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2006-05-28 04:14:19
Trel
Member
+70|6678
From all Commanders to EA... <3.

It brings me no greater joy than being able to keep an opponents Arty down for an entire round.  Unless he's got a savvy Engineer, hes screwed!  Bah, so what if he has an Engineer who isn't running around shotguning nubs. The impending explosion from my personal escort doing what it was meant to do (take out Arty and snipers... who the hell uses cars for transport?) also kills anybody repairing the Arty.  Hey EA, how come I don't get credit for the kill or taking out an enemy asset? Maybe you guys will fix that in the next patch. 

Not only can a well placed set of wheels and seats take out an Arty asset, but the ability to drop a car resets so fast that I can take out both, sometimes all three if the map permits, before he can fire off a second Arty shot.  Huzzah!  Who needs Spec Ops? The game was meant to only allow one commander the use of Arty anyway... ME.  Again, another problem (bug to be fixed????? plzkthx) is that I can't also take out UAV Trailers and Sat Scan (all the time).  Why not?  As a commander, I should be able to do whatever I want with my pimp-mobiles.  Suggestion: Dropping a car on a flag means the enemy can't cap it.  Brilliant!

Snipers? Talkin' 'bout Snipers?!  We don't need no stinkin' Snipers!  Trust me, all you enemy Snipers... I'm zoomed in (twice!) on you guys, just waiting for you to stand still so I can drop trou all over you.  I don't need to watch the rest of the map... my guys can handle themselves, we'll win anyway with my l33t cartillery skillz... besides, I got better things to do than place UAV and call out enemy movement... I gotta watch for "Random_n00b_tArD is no more."

Just try and cap one of my flags... I dare you.  The moment I see you within range of my flag, look up.  It's not a bird, nor a plane, it's my ride.  Faster than a speeding Arty strike, more precise than my lazy Sniper's L96A1's, it's my ride.  Eat it.  Now that WCR isn't W/L ratio based anymore, I gotta' whore up that juicy 2x Commander bonus for points.  Now that I got Expert Air Defense and Ground Defense, what else am I going to do?

Again, thank you so very much EA, for this wonderful, amazing, totally awesome ability.  You can hang with the cool kids now.

- Trel -
     -poppin' wheelies... from the safety of nowhere near combat.

(zomg ARTY DOWN FIX IT NOWZ!!!1 yuo guys all suck, fix my asstes how the hell it blow up nobody was there i just scaned!!11 fuk EA!1!!!)

((wtf since whn did engineers not gt teh DAO, wtfhax!!!1))

Last edited by Trel (2006-07-14 11:36:57)

Good to be back.
2006-05-28 05:19:13
Thumper04
"So there I was..."
+7|6630|Floriduh
Rofl. Guess they didn't quite think through the whole car-exploding thing, and or the no-drift-when-dropping thing.

Wait, EA? not think something through? say it ain't so!

However, when vehicle drops are used properly, i love them. saved my bacon a few times.
2006-05-28 05:30:26
rh27
Not really a Brit
+51|6597|England
If you really want to use the cars effectively, drop them on all the spawn points around an enemy flag. Then get your team to sit in them so they don't explode. Now the enemy can't spawn on that flag. Even works on uncaps.
2006-07-10 14:43:19
chittydog
less busy
+586|6836|Kubra, Damn it!

Trel wrote:

Bah, so what if he has an Engineer who isn't running around DAO-12'ing nubs.
The DAO comes with Anti-Tank, not Engineer.
2006-07-10 14:44:41
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|6579|Florida

chittydog wrote:

Trel wrote:

Bah, so what if he has an Engineer who isn't running around DAO-12'ing nubs.
The DAO comes with Anti-Tank, not Engineer.
I was thinking the same.
2006-07-14 00:37:59
T0xicboy
Member
+4|6509|the grim and cold north.
As a sniper or whatever you can always jam the E-button down with a chopstick or something else.
No need to worry about them after that.

Unless you lying close to a steep drop, and the commander is not dropping it directly on you.
The car lands and you auto-jump in, the car then tipples and fall 30 meters down... Yeeeaeaaaaa




/Toxic

Last edited by T0xicboy (2006-07-14 00:38:17)

2006-07-14 07:26:42
shadowcell_01
How 'bout dem Cowboys?
+45|6546|Flower Mound, TX
if he said isnt running around DAO-13ing nubs then he means that engineers are not anti tanks with doa-12's
2006-07-14 07:31:49
Orgtheone
Member
+30|6664|The Dark Side Of The Moon
using cartillary as a weapon is lame and unrealistic -1 if i could you suck ass Trel
2006-07-14 07:47:49
Twist
Too old to be doing this sh*t
+103|6524|Little blue planet, milky way

Orgtheone wrote:

using cartillary as a weapon is lame and unrealistic -1 if i could you suck ass Trel
Lol... you just dont get the concept of sarcasm, I take it.....

Noone LIKES that the car can be dropped more precise and faster than a supply crate, and noone likes that the two cars you can drop "respawn" so quickly that you can drop 4 or 5 in the time it takes for arty to reload. But all commanders use their car drop to take out enemies if they can.... That's just the way the game has evolved. In the old days it was good sport to supply crate enemy snipers... Admittedly, it was far more dependant on LUCK, but it was possible.

While I welcome any diversion from the regular commander responsibilities, I to find it distatefull to be able to drop cartillery on unsuspecting snipers... But I do it because I can. If Dice would simply make the commander role more challenging, then it would be more fun. At the moment people only command to get the precious 2x bonus. And most of the time I can score higher by NOT being commander anyway. But I'll admit that being commander and winning means that you're certain to get a reasonably high score each and every round.

If you really want things to change. Try giving the commander the ability to drop smoke to support his advancing troops. The ability to FORCE his troops to do his bidding (ok, unrealistic, but it would be nice if people would follow orders at least once in a while), the ability to actively do something to piss off his enemy while from the safety of battle (ok, so you can taunt them in VoIP, but it's not the same), or the ability to send HALF an arty strike at any given time. Quite frequently I need just 3-4 shots somewhere NOW, not 10-15 shots in 25 seconds. Or even simply give SLs the ability to spawn on their commander. This would mean the commander himself could become a strategic asset.

If commanders had more to do, they'd spend less time trying to fuck over snipers with cardrops....

Oh.. and an easy trick to avoid that drop... Put your "enter vehicle" key on shift, and then activate capslock. This works on older keyboards (non-USB) where the PC can't tell if you're using shift or caps. Saves you the trouble of taping down your enter vehicle key when sniping.
2006-07-14 07:58:09
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
+2,187|6569|Mountains of NC

I like the carty - taking out enemy snipers and the enemy arty - most servers I play on the rule is NO FIGHTING AS COMMAND so I have to use all my resources including dropping carty on whoever I can since noone on my side is asking for it
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg
2006-07-14 08:04:05
~{TPP}~richoxon
I Want a New Duck
+43|6569|Up a tree
If your a sniper in a good position,when the enemy commander tries to drop a vehicle on you .Hit or miss , you,ve had it!! everyone notices a vodnik sat on a rooftop, next to another vodnik and 3 supply crates!

Its a pain in the arse, EA should make it so you can only drop a vehicle on the road, not in a spawn point, arti, or rooftop

good point TWIST....... arti=smoke      in the old poe mod ,there were the arti guns that fired smoke shells

you could swith between arti + smoke

Caps lock to enter vehicles= good idea!!

Last edited by ~{TPP}~richoxon (2006-07-14 08:20:17)

2006-07-14 08:06:45
nieker
THE FLYING DUTCH PENGUIN, THE NINTENDO PENGUIN
+191|6628|The Netherlands
cartilery= noobshit and fake
2006-07-14 08:07:11
BlaZin'Feenix
I'm just that good
+156|6620|Cork, Ireland
You're lucky because if Chuy hadn't removed the ability to give negative Karma, you'd be getting a serious amount of it
2006-07-14 09:26:21
pete123456
Member
+0|6498
Lol guys don't take this so seriously he's being sarcastic can't you tell??
2006-07-14 10:24:54
Rumfuddle
Member
+14|6719
I particularly enjoyed a round of Ghost Town last night as SAS where the Spetsnaz commander tried to drop a jeep on top of the blackhawk, it somehow slid off still parachuted whereupon the whacked out physics engine (which has no business dealing with parachuted 1/2 ton objects) turned the still parachuted jeep into this whirling dervish of death at eye level that wiped out me and a squadmate. 

Thumbs up for the spinning top parachuted vehicles.  Who can't help but stop and stare when you see that happen.  That's what this game is all about!
2006-07-14 10:27:38
=TFF=Omen_NataS
Member
+60|6541
I call it the silent killer.............! You don't hear or the see the FKN thing you only notice it when your player goes ARGGGGGGGGG!!!! [DEAD] you were killed by n00b vechile [In my opinion it sucks ]
2006-07-14 10:31:08
Rumfuddle
Member
+14|6719

T0xicboy wrote:

As a sniper or whatever you can always jam the E-button down with a chopstick or something else.
No need to worry about them after that.

/Toxic
The fact that somebody is recommending jamming your e key down with a chopstick to avoid sniper death by vehicle drop speaks volumes.
2006-07-14 10:38:32
voltage
Member
+46|6842|Sweden
I've found that players ask for car drop more than any other aid and since I never see any use of it myself (I dont do cartillery, kinda old by now isn't it?) they can always get it immediately. Feels good to be able respond to my teammates needs.
2006-07-14 10:56:14
taxi2you
Member
+22|6645|Missouri
I feel as a commander it is my job to be a pain in the ass to the other team.  Carty is just that, a pain for the snipers that "think" they are hiding.  Most of the guys I play with want the car drops all of the time and I rarely get to squash a guy with one.
2006-07-14 11:34:48
Trel
Member
+70|6678

Orgtheone wrote:

using cartillary as a weapon is lame and unrealistic -1 if i could you suck ass Trel

BlaZin'Feenix wrote:

You're lucky because if Chuy hadn't removed the ability to give negative Karma, you'd be getting a serious amount of it
sar·casm    Pronunciation Key  (särkzm)
n.

   1. A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
   2. A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
   3. The use of sarcasm. See Synonyms at wit1.

+1 for the both of ya, buy some common sense with it.
Good to be back.
2006-07-16 01:30:02
CutK0rners
Member
+0|6633
i wouldn't expect EA to leave these exploits in for long... even though it IS EA..

As far as taking out a sniper, thats purely comical value... very little stratical value at all.   I know that sometimes i'll be a ninja and cap a random flag, and vehicles make this task 150% easier.   Heh.. i know i've started yelling at commanders a couple times for not using vehicles for TRANSPORT.
2006-07-16 01:56:12
[IFF]DemonDave
Member
+20|6567|hampshire england

rh27 wrote:

If you really want to use the cars effectively, drop them on all the spawn points around an enemy flag. Then get your team to sit in them so they don't explode. Now the enemy can't spawn on that flag. Even works on uncaps.
hey we've found those base rapers
2006-07-16 08:13:13
BigRuss1534
Meat Puppet
+1|6637|North Carolina, USA
I just seem to be repeating this old argument, but it is applicable in so many of these types of issues.

Do away with the Commanders' Scan feature!! (or tweak it so it only highlights vehicles, not personnel)

If they can't find the snipers, they can't Cartillarize them.  If and when a Commander does luck across one with Zoom or UAV, have at it.   Just means it was time to move anyway.
Scan is unrealistic, unfair, and takes a lot of fun out of playing Sniper and Spec-Ops.

Last edited by BigRuss1534 (2006-07-16 08:17:48)

2006-07-16 09:38:14
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6698|Germany
Cartillery FTW!!!

The best strategy on Wake(probably any other map too) is cartillery,you can keep the arty down for the whole round.

And if you are a sniper on the south edge of the island you can request the vehicle drop for the commander,it's way more accurate as if the commander would aim on his sat-view and he doesn't need to concentrate on it,he just has to accept the request.
The engineers who spawn at the arty island to repair the arty don't come far when I'm at the south tip of the main island,just ask my favorite victim.

As long as we are punished with this awful 1.3 patch cartillery is totally legitimate,EA made it possible to fire the GL while jumping - everybody did it,now this is the same,except it does not really affect the squad player.
And when you do it it's the enemy commander's fault if he doesn't strike back with cartillery!Fight fire with fire.

Last edited by Mj.Blindfisch (2006-07-16 09:38:48)

2006-07-16 09:40:13
Burks
Member
+2|6644
Vehicle drops are some of the coolest weapons in the game. Nothing like taking out a hovering chopper with a car.

 

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