Cybargs
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+2,285|6945

PspRpg-7 wrote:

Where the hell did the term 'yanks' come from, and should I be offended? -.-
Yank is a slang for american in england and the commenwealth.

well if the gas can work efficiently on cars (4 ounce for 100 miles!!!) if they can really do that amount, not some scam then i might look forward to using this technology. then hydroelectricity will become more efficient.
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konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6779|CH/BR - in UK

Hey: if it' a new solution to the modern oil and pollution problem, I'm not going to complain. Prove that it works, spread it around, and everyone can stop polluting so much, and we might still be able to save the world;).
You just have to have some faith in the scientists for once...
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6882

Konfusion0 wrote:

Hey: if it' a new solution to the modern oil and pollution problem, I'm not going to complain. Prove that it works, spread it around, and everyone can stop polluting so much, and we might still be able to save the world;).
You just have to have some faith in the scientists for once...
Which scientists?  The ones with lots of letters after their name who say it violates the laws of Thermodynamics, or the guy who runs a company set up to sell a dated and inviable technology who doesn't have any letters after his name?
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7067

King_County_Downy wrote:

Hydro-electric dams?
Not enough of those to matter.

EDIT:  Not that I want the world to be slaves to the underground rotted waste from plants that a bunch of terrorists control.   This instance just happens to be a crock of shit.

I want some thing better than fossil fuels worse than most people, but 'free' energy from water is a pipe dream that surfaces every once in a while to bilk investors out of money.

I say invest in biodiesel and invest heavy.  That is the wave of the future.

Last edited by Burning_Monkey (2006-06-09 05:10:29)

PekkaA
Member
+36|6893|Finland

Burning_Monkey wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

Hydro-electric dams?
Not enough of those to matter.

EDIT:  Not that I want the world to be slaves to the underground rotted waste from plants that a bunch of terrorists control.   This instance just happens to be a crock of shit.

I want some thing better than fossil fuels worse than most people, but 'free' energy from water is a pipe dream that surfaces every once in a while to bilk investors out of money.

I say invest in biodiesel and invest heavy.  That is the wave of the future.
I agree. And I tank biodiesel to my VW. Now keep those hippie accusations coming.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

Konfusion0 wrote:

Hey: if it' a new solution to the modern oil and pollution problem, I'm not going to complain. Prove that it works, spread it around, and everyone can stop polluting so much, and we might still be able to save the world;).
You just have to have some faith in the scientists for once...
Which scientists?  The ones with lots of letters after their name who say it violates the laws of Thermodynamics, or the guy who runs a company set up to sell a dated and inviable technology who doesn't have any letters after his name?
Indeed, these men are primarily businessmen, and not so much scientists.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6995|UK

Burning_Monkey wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

Hydro-electric dams?
Not enough of those to matter.

EDIT:  Not that I want the world to be slaves to the underground rotted waste from plants that a bunch of terrorists control.   This instance just happens to be a crock of shit.

I want some thing better than fossil fuels worse than most people, but 'free' energy from water is a pipe dream that surfaces every once in a while to bilk investors out of money.

I say invest in biodiesel and invest heavy.  That is the wave of the future.
i agree with your first statement but burning anything to produce gases and liquids with Carbon and hydrogen in them are NOT the way forward. Global warming may or may not be truely happening as its too soon to say if its a natural change that is starting to happen or human influenced but that doesnt mean we should push our luck, renewables and nuclear are the way forward. Renewable just needs more investment before it becomes truly viable and nuclear is just completly not understood by people that havent done physics or have knowledge on the subject.
Poncho
and I'm not a raincoat...
+91|6936|NL
Rofl. This is soooo old news. They used water as fuel already on the MOON.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7005|Antwerp, Flanders

Poncho wrote:

Rofl. This is soooo old news. They used water as fuel already on the MOON.
Yes that was hydrogen gas this is supposed to be something else.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6995|UK

Poncho wrote:

Rofl. This is soooo old news. They used water as fuel already on the MOON.
you silly raincoat...
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7067

Vilham wrote:

Burning_Monkey wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

Hydro-electric dams?
Not enough of those to matter.

EDIT:  Not that I want the world to be slaves to the underground rotted waste from plants that a bunch of terrorists control.   This instance just happens to be a crock of shit.

I want some thing better than fossil fuels worse than most people, but 'free' energy from water is a pipe dream that surfaces every once in a while to bilk investors out of money.

I say invest in biodiesel and invest heavy.  That is the wave of the future.
i agree with your first statement but burning anything to produce gases and liquids with Carbon and hydrogen in them are NOT the way forward. Global warming may or may not be truely happening as its too soon to say if its a natural change that is starting to happen or human influenced but that doesnt mean we should push our luck, renewables and nuclear are the way forward. Renewable just needs more investment before it becomes truly viable and nuclear is just completly not understood by people that havent done physics or have knowledge on the subject.
Biodiesel is a renewable resource.

Plant kudzu and get vegetable oil from it, make diesel from that and we are good to go.  Burns cleaner than petroleum diesel, better for the engines, and a shit load cheaper.

We just need to make it happen.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6882

Vilham wrote:

Renewable just needs more investment before it becomes truly viable and nuclear is just completly not understood by people that havent done physics or have knowledge on the subject.
Or remember Cheynobyl...
Cybargs
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+2,285|6945

Rosse_modest wrote:

Poncho wrote:

Rofl. This is soooo old news. They used water as fuel already on the MOON.
Yes that was hydrogen gas this is supposed to be something else.
yes it was hydrogen gas, not exactly water... if we had this tech 40 yrs ago the pollution on the earth wont be as bad
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Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6995|UK
Wow you know fuel depots never burn do they... ofcourse they fucking do, and they create crap loads of polution too. Cheynobyl was a nuclear incident that wouldnt have happened if it had been managed correctly. Nuclear tech is not that bad, 1 incident in the world that has fully gone wrong but you know a couple wars and lots of deaths from crude oil is completly ignored, oil spillages create huge enviroment problems.
Burning_monkey my point was we dont want to rely on burning things, i know fully well biodiesel is renewable but it still produces CO2 which is just pushing our luck.
kn0ckahh
Member
+98|6967|netherlands, sweet lake city
well its not making energy its just transforing the energie into gas wich can be used to make energie again
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6826|Seattle

Everyone who disagrees with me is dumb. So there. -
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6797|Oxford

Vilham wrote:

Wow you know fuel depots never burn do they... ofcourse they fucking do, and they create crap loads of polution too. Cheynobyl was a nuclear incident that wouldnt have happened if it had been managed correctly. Nuclear tech is not that bad, 1 incident in the world that has fully gone wrong but you know a couple wars and lots of deaths from crude oil is completly ignored, oil spillages create huge enviroment problems.
Burning_monkey my point was we dont want to rely on burning things, i know fully well biodiesel is renewable but it still produces CO2 which is just pushing our luck.
I kind of agree. Nuclear fuel should be the way forward, it solves so many problems. Unfortunately one of the problems it raises we are unable to do anything about at the moment, namely nuclear waste. This shit stays around for tens of thousands of years. There's even a consortium getting together to come up with new nuclear waste warning signs because the current ones probably wont be understood so far into the future.

Ever the optimist, I'd like to think technology will overcome these obstacles though.
alpinestar
Member
+304|6825|New York City baby.
Patent office shows nothing on Aquygen or inventor klein you figure.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6779|CH/BR - in UK

Hmm...
Well, Í'd invest in anything but petrole, oil or other of those sorts of energy resources. It's just too much pollution that we're dealing with if we use those resources, we're just damaging our surroundings, and in this case it is improbable that we will find a way to renew it or find a new surrounding to live in...
We need to start thinking about the future, and the business men should do that too.
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7067

Vilham wrote:

Wow you know fuel depots never burn do they... ofcourse they fucking do, and they create crap loads of polution too. Cheynobyl was a nuclear incident that wouldnt have happened if it had been managed correctly. Nuclear tech is not that bad, 1 incident in the world that has fully gone wrong but you know a couple wars and lots of deaths from crude oil is completly ignored, oil spillages create huge enviroment problems.
Burning_monkey my point was we dont want to rely on burning things, i know fully well biodiesel is renewable but it still produces CO2 which is just pushing our luck.
what about all the trash that nuclear energy produces?  All the uniforms, all the badges, spent fuel, contaminated water?  All that stuff has to be dealt with.  Nuclear power is not the end all, be all option that some people make it out to be.  And uranium doesn't last that long so you are still consuming a resource that can't be replaced.
irenicus999
Member
+0|6972

Burning_Monkey wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Wow you know fuel depots never burn do they... ofcourse they fucking do, and they create crap loads of polution too. Cheynobyl was a nuclear incident that wouldnt have happened if it had been managed correctly. Nuclear tech is not that bad, 1 incident in the world that has fully gone wrong but you know a couple wars and lots of deaths from crude oil is completly ignored, oil spillages create huge enviroment problems.
Burning_monkey my point was we dont want to rely on burning things, i know fully well biodiesel is renewable but it still produces CO2 which is just pushing our luck.
what about all the trash that nuclear energy produces?  All the uniforms, all the badges, spent fuel, contaminated water?  All that stuff has to be dealt with.  Nuclear power is not the end all, be all option that some people make it out to be.  And uranium doesn't last that long so you are still consuming a resource that can't be replaced.
You're right about waste creation, but you can significantly extend the nuclear fuel resources.  All you need are breeders and reprocessing plants...of course, these come with their own environmental/political problems.
LoMaX
Member
+24|6763|Sweden is banned from hell ;)
Sleep... yawn... zzzzzzz...

Can Sb just start over in this thread? That!!! would be cool.

PEACE / Zhaman
GeneralDodo
Member
+5|6924
ever heard of a steam-powered boat?
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7067

irenicus999 wrote:

Burning_Monkey wrote:

Vilham wrote:

Wow you know fuel depots never burn do they... ofcourse they fucking do, and they create crap loads of polution too. Cheynobyl was a nuclear incident that wouldnt have happened if it had been managed correctly. Nuclear tech is not that bad, 1 incident in the world that has fully gone wrong but you know a couple wars and lots of deaths from crude oil is completly ignored, oil spillages create huge enviroment problems.
Burning_monkey my point was we dont want to rely on burning things, i know fully well biodiesel is renewable but it still produces CO2 which is just pushing our luck.
what about all the trash that nuclear energy produces?  All the uniforms, all the badges, spent fuel, contaminated water?  All that stuff has to be dealt with.  Nuclear power is not the end all, be all option that some people make it out to be.  And uranium doesn't last that long so you are still consuming a resource that can't be replaced.
You're right about waste creation, but you can significantly extend the nuclear fuel resources.  All you need are breeders and reprocessing plants...of course, these come with their own environmental/political problems.
I would say that a breeder has it's own environmental problems.

Here is hoping that we never have a breeder melt down ever.
LoMaX
Member
+24|6763|Sweden is banned from hell ;)

GeneralDodo wrote:

ever heard of a steam-powered boat?
Yes and another yawn...

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