BF2S Forums What macro shall I make?????

theDude5B wrote:

Speelbal wrote:

I run out of ammo constantly...

I run out of ammo a lot aswell. if you are good enough to stay alive, then you always end up running out because there is never a support guy around when u need one, and when there is he/she doesnt know that someone is asking for ammo so dont drop any.

What weapon do you use though?  I use the DAO-12 Mostly and with that you get 58 bullets.  I can normally take someone out with 2-4 so unless you can kill 15-29 people without dying ammo will never be a problem. 

Evil-fruits|ST4R wrote:

i know macros arnt classed as cheating but they give a unfair advantage, what chance do you have against a dao 12 from close range if hes using a rapid fire macro.

i have nothing against macros if everybody used them but hardly anyone  does so its a big advantage

A DAO-12 at close range should give you no chance (unless you're using it too or the Jackhammer) because that what the gun is designed for, close range combat.  The same as I would have no chance against a PKM at medium range, it's how the game's balanced.  As for rapid fire, I tested it and I can shoot just as fast using the mouse button but as I said it hurts after a while (the point being I could do it without the macro).  Also, rapid fire doesn't take the recoil off, if you just hold the button the gun will end up in the air by the end of the clip so you still have to use your mouse to counteract the recoil.

I really think some of the macro-basher should try it for a day, I thought it would improve me vastly and make me some uber God but macros really don't improve your gameplay or give you any gameplay advantage, they just help you do things you can do anyways....

i got it! macros give an advantage because they dont rely on reaction times. there you go that is why they are unfair to us, they just rely on computer speeds.

what about the reaction time of clicking the mouse button? It increases dramatically.

=OBS= EstebanRey you clearly are a nub.

MACROS ARE FOR NOOBS, get some skills

RSI = wanker, press the keys yourself, 'don't help' BAH you are clearly demonstrating your simple nature

note: you don't have to worry about ammo cause your kdr is less than 1! ROFL

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Vilham wrote:

i got it! macros give an advantage because they dont rely on reaction times. there you go that is why they are unfair to us, they just rely on computer speeds.

The macro doesn't automatically turn on by itself though, I still have to initiate it by pressing the key I've assigned it to.  You still get the reaction time between me thinking about it and me pressing the button though....

yes but with the shotty we have to press the mouse repeatedly whereas you only press once. Thus decreasing reaction times hugely.

panderiz wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey you clearly are a nub.

MACROS ARE FOR NOOBS, get some skills

RSI = wanker, press the keys yourself, 'don't help' BAH you are clearly demonstrating your simple nature

note: you don't have to worry about ammo cause your kdr is less than 1! ROFL

I presum this is you http://www.bf2stats.nl/player/44395526/

I really wouldn't go slagging anyone else off with stats like yours.  Let me guess, Panderiz loads up game selects US team, Spec Ops, gets in tank and repeat.  Man you're the most one dimensional player I've ever seen!  At least I have a good mix of kills/time with other kits and armies you just use one kit, one army and one weapon - the "K improver for utter noobs" the tank!  Man you have 13,000 kills with armour I would be embarrassed!!!!

MuseSeeker wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

MuseSeeker wrote:

what about the reaction time of clicking the mouse button? It increases dramatically.

I don't understand, are you saying there is a time difference between me pressing the mouse button on my right hand (not using a macro) and pressing my macro'd joystick button with my left?

Yes because your macro automatically shoots the dao - whilst without the macro you have to shoot it yourself

It doesn't automatically shoot the DAO, how would it know when I was infront of an enemy.  I still have to press the button on my joystick, all it does is then keep pressing it but as I said before I can press it that fast manually

sgt_mango333 wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how macros are cheating?  Can someone please explain this to me?

theDude, I take your point but with every man and his dog using the support class and the generous amount of ammo you get anyway, how often do you really run out of ammo/need to think about ammo conservation?

Fine, here's your explanation.  Mapping your buttons to different positions is fine.  But show me the mapping that allows you to rapid fire a DAO in one second.   If you have to push the button 12 times, you are playing the game as it is intended.  If you are pushing one button and holding it for the same effect...cheat.

Any of your macros that spam a button or combine multiple button pushes into one is a cheat.  You are no longer simply mapping buttons as you are in game.  It is very different from just reassigning one button for easier access.

-1 for you.

"same effect",  and there is the flaw in your argument.  The macro does nothing that couldn't be done without it......

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

sgt_mango333 wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

I'm still waiting for someone to explain how macros are cheating?  Can someone please explain this to me?

theDude, I take your point but with every man and his dog using the support class and the generous amount of ammo you get anyway, how often do you really run out of ammo/need to think about ammo conservation?

Fine, here's your explanation.  Mapping your buttons to different positions is fine.  But show me the mapping that allows you to rapid fire a DAO in one second.   If you have to push the button 12 times, you are playing the game as it is intended.  If you are pushing one button and holding it for the same effect...cheat.

Any of your macros that spam a button or combine multiple button pushes into one is a cheat.  You are no longer simply mapping buttons as you are in game.  It is very different from just reassigning one button for easier access.

-1 for you.

"same effect",  and there is the flaw in your argument.  The macro does nothing that couldn't be done without it......

That's the whole freaking point moron....do it without it.  I'd be willing to bet that if I set up a poll on this topic as to whether or not your macros are cheating you would be blown out of the water.  It doesn't matter if you can do it or not.  BTW, you can't because you've complained of the pain already in this thread from repeated manual labor.

We don't need a poll, this will be better...if you think EstebanRey is cheating give him negative one and me positive.  If he is legite, give me negative one and EstabanRey positive. 

We'll settle this right now without a poll.

Yes, it does. The difference is after you hit your macro to fire the DAO, you can concentrate 100% on the aim. The rest of us who don't use macros to make up for a lack of talent have to focus on firing our weapons, and aiming them as well.

On top of that, each mouseclick you hit has a potential to throw your aim off a bit. So yes, you're cheating. Want to know my reasoning? Find a CAL, TWL, or CPL tournament that doesn't define using macros in any FPS game as cheating. Go for it. You can't go into a LAN party or a professional/amateur gaming tournament with macros and not get kicked out. Know why? It's an unfair advantage, it's cheating. Play the game as it was intended, please.

Sarrk wrote:

The alt+F4 marco works great, you should definitly bind it to every button

seriously, that macro is so much fun, i completley own with it, you should give it an in game try!

Not wrote:

On top of that, each mouseclick you hit has a potential to throw your aim off a bit. So yes, you're cheating. .

Yeah but you could easily set up a non-mouse button as your secondary fire without the macro and get the same effect.  i.e you have spacebar as fire and manually spam that as you guide your mouse.  You don't HAVE to use the left mouse button as fire.

Another interesting point is that with my joystick I got a BF2 flyer.  My joystick comes with profiling software so why would EA bundle advertisements ofr their game with a product that supports macros if it was against their rules?


Couldn't find any polls but these guys don't consider it cheating http://www.overclockers.co.nz/forums/sh … p?p=269664

They are from New Zealand... they sh*g sheep and don't consider that cheating!!!