cyberkiller25
Member
+16|6826|Montreal
This is my first post at this forum and I think it was made with good timing. I have a theory here that seems all but probable : BF 2's 1.3 patch is like Diablo 2's 1.10 patch.

I don't if some of you played this RPG style game but the purpose of 1.10 was to destroy the game. They set the difficulty level extremly high (near impossible), they made a war against hackers and they tried their best to cut the gameplay of the game. Why? 3 words : World of Warcraft.

Now, what does Diablo 2 have anything to do with Battlefield? Does 2142 means something to you? You are a major company and you want to get the more players possible. How do you do that? MAke them stop playing the old games and force them playing the new ones.

What is supporting this theory :

1-They cut a little the gameplay.
2-They lowered most requirements to make sure more people will get all medals and then stop playing.
3-They changed the servers configuration and now its become difficult to find a good server. Oh, what a surprise, they said that they will bring a brand new kind of server search for BF 2142.

Anyway, might be paranoia but you guys have to agree that this just cant be a coincidence...
KillBilly666
Member
+1|6904
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, interesting. I will have to think about that a little more once I get more play time in on the new 1.3 patch.
remo
Member
+20|6855
Why does crafty capitalism surprise anybody these days?

We are all cogs in the machine.
99Ram2500
Member
+6|6893
Who ovulated in your cheerios.

This isnt a PC game conspiracy, lighten up.  They take suggestions from their core players and implement them.

They KNOW people will buy BF 2142. THey dont have to force them.  Im going to buy it. Why? Well why not, its the next one in line! 

Even if BF2 is still fun to play, screw it, theres a new one, move on!
99Ram2500
Member
+6|6893
Side note, im still pissed about D2 coming to and end not seeing a Diablo III yet due to all the queers and WOW.   So im with you on that aspect
uber73
Member
+188|7030|Brisbane
ea are cunts.
joker8baller
Member
+68|6945
Core players? You do mean the noobs who can't kill people and in return we get nerfed guns?
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|6920|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

uber73 wrote:

ea are cunts.
I read you.

Last edited by spawnofthemist (2006-05-24 15:30:05)

Zeon.
l33t sp33k Specialist
+159|6836|Behind j00OMFG HAX, Bristol UK
EA are cunts indeed but you gotta give them some credit for actually bringing this game out in the first place.......................or maybe not
gameaddict
Member
+35|6958|let op drempels

joker8baller wrote:

Core players? You do mean the noobs who can't kill people and in return we get nerfed guns?
AMEN!
Jenkinsbball
Banned
+149|6826|USA bitches!
D2 wasn't fucked up on purpose by Blizzard. They had to make the difficulty higher because of all the synergy spells. When you take a hammerdin that has 20k+ dmg against pre-1.10 monsters, the game isn't fun. Sure, its fun to be a god in D2 sometimes, but repetative.

I stopped playing D2 for the simple fact that only 10 year olds play it now, if you start from scratch its near impossible to build a decent character (unless someone gives you items), the game is based on what items you have, and the entire time you play the game the only real objective is to find better items or runes!!!! D2 is a piece of fucking shit and anyone that plays it still needs to grow up.

But... a D3 would be nice. Not the same style as D2, but maybe a MMO... though, I don't play MMO's.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6994
i was having this theory for a while, but i believe its more believable since EA will make ppl stop playing bf2, then move on to 2142 which is a hell lot less buggier, and has better gameplay.
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rgraze
Member
+6|6950
I totally agree with cyber.  Makes sense to me.  Then they can sell more 2142.  Move the customer base to the new game.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6898|Mhz

cyberkiller25 wrote:

This is my first post at this forum and I think it was made with good timing. I have a theory here that seems all but probable : BF 2's 1.3 patch is like Diablo 2's 1.10 patch.

I don't if some of you played this RPG style game but the purpose of 1.10 was to destroy the game. They set the difficulty level extremly high (near impossible), they made a war against hackers and they tried their best to cut the gameplay of the game. Why? 3 words : World of Warcraft.

Now, what does Diablo 2 have anything to do with Battlefield? Does 2142 means something to you? You are a major company and you want to get the more players possible. How do you do that? MAke them stop playing the old games and force them playing the new ones.

What is supporting this theory :

1-They cut a little the gameplay.
2-They lowered most requirements to make sure more people will get all medals and then stop playing.
3-They changed the servers configuration and now its become difficult to find a good server. Oh, what a surprise, they said that they will bring a brand new kind of server search for BF 2142.

Anyway, might be paranoia but you guys have to agree that this just cant be a coincidence...
One major flaw to this...


What fucktard would buy a game from the people who cant even write a simple patch? All 1.3 has achieved is increasing Quakewars sales.
foxrun612
Member
+27|6821|Atlanta, Georgia
I think what you said might have some meaning to it, but the patch mainly sucks for one reason: they have a bunch of damn chimpanzees coding it.
Snipedya14
Dont tread on me
+77|6973|Mountains of West Virginia

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

What fucktard would buy a game from the people who cant even write a simple patch? All 1.3 has achieved is increasing Quakewars sales.
Roger that.
cyberkiller25
Member
+16|6826|Montreal

foxrun612 wrote:

I think what you said might have some meaning to it, but the patch mainly sucks for one reason: they have a bunch of damn chimpanzees coding it.
lol You got that right.
DerGraueWolf
aka Nekrodamus
+52|7010|Germany, near Koblenz

rdx-fx wrote:

"I need qualified programming support over here, Sir!!"

"Enemy patch spotted"


Suppose you know "A programmer is a device for turning coffee into code."
Perhaps we should some packs of high quality coffee to DICE ...
Herackles
Member
+33|6904

cyberkiller25 wrote:

This is my first post at this forum and I think it was made with good timing. I have a theory here that seems all but probable : BF 2's 1.3 patch is like Diablo 2's 1.10 patch.

I don't if some of you played this RPG style game but the purpose of 1.10 was to destroy the game. They set the difficulty level extremly high (near impossible), they made a war against hackers and they tried their best to cut the gameplay of the game. Why? 3 words : World of Warcraft.

Now, what does Diablo 2 have anything to do with Battlefield? Does 2142 means something to you? You are a major company and you want to get the more players possible. How do you do that? MAke them stop playing the old games and force them playing the new ones.

What is supporting this theory :

1-They cut a little the gameplay.
2-They lowered most requirements to make sure more people will get all medals and then stop playing.
3-They changed the servers configuration and now its become difficult to find a good server. Oh, what a surprise, they said that they will bring a brand new kind of server search for BF 2142.

Anyway, might be paranoia but you guys have to agree that this just cant be a coincidence...
Kafka.
UON
Junglist Massive
+223|6931
Since the persistant stats/rankings issue is massively dividing the quakewars community as far as I can tell, and it looks like it won't make it into the game (because lots of people say it destroys team play, I'm not so sure). 

I challenge everyone who is sick of EA to PM me to help me develop a QuakeWars/BF2 mod which allows people who own both games to drop the entire content for BF2 into the QuakeWars engine and transfer their account to a new community run super fast donation based account server.   I reckon a team of 5-10 good coders could do it, and it wouldn't even require any additional artwork.  It should be legally acceptable provided:

The source to the modified version of QuakeWars is released for free, as the GPL licence requires this.
The mod uses the original BF2 content without modification, and doesn't contain any files from BF2 in the release.
Punkbuster agree to provide anti-cheat support for it (the original Enemy Territory was a community game, so it's not that improbable)...

...even just thought of a name... BF2Wars
Dieselbrad
Member
+3|6825

rgraze wrote:

I totally agree with cyber.  Makes sense to me.  Then they can sell more 2142.  Move the customer base to the new game.
I already bought BF2142.. I think they called it "Tribes Vengeance" at the time tho...
ROFLCOPTER_
Member
+8|6822
1.10 was meant to nerf all the cookie cutter builds like nova sorcs.
it made people who were noobs and fucked up their stats by putting 20 in that level 1 ice spell be able to play somewhat. it made all the people who had 1 skill from each tree + a mastery useless. it made people no longer able to have a versatile character. u had to invest in one skill tree, like cold, to get decent damage. unfort., lots of things in hell are immune to one of the 3 trees.

it also brought all the rich players down to the level of newbs again. 99% of the good items people bought were dupes. it couldnt be helped. but mr. newb with his buriza wasnt exposed to that and kept all his noob items. blizzard didnt like people becoming successful at the game and finding good shit. that would be like ea forcing the top ranked players to use a butter knife as a weapon.

it also wrecked dueling. i dont know about you, but most people loaded with hacked items policed duel games rather than wrecked them. i used to kill those slow gear assholes before they got 2 feet out of town so they didnt wreck legit duels. i also killed other people with hacked items if they were going after legit duelers.

magic find is too sad to talk about. diminishing returns = blizzards favorite term. running the same boss 1000 times with your bot made sure that after the 1000th time, youd be getting crap items. i see another nail in the coffin of keeping good players down. make sure they lose all their items, then make sure its harder to get them back! ignore the fact even in 1.09d, you still had to run pindle a million times to get a good item. also ignore the fact that the act bosses are fucked up and dont drop items from tc90, so you gotta run pindleskin and get 2 items a time rather han 5 or 6 from an act boss.
lets also nerf the cow level! now there are baal runs.
cow levels were a great test of skill. herding cows wasnt something a noob could do unless he liked stunlock and dying. it still took for fucking ever to reach level 99. iirc, the highest I achieve was 97. but that account got banned for using bots. i knew the risks of botting and accepted them, but i didnt think the risk was getting an account I never used a bot on getting banned was one of them. btw, they never did get my botting accounts. dumbasses at blizzard.


1,10 is far worse than 1.2 and 1.3 for bf2.
Point&Shoot
Tank Whore
+52|6825|Canada
I know I can picture the top brass at EA and their marketing department sitting down and talking about how much everyone enjoys BF2 but they only paid once for the game so the players aren't really customers any more.  First they bring out SF to get some more cash of BF2.  Then they come up with EF to bilk $10 out of all the players hoping for some good maps and better weapons.  Now they're gonna want another $10? for AF which has no new weapons at all just vehicles and 3? maps.  But of course with 2142 in production and ready to be released just before Christmas, they are worried that with all the money BF2 players have paid and all the time they have put in for medals and rank that it may be hard to get a few to switch over (personally I wasn't too sure if I'd switch).  But now in the interests of "improving game play" they bring out 1.3.  They add features like vehicle drop, sounds cool but is so obviously flawed that the flaws were intentional or just allowed to create problems.  Then the change in the medals and ranking system has given us three and four star generals overnight and given a few players medals and ribbons that were almost impossible to obtain ie. War college.  All in the interest of curbing some enthusiasm for BF2 and trying to pre-sell 2142 because now players want what they had in BF2 which is slowly being eroded away.

Or EA's maintenance team, which so far has been doing a fairly good job in fixing the game play with past patches, has suddenly dropped the ball.  Maybe they lost all their old programmers and the new ones don't care.  Maybe the maintenance team all got hooked on meth and are having problems focusing on the project.

So I guess it's a matter of which you believe is more plausible - a group of programmers loosing 40IQ points somehow since 1.21 or corporate greed.

Last edited by Point&Shoot (2006-06-02 10:32:25)

Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6931
I'm moving on to the next BS-free DeathMatch FPS. something like Quake III. I'm sick of BF2. sick of armour, sick of artillery, the claymores f*cking everywhere, the way they made dogfighting so much more mundane for the average pilot.. God, just give me a f*cking gun and let me move however the f*ck i want to.
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nelson496
Member
+3|7063
I'm still not going to buy 2142, your theory does not apply to me because I never played RPGs.

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