In the U.S. we all know that slavery ended after the civil war. How did it end in your countries? They don't really teach us that in school and I was just wondering.
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uhm...slavery is still around in the US, mexico, and lots of other countries. didnt you know that? human trafficking is the #2 something or other besides drugs in the US. orphans and other people get kidnapped and are forced to work 12 hours a day and eat scarse rations. slavery is still around kid. they just dont call it slavery, they call it human trafficing
Last edited by Trigger_Happy_92 (2006-06-15 10:04:02)
We didn't have slavery in Canada. yay!
by saying slavery was ended, he meant legally, the people who do it now are just phsycos who will probably cut the person up and eat him after he builds the guy a house or some shitTrigger_Happy_92 wrote:
uhm...slavery is still around in the US, mexico, and lots of other countries. didnt you know that? human trafficking is the #2 something or other besides drugs in the US. orphans and other people get kidnapped and are forced to work 12 hours a day and eat scarse rations. slavery is still around kid. they just dont call it slavery, they call it human trafficing
Ah, finally.. they cant blame Canada..
Some come over voluntarily, and it is not government approved. 13th amendment forbids slavery. While I am sure there are some instances, I believe he is thinking more along the lines of the Chinese labor camps.Trigger_Happy_92 wrote:
uhm...slavery is still around in the US, mexico, and lots of other countries. didnt you know that? human trafficking is the #2 something or other besides drugs in the US. orphans and other people get kidnapped and are forced to work 12 hours a day and eat scarse rations. slavery is still around kid. they just dont call it slavery, they call it human trafficing
There hasn't been any slavery in Ireland since Viking times.
I have to say the only slavery I know of in the U.S. is the strippers that come over from Russia and are forced to work off a debt that can not be done off of what they get paid.
Strippers get it too. Some get fronted the money for new bewbies and have to "work" off that debt. I've seen it with my own eyes.cpt.fass1 wrote:
I have to say the only slavery I know of in the U.S. is the strippers that come over from Russia and are forced to work off a debt that can not be done off of what they get paid.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Regular strippers? Well I know the russia ones get shipped over here and usually live in brooklyn in small apartments with live 20 other girls. There's good money in being a driver for them.
Read this.... http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2002/10678.htm
Your school did not tell you the truth about the Civil War either. The Civil War was a war over what rights each states had. Slavery was a small part of the war, and not what the war was about as American History Classes teaches. Also, the Civil War did not free slaves unless they joined the US Army, see the bolded text below. It does say that everyone should be paid the same amount of money for the work that they do, and that all of the slaved people shall now join the Armed forces.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
In the U.S. we all know that slavery ended after the civil war. How did it end in your countries? They don't really teach us that in school and I was just wondering.
Please keep this civil and informative.
Emancipation Proclamation wrote:
By the President of the United States of America:
A Proclamation.
Whereas, on the twenty-second day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-two, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United States, containing, among other things, the following, to wit:
"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free; and the Executive Government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons, and will do no act or acts to repress such persons, or any of them, in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.
"That the Executive will, on the first day of January aforesaid, by proclamation, designate the States and parts of States, if any, in which the people thereof, respectively, shall then be in rebellion against the United States; and the fact that any State, or the people thereof, shall on that day be, in good faith, represented in the Congress of the United States by members chosen thereto at elections wherein a majority of the qualified voters of such State shall have participated, shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive evidence that such State, and the people thereof, are not then in rebellion against the United States."
Now, therefore I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief, of the Army and Navy of the United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and in accordance with my purpose so to do publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days, from the day first above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States wherein the people thereof respectively, are this day in rebellion against the United States, the following, to wit:
Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.
And by virtue of the power, and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States, are, and henceforward shall be free; and that the Executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons.
And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defense; and I recommend to them that, in all cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.
And I further declare and make known, that such persons of suitable condition, will be received into the armed service of the United States to garrison forts, positions, stations, and other places, and to man vessels of all sorts in said service.
it ended withe the viking age, GOOD TIMES GOOD TIMES.
So wait what are the tiers for? I want to buy myself a family so I could be young all over again, and this time if they don't listen to me I'll kill themDarth_Fleder wrote:
Read this.... http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2002/10678.htm
Personally, I think this kind of thing represents the US at its best. Human trafficking -- like a lot of things -- is a global problem, and can only be effectively addressed through global coordination. It takes a powerful country to set the kind of example that will exert pressure elsewhere, and this is an admirable and necessary effort.Darth_Fleder wrote:
Read this.... http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2002/10678.htm
Good find. Here is the 2006 report, for those that are interested.
The only slavery we've had in Australia was the English convicts when they first came over in the 1700s. We don't have slavery nowadays but you do see the occasional human trafficking article in the paper.
Normally some kind of brothel that imports mostly asian women and make them work off debt through prostitution.
Normally some kind of brothel that imports mostly asian women and make them work off debt through prostitution.
The first slave transported directly from Africa to Canada was a child brought to Quebec in 1628 by the English invader David Kirke, and sold to a local resident on Kirke's departure in 1629. The child was baptized in May 1633 as Olivier Le Jeune, and died in 1654 while still a young man. Between 1628 and the British Conquest in 1759, 1132 slaves of African origin were brought to New France. Governor Denonville sought permission to establish a trade in African slaves in 1688, but royal permission was denied and so there was never any direct importation from Africa.
Most of the Africans came from the British colonies in North America or from the French West Indies. About 60 percent of the imported slaves were male and 40 percent female, and almost all of them were located in urban centers as domestic servants. Usually they were owned singly or in very small numbers, and most served the same family throughout their lives.
Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries — 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia — but their numbers were small until the Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves: 1200 to the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island), 300 to Lower Canada (Quebec), and 500 to Upper Canada (Ontario). As in New France, Loyalist slaves were held in small numbers and were employed as domestic servants, farm hands, and skilled artisans.
more fun here!!
http://www.africanaonline.com/slavery_canada.htm
Most of the Africans came from the British colonies in North America or from the French West Indies. About 60 percent of the imported slaves were male and 40 percent female, and almost all of them were located in urban centers as domestic servants. Usually they were owned singly or in very small numbers, and most served the same family throughout their lives.
Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries — 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia — but their numbers were small until the Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves: 1200 to the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island), 300 to Lower Canada (Quebec), and 500 to Upper Canada (Ontario). As in New France, Loyalist slaves were held in small numbers and were employed as domestic servants, farm hands, and skilled artisans.
more fun here!!
http://www.africanaonline.com/slavery_canada.htm
Last edited by kr@cker (2006-06-15 19:06:14)
From the same link as above, but relevant to the OP:
africanaonline.com wrote:
Black people have lived in Canada since the beginnings of transatlantic settlement. A few came as explorers, more came as slaves in the 17th and 18th centuries, still more as former American slaves fleeing to Canada between 1783 and 1865, and since then as free immigrants from the United States, the West Indies, and Africa.
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The system of gang labor, and its consequent institutions of control and brutality, did not develop in Canada. Because they did not appear to pose a threat to their masters, slaves were permitted to learn to read and write, Christian conversion was encouraged, and their marriages were recognized by law. In 1793 Upper Canada became the first territory in the British Empire to legislate the gradual abolition of slavery.
By 1800 the other provinces of British North America had effectively limited slavery through court decisions requiring the strictest proof of ownership, which was rarely available. Slavery remained legal, however, until the British Parliament emancipated slaves throughout the empire effective August 1, 1834.
but nonetheless, there was slavery in Canada, or does it not count since it was only a little bit of slavery
I wouldn't have posted the link if I didn't want people to read what you posted, I just wanted to point out that, yes, there was slavery in canada
I wouldn't have posted the link if I didn't want people to read what you posted, I just wanted to point out that, yes, there was slavery in canada
I know some Maori tribes here took slaves during battle, but after the British colonised the place the practise was wiped out.
Slavery in America today? are you serious? Slavery today what a joke.
maybe kidnapping, but not slavery.
Here's a dollar, buy a clue.
maybe kidnapping, but not slavery.
Here's a dollar, buy a clue.
u know why all the slaves during 1800s move to canada? coz of may 24, they dont have it in the usLT.Victim wrote:
Ah, finally.. they cant blame Canada..
yeah slavery is still around but its still illegal and yes its called human traffiking. sometimes they trick ppl and say come to X country for a job no need work visa! then they get tricked if female they become whores... then they cant go to the cops since they are illegal aliens. does the word sex slave ring a bell?
This is Slavery
You have a chain on your leg and you do all the farming choirs.
You live in closet sized shack in the back yard.
Human trafficing is NOT slavery, that is a complete idiot that lets others control them.
Go to the police...
If you cant, thats kidnapping.
Slave.......no.
Get it right.
You have a chain on your leg and you do all the farming choirs.
You live in closet sized shack in the back yard.
Human trafficing is NOT slavery, that is a complete idiot that lets others control them.
Go to the police...
If you cant, thats kidnapping.
Slave.......no.
Get it right.
What's funny, is that in the American Civil War the North were arguing that slaves weren't people. It had to do with the voting system.
Uh, yes it is. Most of them don't go to the police because the people who brought them over threaten their families back home. If you are forced to do work which you do not want to do, it's slavery.HeavyMetalDave wrote:
This is Slavery
You have a chain on your leg and you do all the farming choirs.
You live in closet sized shack in the back yard.
Human trafficing is NOT slavery, that is a complete idiot that lets others control them.
Go to the police...
If you cant, thats kidnapping.
Slave.......no.
Get it right.
Last edited by Bubbalo (2006-06-15 23:04:40)
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