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Will Ageia's PhysX be the next big thing for games

Yes54%54% - 47
No33%33% - 29
What?12%12% - 11
Total: 87
Cybargs
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_j5689_ wrote:

They can charge whatever they want as long as there's no competition.
ATI and Nvidia are working on their physics stuff... so there is still competition
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

They can charge whatever they want as long as there's no competition.
ATI and Nvidia are working on their physics stuff... so there is still competition
Until they release their stuff I mean.  Even then it still might be the same price range for everybody.  If ATi makes one, i'd buy it.  Would BF2 be a good game for a physics card or no?
Scorpion0x17
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No, BF2 would not be a good game for physics cards.

You, see whatever hardware your using, you're going to have games that have been specifically written to support it. Until Microsoft bring out DirectPhysics.

Oh, and can people please stop calling 'physics' 'physix' - 'PhysX' is the aegea hardware - 'Physics' is the process that it will accellerate - saying 'physix' makes you look like a tw@t!
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
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I meant is BF2 good for some manner of Physics card like ATi or NVIDIAs upcoming cards not PhysX.
99Ram2500
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The game has to be designed for Phsyx. 

BF2 does not support it.  BF 2142 will not support it.

Physx adds so much depth to things its not even funny.   

The PCI bus is more than plenty for their current hardware, they say.

The interface isnt the factor.  Its being able to compute and calculate the data internally, move high volumes of information around the card itself.  That, is where the Physx shines.

Unreal Tournament 2007 sounds like its going to be the make or break of the physx..  everyones wanting to see it in action.

Looks very promising... and the ammount of data and calculations the card can do internally, itd take awhile for nvidia or ati to match that on a graphics card (maybe if they do two PCBs like the 7950???)
ShadowFoX
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Nobody here heard of CellFactor? If you havent google it. You will see why PhysX is important for games like that.
How does this work, do you run it in SLI to get the power of your current card with the physics capabilities of the new one, or just the new card alone?

PCI, slot, what the fuck? I assume most people use PCI-E by now...
ShadowFoX
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+109|6828
Ok for those who dont understand PCI-E is for Video Cards PCI is for any other addon cards like PhysX cards and sound cards and so on and so forth.

ShadowFoX wrote:

Ok for those who dont understand PCI-E is for Video Cards PCI is for any other addon cards like PhysX cards and sound cards and so on and so forth.
So does my ASUS A8N motherboard carry a PCI slot as well, besides my sound card? I don't want to sacrifice sound for graphics...
ShadowFoX
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+109|6828
Ussualy there is one PCI-E or AGP for video card and then like 4 PCI slots for all your other stuff.
KingMchris
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+12|6840|London

daffytag wrote:

Basically its a new physics processor. It allows some crazy things, like lots and lots of objects can collide and be manipulated.

If you check out the video of a game called Cellfactor you will instanlty know what Im on about.
Yeah, but don't like use the software, only the hardware. coz the software requires 100% processor usage.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7014|Riva, MD
Mine only has three PCI slots.  One is filled by a modem which I never use(This house doesn't even use a normal phoneline anymore, we have broadband phone service), and one is filled by double 1394 slot card.  One is empty but I plan to save it for a sound card or something.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7014|Riva, MD

TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:

ShadowFoX wrote:

Ok for those who dont understand PCI-E is for Video Cards PCI is for any other addon cards like PhysX cards and sound cards and so on and so forth.
So does my ASUS A8N motherboard carry a PCI slot as well, besides my sound card? I don't want to sacrifice sound for graphics...
It's not even really what you'd call a graphics card.  It's like a physics accelerator for graphics so it works alongside your video card somewhat.
ShadowFoX
I Hate Claymores
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No it just calculates where lets a box flies to and how it behaves. It takes off some load of your cpu in calculating physics it doesnt render anything it just tells the graphics card where an item is for it to render it just like a cpu would if the physx card wasnt present.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
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_j5689_ wrote:

I meant is BF2 good for some manner of Physics card like ATi or NVIDIAs upcoming cards not PhysX.
Whatever the hardware solution the game needs to be written to support it - the stuf nVidia's looking into in conjunction with Havok uses Shader3, so either the game must use Havok or it's own Shader3 physics solution. With the PhysX card it's the same - the game must be written to support it.

In short, no matter what hardware, the software must be written to support it.

Until Microsoft release DirectPhysics - then the games will only need to support DirectPhysics.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|6999|Little Rock, Arkansas
No.

NO.


NONONONONO!!!

Is the idea of a physics card awesome? Yes, absolutely. Is the Physix interpetation of that idea good? No, not at all.

Read the review at Tom's Hardware. These guys are legit, and love putting new gizmos through their respective paces.

Linky, Linky

For my $300, I'll get a dual core video card. Or two. Then, considering the bandwidth of the PCI-E x16 bus, I will go forth and pwn.
roger smith
Member
+3|7063
i think that physics cards will eventually be the future of games, maybe not physx, but sooner or later.

for now i think solid state storage is the new deal
trentnorris
Scar 11 whore
+22|6952
maybe yes it will. its only supported for G.R.A.W, bet on soldier. so far what i know of.

you also got ati and nvdiai trying to make something similar to ageia physx.
FesterTheMolester
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yes

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