while I am on Earth. You can live your life waiting for the next one.JaMDuDe wrote:
Worm food is what youll be wishing you are when you die.
If you deny the lack of a god even though it is obvious you had your chance at being sane, when you die you will go to a place without God.JaMDuDe wrote:
I dont recall trying to scare you too often. If you deny Gods existence even though its obvious and youve had your chance at being with him, when you die youll go to a place without God. You can live your life to the fullest while being a christian.
yeah but I couldn't have had those three-somes if I was a christian, and I don't know about you, but I say you haven't live your life to it's fullest til you've......well.....you know what I'm getting at, there might be kiddies looking (mommy what's a @#$% around followed by some $#@swapping and arabian earmuffs?)
Honestly, the mindset of the religious is that "Hey, if I tell myself that I believe in God, if God does exist I will go to heaven, and if he doesn't, then big whoop, because I won't be eternally damned!" In otherwords, their beliefs are rooted in a ignorant fear of sociological mythos, set behind some bogus metaphysical embodiment.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
If you deny the lack of a god even though it is obvious you had your chance at being sane, when you die you will go to a place without God.JaMDuDe wrote:
I dont recall trying to scare you too often. If you deny Gods existence even though its obvious and youve had your chance at being with him, when you die youll go to a place without God. You can live your life to the fullest while being a christian.
Ken your not good at rewording things. And when you do reword what people say, it usually doesnt make sense.
No my beliefs arent rooted in "Hey, if I tell myself that I believe in God, if God does exist I will go to heaven, and if he doesn't, then big whoop, because I won't be eternally damned!"
No my beliefs arent rooted in "Hey, if I tell myself that I believe in God, if God does exist I will go to heaven, and if he doesn't, then big whoop, because I won't be eternally damned!"
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Then face the facts and realize your faith is without logic--that is the only reason for going against sensicality, fear.
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Those arent the facts. How come the 1 time hell is mentioned you all say that fear is the only reason for being a christian?
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LOL. I didn't say they were facts. It's a possibility (although most likely a subconcious one), and when I speak of "facing the facts" I refer to the assumptious nature behind religion. Facts go against assumption. What the fuck does it matter when I mention Hell?
Well ya could...sort of... long as its with 2 chicks, and of course u didn't use a condom, and everyone was married (not necessarily to each other ), and no-one was drinking. .... Oh yeah, and of course you confessed it to a Catholic priest (who was probably wanking off to it at the time) as we all know that you can do anything you want and co to confession then everything is fine and you can go and do it again.kr@cker wrote:
yeah but I couldn't have had those three-somes if I was a christian, and I don't know about you, but I say you haven't live your life to it's fullest til you've......well.....you know what I'm getting at, there might be kiddies looking (mommy what's a @#$% around followed by some $#@swapping and arabian earmuffs?)
Too sarcastic ??
QFEJaMDuDe wrote:
Ken your not good at rewording things. And most of the time when u do it usually doesnt make sense.
I know what you ment. It doesnt matter that you mentioned hell. Fear of hell isnt the only reason for being a christian.Xietsu wrote:
LOL. I didn't say they were facts. It's a possibility (although most likely a subconcious one), and when I speak of "facing the facts" I refer to the assumptious nature behind religion. Facts go against assumption. What the fuck does it matter when I mention Hell?
I don't care. So what? If you claim to understand you shouldn't be posting unless you're going to comment on the assumptious nature of religion. As I said, fear is the only acceptable justification for defying logicality.JaMDuDe wrote:
I know what you ment. It doesnt matter that you mentioned hell. Fear of hell isnt the only reason for being a christian.Xietsu wrote:
LOL. I didn't say they were facts. It's a possibility (although most likely a subconcious one), and when I speak of "facing the facts" I refer to the assumptious nature behind religion. Facts go against assumption. What the fuck does it matter when I mention Hell?
We can start a thread called why America will fall like Rome. Your response would be my first example why. Remember, one nation under God.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
You see, these are the type of people that give other christians bad raps. Believe what you want to, but don't tell me that I am going to hell because I don't believe what you do. Actually, tell me whatever you want, in the end we will both be in the same place - the ground. New cheer is in order.rawls2 wrote:
I cant see or smell oxygen but it exists. Jesus was a man and the son of God. If you don't believe that its not our problem. You will go to hell and we will go to Heaven. I don't need to show you any evidence, you are not even worthy of such an effort.
PS- this message is for the non believers.
Worm Food FTW!
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What the fuck rawls? His comment has nothing to do with America. You're fucking crazy.
It was a side note. Thats why I said it should be a new thread. Come on man read into it. Be perceptive.Xietsu wrote:
What the fuck rawls? His comment has nothing to do with America. You're fucking crazy.
That doesn't matter. His is the comment of a single individual within a nation (noting he has never been and currently is not the President). There is no reading into that about the demise of a superpower. I am an extremely perceptive person, and you are crazy.
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To me the existence of god or gods is not obvious, not concrete facts have been placed in front of me to convince me such a deity exists. Or am I crazy for believing in facts instead of 2000 year old banter?JaMDuDe wrote:
I dont recall trying to scare you too often. If you deny Gods existence even though its obvious and youve had your chance at being with him, when you die youll go to a place without God. You can live your life to the fullest while being a christian.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Zing!! Seriously though, all your (and all Christians) babble about believing or I am going to hell, what does that accomplish? You are going to scare me into believing in God? God is this loving figure, but if you don't believe you are damned for eternity? I'll take my chances and live my life to its fullest while I am on Earth. You can live your life waiting for the next one.JaMDuDe wrote:
Worm food is what youll be wishing you are when you die.
And living life to the fullest as a Christian is an oxymoron to me, You'll be living your life the way an all seeing all powerful (most likely fictional) being wants you to live.
I'll never kill somebody, rob somebody, rape somebody, do drugs or commit adultery. But I will not do these things because I'm afraid of going to hell. I don't do them cause I'm not a fuckin' prick. The fact that some religious fundamentalists (this is not directed towards all christians) believe all atheists will become deviants breaking laws and murdering people left and right just blows my mind.
Anywho, I hate ranting on the net so I'm gonna go eat a sandwich or something.
Of course its not obvious to you, your denying his existence and not really even trying to find him. Science isnt the way you find God, but it does point in his direction.