Trel
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^

Rife with hilarity, +1.
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RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6808|Oxford

Major_Spittle wrote:

Do you people realize you are stupid??? Cuz I don't think stupid people realize it.  Kinda sad that everyone knows your stupid, but your oblivious to it and just keep on saying real real stupid things over and over.
Lol if the bush administration did have anything to do with it they'd love people like you...
ShellShock.PwN
Member
+31|7027|Barrie Ontario
i Ment pictures of the plane. +1 for the parking lot sign

Last edited by ShellShock.PwN (2006-06-03 10:59:04)

TerrorisT²
Melbourne Shuffler
+214|6865|Gold Coast, Australia

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

Planes do not vaporize. Anyone that has seen any plane wreck knows that.
Actually they do turn to dust if it is a direct hit into a concrete wall, check out this video for proof...

It was a test for Japanese nuclear reactors to see if a crazed kamikaze pilot would try to attack it. Good Results in the end

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 0012109745
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6894|United States of America

Trel wrote:

No debris was found on the other side.  Check your facts, exlax.
You just said 3 buildings were damaged.  In a row I would assume like a plane flew into/through them.  Let me guess the 1st building had a big hole like the WTC buildings had, then the hole got smaller in the second, and smaller yet in the 3rd.  hmmm, can you guess where the plane went now????

BTW: Where did all the desks and computers and stuff go when the WTC buildings fell???? Ever look at those pics.  Hmmmm, yet another conspiracy. 

WOW, what am I missing here other than the people arguing are as dumb as they come????
Trel
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Major_Spittle wrote:

Trel wrote:

No debris was found on the other side.  Check your facts, exlax.
You just said 3 buildings were damaged.  In a row I would assume like a plane flew into/through them.  Let me guess the 1st building had a big hole like the WTC buildings had, then the hole got smaller in the second, and smaller yet in the 3rd.  hmmm, can you guess where the plane went now????
No, I'm not a wreckage expert, so I can't guess where the plane went.  But nobody has told me or shown me where yet, so I will continue to remain skeptical until I see credible evidence of Boeing 747 wreckage within the Pentagon.

Also, it is true the holes would get smaller as they went into the building, but this does not negate the fact the plane debris would be present.

Again, where is the debris from the plane that struck the pentagon?
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ShellShock.PwN
Member
+31|7027|Barrie Ontario
If there is an exit hole then where is the object that made the hole. Your arguing something that doesnt matter to what we are saying. If there is a hole that means SOMETHING came out of it. Your the stupid one not us.
Trel
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Oh, and I'd assume that desks and computers, made of flimsy materials, were incenerated in the fireball.

Not Titanium (which 747 engines have numerouns components made out of) however, which would need extreme temperatures for a prolonged period of time before it would even begin to melt, conditions not present in the Pentagon crash.
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tupla_s
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+455|6832|Finland
http://news.uns.purdue.edu/html4ever/02 … tagon.html

Last edited by tupla_s (2006-06-03 11:08:57)

Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6894|United States of America
OK, you guys have convinced me.  Nobody took pictures of plane debris to show you.  You win, Your right.  Now go acquit O.J. or something.
Trel
Member
+70|6916

Major_Spittle wrote:

OK, you guys have convinced me.  Nobody took pictures of plane debris to show you.  You win, Your right.  Now go acquit O.J. or something.
Yes, no cameras were present to take a picture, and none were available until all the wreckage was hauled away.  It was the worst camera shortage since '82.

If there was wreckage, there would have been a picture.  And there are videos and pictures being withheld at this time, and all I want to know is, why?

Oh yes, it is also true that since I am skeptical about the events of 9/11, I believe OJ was innocent.  My bad, folks.

Last edited by Trel (2006-06-03 11:13:47)

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remo
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

Just read it already.  Use that same "open mind" you had when you read the conspiracy theory sites.  Why would anyone want to FAKE an airliner hitting the Pentagon when they could just DO SO??  If you want a conspiracy, at least ask the right questions.
Trel
Member
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Both of those sites provide good information that makes sense, but the mere fact that there are the other sites that question what happened is enough to make an assumption that maybe we don't know everything.
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CC-Marley
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+407|7068

RicardoBlanco wrote:

This is fun...

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/ … urs_en.htm

You try and find it..
Here is wreckage...dumbasses! jk http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911 … dence.html
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/CC-Marley/wreckage.jpg
Here is that same piece of wreckage(bottom left), different angle, "airbrushed" blurry this time...lol
https://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/CC-Marley/shot07a.jpg

Last edited by CC-Marley (2006-06-03 15:01:50)

Agemman
Member
+9|6830
Maybe th USA was looking for an excuse to attack the Middle East?
remo
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And that's enough to make a conspiracy out of it?  Come on.  The government isn't THAT smart to have concocted such a scheme with all the so-called "holes" conveniently having answers.

There are many examples in history of the government having tried to do something grandeose and fucking it up because somebody talked.  Someone ALWAYS talks ... where is the good source of information that rebukes it all?!?!  The answer is:  there isn't one.  There are just a lot of people spewing about "where's the answer" to this or that and they completely overlook the obvious. 

The obvious and simple answer is usually the correct one.  An airliner hit the Pentagon.  Why does it take a video to prove it?!  The scientific evidence all points to it.  There are images of airliner pieces on the ground.  The passengers manifested to the plane were found in the wreckage.  There are eyewitness accounts.

If you want a REAL conspiracy, riddle me this.  Would 20 lightly-armed men be able to commandeer four airliners ... three of which are able to reach their targets?  Or was it really a conspiracy by the government to start a war?  That's a better question than "did an airliner hit a building?"  ...
CommieChipmunk
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+488|6809|Portland, OR, USA

remo wrote:

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf - Pentagon Building Performance Report

Here you all go.  Enough conspiracy BS.  This is straight from the experts ... ACSE/SEI (American Society of Civil Engineers / Structural Engineering Institute)
funny how you cant really trust anything the government says these days, they have a funny way of covering things up
Trel
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On a second look, that AboveTopSecret site looks rather shady.  Hell, the banner add takes you to a MySpace of some guy who wants to "Take down the police state" or something.  What the hell? Not only that but it is full of links dealing with even wackier conspiracies than what we are talking about.

Last edited by Trel (2006-06-03 11:31:09)

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Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6894|United States of America

Trel wrote:

Both of those sites provide good information that makes sense, but the mere fact that there are the other sites that question what happened is enough to make an assumption that maybe we don't know everything.
The links shows the pictures of debris.  You wanted to know what happened to the plane, from nearest I can tell it hit a building.  Good thing there were pictures, other wise a person might not have been able to figure that out and would think it is all a conspiracy.  You stupid wanker.
remo
Member
+20|6816

CommieChipmunk wrote:

remo wrote:

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf - Pentagon Building Performance Report

Here you all go.  Enough conspiracy BS.  This is straight from the experts ... ACSE/SEI (American Society of Civil Engineers / Structural Engineering Institute)
funny how you cant really trust anything the government says these days, they have a funny way of covering things up
ACSE/SEI aren't government institutions.  This was an independent study.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7068

Trel wrote:

On a second look, that AboveTopSecret site looks rather shady.  Hell, the banner add takes you to a MySpace of some guy who wants to "Take down the police state" or something.  What the hell? Not only that but it is full of links dealing with even wackier conspiracies than what we are talking about.
Pictures are pictures. Clearly there is plane wreckage at the crash site.
Trel
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A picture is worth a thousand words.  Adobe Photoshop CS2 is worth 649 dollars.

I just want something offical is all, not something on a backwards conspiricist forum.
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CC-Marley
Member
+407|7068
Omg you are "thick"! They airbrushed all the photos... Shawdows and all.....sigh...

Last edited by CC-Marley (2006-06-03 11:44:20)

Trel
Member
+70|6916

Major_Spittle wrote:

You stupid wanker.
Seriously, I have refrained from engaging in a name calling battle with you, even though you have tried to start one.  Do you need to attempt to insult someone to make your case?  Or is that because you have to, because you have no point to argue?

Talk to me once you graduate middle school, then maybe you can hold a conservation without degrading yourself.
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Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6894|United States of America

Trel wrote:

A picture is worth a thousand words.  Adobe Photoshop CS2 is worth 649 dollars.

I just want something offical is all, not something on a backwards conspiricist forum.
Do you wear a rubber nose a floppy shoes????

Here is something official, your an idiot and don't realize it.

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