VaNiSh
Banned
+18|6929
lol marrage to gay bashing we have it all
Anfidurl
Use the bumper, that's what its for!
+103|6833|Lexington, Kentucky
Okay... once again I'm late to the party.

Video for yall. WMP format.
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Be … rriage.wmv

Jon Stewert and some fat guy arguing this topic, and most everything said so far is in there, from "Oh, it'll cause polygamy! Oh noes!!11!one" to "People aren't born gay." "Yeah, they are Born gay"

Honestly, people. What gets me about this topic, is that people claim we have a moral obligation to defend marrige with laws when the defending is only upholding and codifying Christian Marrige into law.

To heck with it, how about divorce the legal marrige and religious marrige altogether?

(Edit: For all the men who have fantasies about having two women in bed, why do they go nuts about Polygamy? Is it just a knee-jerk reaction to what the whacko old school Mormons did in the Old West, USA?)

Last edited by Anfidurl (2006-06-10 00:41:55)

Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7016|Antwerp, Flanders

TheCanadianTerrorist wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

yerded wrote:


I thought it was what you saw while walking throught the desert.
That's a mirage.
He was fucking joking.
I fucking know.
I've seen a lot of retards on here but I was in a good mood so i decided to assume that he indeed did know it was a mirage.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6801

Bubbalo wrote:

Headstone: What?  Are you drunk or something?  I don't understand.

Psycho wrote:

One - it's just not what was intended. Whether you are religious or if you just look at nature same sex unions doesn't fit.
IIRC, there are records of gay animals.  I'll see if I can find anything and get back to you.

Psycho wrote:

Two - If we allow same sex marriages, then why not multiple marriages? Some have argued it would also open the door to marriages to animals or children I think that's a stretch.
WTF does any of this have to do with gay marriage?  That's like saying that because drug A has been approved for sale, drug B, C, and D are likely to, because they are also drugs.

Psycho wrote:

Three - I believe children benefit from having a mother and a father. That's not to say a single parent cannot raise a child, but I think it should be obvious that having one of both parents would be the most beneficial.
So, having only one parent is worse than having two?  Besides, without getting married they could just as easily have one adopt the child and raise it together.  And I think you'll find there's plenty of evidence to suggest that children are better of being raised by two people of the same sex than in an orphanarium.

Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Difference = individuals getting divorced doesn't mean violation of sanctity. Means those individuals themselves did. Homosexuals getting married goes against the principles in general.
How so? What is it about the sanctity of marriage that it can remain unaffected by people ignoring the "Till death to we part line", but be affected by the "Man and woman wed in holy matrimony" line?  Do the lines have levels of criticality?  Are some parts of the core idea of marriage more core than other parts?  What about affairs, where do they fit in?


P.S.  I managed to combine John Howard and George Orwell there.  Woot!
Anyone got anything to say?
yerded
Bertinator
+255|6876|Westminster, California
My dad's a Utah polygamist with three wives.
Those marriages and a lot of my friends seem like a sham.
Mines not bad. My wife tolerates my computer fixation, dirt bike and urge to occasionally butter her grill.
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6796

yerded wrote:

My dad's a Utah polygamist with three wives.
Those marriages and a lot of my friends seem like a sham.
Mines not bad. My wife tolerates my computer fixation, dirt bike and urge to occasionally butter her grill.
She some kinda' extraterrestial? Where'd you find her? I want to know what the anatomical "grill" looks like O_O'.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6801
So, your birth father is married to you birth mother and two others?
Xietsu
Banned
+50|6796
Wow, 33 kids. That's a shame if he's stupid.
PekkaA
Member
+36|6904|Finland

Xietsu wrote:

Wow, 33 kids. That's a shame if he's stupid.
yerded
Bertinator
+255|6876|Westminster, California
https://i6.tinypic.com/13zq36d.jpg
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6895|United States of America

yerded wrote:

My dad's a Utah polygamist with three wives.
Those marriages and a lot of my friends seem like a sham.
Mines not bad. My wife tolerates my computer fixation, dirt bike and urge to occasionally butter her grill.
I think we have the same father, is one of his wives named Stacey.  If so we are brothers.  And thanks for calling my parents marriage a sham you turdnugget.  Just because dad kicked your mom to the curb doesn't mean you can go around calling dad's other marriages a scam.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6930|Tampa Bay Florida
I have an idea.. it will sound sick and perverted to some of you but it could be an option for homosexuals to have kids.  If they don't want to, I would understand, but they could.....

Male homosexual couple = donate sperm to female homosexual couple.  They, uh, somehow fertilize themselves with it, therefore having two babies.  Then they send one baby to the male homosexuals.

Yeah, kinda screwed up isn't it.  Don't negative karma me, I was thinking outloud
yerded
Bertinator
+255|6876|Westminster, California

Major_Spittle wrote:

yerded wrote:

My dad's a Utah polygamist with three wives.
Those marriages and a lot of my friends seem like a sham.
Mines not bad. My wife tolerates my computer fixation, dirt bike and urge to occasionally butter her grill.
I think we have the same father, is one of his wives named Stacey.  If so we are brothers.  And thanks for calling my parents marriage a sham you turdnugget.  Just because dad kicked your mom to the curb doesn't mean you can go around calling dad's other marriages a scam.
God,  I always wondered what happened to you!
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6895|United States of America

yerded wrote:

Major_Spittle wrote:

yerded wrote:

My dad's a Utah polygamist with three wives.
Those marriages and a lot of my friends seem like a sham.
Mines not bad. My wife tolerates my computer fixation, dirt bike and urge to occasionally butter her grill.
I think we have the same father, is one of his wives named Stacey.  If so we are brothers.  And thanks for calling my parents marriage a sham you turdnugget.  Just because dad kicked your mom to the curb doesn't mean you can go around calling dad's other marriages a scam.
God,  I always wondered what happened to you!
Well, after I said goodbye to my Moms and Dad I headed for Europe.  Did I ever mention that in Europe the call the Whopper the Royal..... How messed up is that.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7016|Antwerp, Flanders

Spearhead wrote:

I have an idea.. it will sound sick and perverted to some of you but it could be an option for homosexuals to have kids.  If they don't want to, I would understand, but they could.....

Male homosexual couple = donate sperm to female homosexual couple.  They, uh, somehow fertilize themselves with it, therefore having two babies.  Then they send one baby to the male homosexuals.

Yeah, kinda screwed up isn't it.  Don't negative karma me, I was thinking outloud
Yes. But which baby to send? Truly perverse...
Bigwrm
I want my money, or my bud!
+33|6899

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Gay Marriage means NOTHING. The main point of getting married is to have children and they wont be called bastards.

Gays cant create children.
Gays spread disease and aids and stick their things in peanut cluster assholes.
Gays who grow up with adopted children is harmful and will grow up to be gay.

Marriage is between a man and woman you wanna be gay prance around find but dont think you have any special rights especially to ever get married.
How does it feel knowing (hopefully)  you are a complete fucking retard?

  Shall we force divorce on every married couple that has anal sex?  What about couples that choose not to have children?  You spread more disease with your pathetic homophobia than any gay person ever has.  Any evidence to back up that statement? 

  And a gay couple cant raise children?  They will grow up to be gay?  Proof? 

Thats what I thought you fucking moron.  If there really was a god he would wipe bacteria like you off the earth and make room for the people that deserve the air they breathe.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6914|Canberra, AUS

Bigwrm wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Gay Marriage means NOTHING. The main point of getting married is to have children and they wont be called bastards.

Gays cant create children.
Gays spread disease and aids and stick their things in peanut cluster assholes.
Gays who grow up with adopted children is harmful and will grow up to be gay.

Marriage is between a man and woman you wanna be gay prance around find but dont think you have any special rights especially to ever get married.
How does it feel knowing (hopefully)  you are a complete fucking retard?

  Shall we force divorce on every married couple that has anal sex?  What about couples that choose not to have children?  You spread more disease with your pathetic homophobia than any gay person ever has.  Any evidence to back up that statement? 

  And a gay couple cant raise children?  They will grow up to be gay?  Proof? 

Thats what I thought you fucking moron.  If there really was a god he would wipe bacteria like you off the earth and make room for the people that deserve the air they breathe.
Most of us reached your conclusion long before (a few montsh ago, maybe?)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6930|Tampa Bay Florida

Rosse_modest wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I have an idea.. it will sound sick and perverted to some of you but it could be an option for homosexuals to have kids.  If they don't want to, I would understand, but they could.....

Male homosexual couple = donate sperm to female homosexual couple.  They, uh, somehow fertilize themselves with it, therefore having two babies.  Then they send one baby to the male homosexuals.

Yeah, kinda screwed up isn't it.  Don't negative karma me, I was thinking outloud
Yes. But which baby to send? Truly perverse...
flip a coin
Bigwrm
I want my money, or my bud!
+33|6899

Spark wrote:

Bigwrm wrote:

Berserk_Vampire wrote:

Gay Marriage means NOTHING. The main point of getting married is to have children and they wont be called bastards.

Gays cant create children.
Gays spread disease and aids and stick their things in peanut cluster assholes.
Gays who grow up with adopted children is harmful and will grow up to be gay.

Marriage is between a man and woman you wanna be gay prance around find but dont think you have any special rights especially to ever get married.
How does it feel knowing (hopefully)  you are a complete fucking retard?

  Shall we force divorce on every married couple that has anal sex?  What about couples that choose not to have children?  You spread more disease with your pathetic homophobia than any gay person ever has.  Any evidence to back up that statement? 

  And a gay couple cant raise children?  They will grow up to be gay?  Proof? 

Thats what I thought you fucking moron.  If there really was a god he would wipe bacteria like you off the earth and make room for the people that deserve the air they breathe.
Most of us reached your conclusion long before (a few montsh ago, maybe?)
I wish I was an internet hero and could read every post after it was written but sadly I cannot.  Thanks for your input.  Sorry for the tardy reply
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7011|PNW

The OP list is irrelevant. Divorce is too commonplace nowadays to assign any sort of one-sided onus to that group of people.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6801
Your point?  The fact that divorce is incredibly commonplace further reduces the importance of the sanctity of marriage argument.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7011|PNW

Bubbalo wrote:

Your point?  The fact that divorce is incredibly commonplace further reduces the importance of the sanctity of marriage argument.
So you're pretty much saying that it's a terrible, rotten thing...marriage. I'm afraid that's a matter of opinion, and there are more important things to do in the world than to abolish marriage, no matter how horrible anyone thinks it is.

I don't see any problem with a man and a woman who love eachother to seal the bond by law. The idea that an increase in a particular activity reduces its importance is silly. In an extreme scenario, if government buildings being bombed in your country suddenly became "incredibly commonplace," would you assign to them reduced importance? Just because minimart stick-ups are a commonplace activity doesn't mean I'd rush out to do it. If one of my friends jumped off of a bridge, I wouldn't follow them. And if I was married, I wouldn't rush headlong into a divorce just because other people are doing it.

Do I have to explain and iterate every one of my posts in utmost detail to you?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-06-11 04:14:51)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6801
Before I begin, I have to ask: what the hell are you on?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

So you're pretty much saying that it's a terrible, rotten thing...marriage.
Where did I say that?  I merely said that the idea that marriage should be limited to certain unions to protect it's sanctity because divorce is already so commonplace.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I'm afraid that's a matter of opinion,
Well duh.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

and there are more important things to do in the world than to abolish marriage, no matter how horrible anyone thinks it is.
Who talking about abolishing marriage?

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

The idea that an increase in a particular activity reduces its importance is silly.  In an extreme scenario, if government buildings being bombed in your country suddenly became "incredibly commonplace," would you assign to them reduced importance? Just because minimart stick-ups are a commonplace activity doesn't mean I'd rush out to do it. If one of my friends jumped off of a bridge, I wouldn't follow them. And if I was married, I wouldn't rush headlong into a divorce just because other people are doing it.
Actually, when something happens more often the effect is reduced.  Look at countries where murder is commonplace, and compare the reaction of the populace to the reaction in a country where it rarely happens.  Seriously, this whole paragraph is outright wrong.  There's not any question about it, at all.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Do I have to explain and iterate every one of my posts in utmost detail to you?
Actually, you do have to iterate every one of your posts.  Otherwise noone can read them.  I find it funny that you criticise my comprehension when you're the one who doesn't seem to have understood anything I've said.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7016|Antwerp, Flanders

Spearhead wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I have an idea.. it will sound sick and perverted to some of you but it could be an option for homosexuals to have kids.  If they don't want to, I would understand, but they could.....

Male homosexual couple = donate sperm to female homosexual couple.  They, uh, somehow fertilize themselves with it, therefore having two babies.  Then they send one baby to the male homosexuals.

Yeah, kinda screwed up isn't it.  Don't negative karma me, I was thinking outloud
Yes. But which baby to send? Truly perverse...
flip a coin
Yes. But which coin to flip? And who's gonna flip it? It just keeps on getting more perverse...
Cougar
Banned
+1,962|7004|Dallas
I really don't see why this issue is a debate, gays SHOULD NOT be allowed to marry.  Period.

Why?

For one it is not natural.  Marriage is the human way of showing that we are homogeneous(sp?), or rather that we have the same partner throughout life that we bear children with.  Geese are another example except without the marriage part.  If a goose's partner dies it doesn't reproduce with another male or female for the rest of it's life.  Humans have created "marriage" is our way of showing this, even though the majority aren't very good at it.  Two fags cannot reproduce and therefore in a natural sense of the word, have no reason to be married.

Second, it's disgusting.  They stick their PENISES in each other's BUTTHOLE'S.  Not natural, not good, the state does not need to recognize that these two dudes toss each others salad.  It's gross.  Ever seen two dude's making out?  Made ya wanna vomit huh?  Imagine going to marriages and hearing the preacher say, "you may now kiss the groom's" followed by two homo's making out.  No thanks.

Third, they have sex with each other.  Not good.  That shouldn't be a religiously and federally sanctioned event.  Personally, I'm a bit confused on the whole homosexuality thing because I look at my ass in the mirror and in no way whatsoever does it look enticing or delicious.  If your the kinda guy that would choose a hairy, sweaty shit crusted ass over a well shaved and juicy vagina and a pair of tits........then there is something wrong with your brain.  Seriously.

Fourth, its disgusting.  I once experimented with anal sex with my girlfriend......I won't go into details but let's just say things got really gross really fast and it didn't smell to great either.  For all those wanting to try it...don't, it ain't all it's cracked up to be in porno's.  To simulate, take a fresh dump in the toilet and then get on your knees and stick your face in the bowl and start masturbating, not that great.  These people do it willingly and they ENJOY it.  What's worse is they do it with other guys.  WTF!?

Fifth, lesbians.  99.999999% of lesbians are women who couldn't get a decent guy if they tried and they wear alot of plaid and have stupid flattop haircuts.  This is not what growing up with Hustler taught me, but it's true.  It's almost as disgusting as guy fags but not quite.  I don't know how many of you have smelled vagina after a day in denim, but it ain't pleasant.  All lesbians wear is denim, so use your imagination.

Sixth.  Why in the fuck would anyone want to be gay?  Because they are fucking idiots, or at least thats the only reason I can come up with.  Rebellious perhaps?  I don't know but I feel sorry for the kids that have to grow up with two daddies or two mommies, how weird is that at high school graduation or at a Parent Teacher Conference?  Forget friends, that kid is branded for life and will probably end up gay himself/herself.

Lets recap:

1. Not natural
2. Disgusting
3. Not good.
4. Disgusting.
5. Weird
6. Bad future for children.

I rest my case.

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