That guys name is not even registering in the ranking system yet. LOL Looks like a NOOB!!! coming to play with the big boys!!!
I have to disagree with ya on that one if you tk someone you alway'S get a -8 think for an accidental tk thats punishment enough. You don't want to get the you've been punished (or maybe a kick) for an accidental tk or even wors for tk that was caused by a moron of a teamm8derplague wrote:
I've never understood why something being an accident should be a sufficient excuse not to be punished. If I get tked, then it negatively impacts my kdr, it loses me 15 seconds waiting to respawn, and it loses me whatever time it takes to get back to the action. These last two costs me potential kills/caps, so that's points out of my pocket. If it's an accident, then the person should be punished just so they're more careful in the future. This is particularly true for the nade spammers and the wild shooters.
Easiest way for EA/Dice to fix TK for jet/tank/helo is to set a timer. If you TK, you can't get in a vehicle of any kind for 30 seconds. Easy to implement and gives the guy that got TK'ed time to spawn and get in the vehicle.
in DoD if u kill around spawn on some servers u get kild ur self. i would love it when they bring that here to. that would stop the TK'ing for vehicles
Was Engineer last night and layed down mines to protect the Mos...er church in the middle of the map of Mashtuur, because I knew the enemy tanks/vehicles start ramming down there the take that flag(seems like that and the TV station on another map get the same praise). I didn't know our guys were going to barrel down there also, can't they see the crossbones?! I got a TK and everyone punished me, two tanks, and one vehicle of ours were toast. Moments later we lost that flag... Is it my fault for sticking them there? Were they coming back to defend? TK's suck luckily I did okay capturing flags and assisting but I still got a -10
Actually, no, it depends on the server. I've seen TK punishments range from -2 to -6; never seen a -8. And those are only if you punish. Some servers have an automatic min whether you punish or not, but most don't. At least, in my experience. However, my point stands: if I'm killed, even by accident, the person who did it shouldn't get off scott-free. I'm not talking about tk's that are my fault, I'm talking the nade spammers, wild shooters, or klutzes in vehicles. Basically, their incompetence or carelessness shouldn't give them a free ride.Fubar/fox wrote:
I have to disagree with ya on that one if you tk someone you alway'S get a -8 think for an accidental tk thats punishment enough. You don't want to get the you've been punished (or maybe a kick) for an accidental tk or even wors for tk that was caused by a moron of a teamm8derplague wrote:
I've never understood why something being an accident should be a sufficient excuse not to be punished. If I get tked, then it negatively impacts my kdr, it loses me 15 seconds waiting to respawn, and it loses me whatever time it takes to get back to the action. These last two costs me potential kills/caps, so that's points out of my pocket. If it's an accident, then the person should be punished just so they're more careful in the future. This is particularly true for the nade spammers and the wild shooters.
And let's face it, the vast majority of people punish automatically no matter what the circumstances. To not punish would be a definite disadvantage in terms of round medals.
It would be better if that timer increased exponetially for every tk. ie: 30 sec, 1min, 2min, 4minEagleTwoThree wrote:
Easiest way for EA/Dice to fix TK for jet/tank/helo is to set a timer. If you TK, you can't get in a vehicle of any kind for 30 seconds. Easy to implement and gives the guy that got TK'ed time to spawn and get in the vehicle.
On the subject of being tked for a vehicle. I got in a BH as someone was taking off cause I needed a ride, and he turned it around and crashed it into the ship. I respawned and got in the BH again and he dumped it into the water just to get me out of his bird.
Those are all great ideas for TK's punishments. Only one problem I see with that!! EA will not listen to us lowly little gamers. ;D
I love to play engineer. I'll hop in a dune buggy or jeep, and just tail an Armour unit around the whole time. I've learned that it's not smart to be right behind them. Because, you get run over when they throw on the brakes and hit reverse when they come under fire. So I've learned to drive in a wingman formation. At their 5 or 7 o'clock postion. That put a stop to my getting run over by armour commanders who don't pay attention to the engi who's helping them. However, i can't count the number of times when tailing an APC that a gunner or even driver has bailed out right in front of me. It leaves me with no time to stop. 90% of the time i get punished for running them down. That is an unfair punish IMO.the_heart_attack wrote:
what if you run infront of a jeep on the road?derplague wrote:
I've never understood why something being an accident should be a sufficient excuse not to be punished. If I get tked, then it negatively impacts my kdr, it loses me 15 seconds waiting to respawn, and it loses me whatever time it takes to get back to the action. These last two costs me potential kills/caps, so that's points out of my pocket. If it's an accident, then the person should be punished just so they're more careful in the future. This is particularly true for the nade spammers and the wild shooters.
who has right of way in your eyes?
What, I really hate is that I get out of the way of a helo or a jet that is coming but they still manage to crash into me and I get punished for it. I move out of the way yet the other guy manages somehow to hit me and I get punished of the TK. That is not right. They should get punished since they crashed into me and killed me first. Now that is really stupid.
Got TK'ed about 3 times last night by a guy named Hydrashok on Railbait server on the wake map because he wanted the AA on the carrier. Didn't punish the first time but then I saw the pattern as he shot me in the back when next round started and I headed towards the AA, he got tired of the forward top AA so he came to the rear one and fired an AT rocket into it and killed me to take that one. In the defense of the RB folks there weren't any admins or members on to kick or warn him but it was very annoying.
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I've been on the receiving end of that before.. and it was pre-1.03, so he made up those lost points (after I dutifully punished him) within about 1 minute anyway - so there was no real 'punishment'.IronGeek wrote:
Yeah, idiots who do that type of thing.
I saw a clan shoot a couple guys out of a blackhawk to make room for the rest of the clan members. I couldn't believe it!
I can't believe that no-one has thought of that before. Excellent idea, man!EagleTwoThree wrote:
Easiest way for EA/Dice to fix TK for jet/tank/helo is to set a timer. If you TK, you can't get in a vehicle of any kind for 30 seconds. Easy to implement and gives the guy that got TK'ed time to spawn and get in the vehicle.
No matter what you do you can't make a perfect system... It will take lots of programming to get a descent intelligent punishingsystem and it still isn't perfect!!
Accidents happen and some people do things on purpose... I believe that accidents happen ofter than the TK's so you'll actually damage your team more with harder punishing??
Accidents happen and some people do things on purpose... I believe that accidents happen ofter than the TK's so you'll actually damage your team more with harder punishing??