BF2S Forums Has 1.3 ruined BF2's gameplay?

Just got off the {AWOL} server, 64 player size map. Was very good, some good squad work overall, teh commander working well with me as the s/l

Increases the need for teamwork i found

Action was still nice and fast

Just have to learn to adapt guys

Also, makes finding a good server with teamwork that much more important

-=256=-Evo_Wales wrote:

Increases the need for teamwork i found

I found it seperated the team, but made squadwork more important. I don't play bf2 so I can cater to 1 or 2 people in my squad needs. If I wanted to work in small teams I'd play CS (but I don't as I find it completely 1 dimensional).

-=256=-Evo_Wales wrote:

Just have to learn to adapt guys

I'm quite happy to do that but I feel that the squad changes has negatively effected the game mechanics and it's just not fun anymore. It's more of a test of ones will power rather than fun .

-=256=-Evo_Wales wrote:

Also, makes finding a good server with teamwork that much more important

I was on a good server with very good teamwork. 10 or so of the players on my side where on TS; communication was good but one bomb or 1 tank killing a squad leader and the medic (at one point we had a 4 medic squad, still failed as the squad leader was either killed or was killed in the open infront of the enemy) made the advancement useless.

Last edited by WiBu (2006-05-23 13:04:46)

crownvic96 wrote:

how can you be whining about gameplay. the patch has only been out for a few hours. give the changes some time to sink in and let people get used to them.

I may aswell say the same to you. Do you ever play on open maps or assault maps? (not meant as an insult). If you don't, try them. If you do, haven't you noticed that progress is so slow or that there is no progress at all in some cases?

crownvic96 wrote:

if you can't do that i can give you some lotion to help with all that sand in your vagina. sheesh.

What a mature comment to make.

Last edited by WiBu (2006-05-23 13:07:43)

Has 1.3 ruined BF2's gameplay?

Yes.

ComradeWho wrote:

as much as i am unhappy with this patch i think that the game's pace will increase

Again, I'm not trying to be insulting but how can the games pace increase when the possibility of spawning near the action, behind enemy lines and in to the spots your most needed (saving a flag, assaulting a flag etc) has been greatly decreased?

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

Found myself a new hobby with this patch.....killing snipers with humvee's of the roof

Thanks for the constructive comment O_o

Last edited by WiBu (2006-05-23 13:10:10)

I agree, I played like crap today.

I have seen these kind of posts in just about every game that I have played.  Everyone always comes out and says "ZOMG, patch x.xxx has ruined the game, I quit!" then a day later they are playing the game and living with it until the next patch comes out and they repeat the same thing.  I doubt that the patch has ruined gameplay, just made it different than what you are used to.  I have been on plenty of servers with the same fate that you said but on just about every other patch I have played on (since 1.0 or whatever).  It is completely dependent on the map/server/team.  If you have a team that will work well together then you will win (assuming it works better tahn the other team both teamwork/skill-wise).  But beyond that, don't start saying that a patch ruined the game, it just changed it.  That is unless the patch made the game absolutely unplayable (constant crashes -- not unheard of for any of the patches), although the server-finding bug seems to be a big annoyance.

The way they changed the medal requirements only made sense from a marketing standpoint.  More players get to the higher ranks so that they can be finished with the game before BF2142 comes out and it will all restart over again.

crownvic96 wrote:

how can you be whining about gameplay. the patch has only been out for a few hours. give the changes some time to sink in and let people get used to them.

improvise, adapt and overcome.

if you can't do that i can give you some lotion to help with all that sand in your vagina. sheesh.

Squads really suck now.

Janus67 wrote:

I have seen these kind of posts in just about every game that I have played.  Everyone always comes out and says "ZOMG, patch x.xxx has ruined the game, I quit!" then a day later they are playing the game and living with it until the next patch comes out and they repeat the same thing.

As I've said above, this is the first patch/change that I've complained about. I probably will quit but not immediately; I've put over 300 hours into this game, I guess I'll be playing a few more.

Janus67 wrote:

But beyond that, don't start saying that a patch ruined the game, it just changed it.  That is unless the patch made the game absolutely unplayable (constant crashes -- not unheard of for any of the patches), although the server-finding bug seems to be a big annoyance.

Even a small change to anything can ruin it. A change does not have to be catostrophic to ruin something. Anyway, I did not say it had ruined the game, just the game play. The game itself is an awsome concept and I'll probably still play it.

Last edited by WiBu (2006-05-23 13:55:03)

they ruined the game. dropping jeeps onto roofs, what the hell, this was a kinda pathetic idea. all who said 1.3 will be cool, hf playing public with rooftop jeepcamping noobs. I quit public gaming (which wasnt fun anyways, this game is too noob friendly lately).

most german top clans think about a boycot of the ESL pro series, next days will decide the future of bf2...

they didnt make it more real? jeeps from the sky, loading faster than UAV, yes, this is realism anyway, if I want a reality game, I can play americas army FOR FREE.

Last edited by xaven (2006-05-23 14:01:56)

Colfax wrote:

Maybe the squad leader should stay hidden and wait for it to be safe.  [...] Learn your place in this war.  When i'm squad leader i let my squad go ahead of me and i stay back hidden so they never know i am even there.  Then once they die they spawn on me and continue the attack.  Is this concept hard? NO!  Right not hard?  300 hours of play time and you havent figured out how to even run a squad properly.....

Camper. You have no idea about playing bf2.

WiBu wrote:

ComradeWho wrote:

as much as i am unhappy with this patch i think that the game's pace will increase

Again, I'm not trying to be insulting but how can the games pace increase when the possibility of spawning near the action, behind enemy lines and in to the spots your most needed (saving a flag, assaulting a flag etc) has been greatly decreased?

I have never played a videogame where I have had the chance to SPAWN BEHIND THE ENEMY LINES! I had to work my way there, there was no teleport option in RTCW, Fear, Far Cry, Half Life, HL2, QUAKE 1,2,3, and 4, medal of honor, call of duty, countrstrike condition zero, wing commander games, kings quest 4, etc etc etc. So why should I have to rely on something I NEVER relied on in any other videogame to get me through BF2. Sure the only reason the squad hopping thing benefitted me is I didnt have to work as hard to cap a flag.

This only means the good will get better, the best will have the upper hand, and the noobs who rely on it will fail at this videogame, kick their feet and bitch and moan. And something else will be nerfed in the game thanks to the crying.

They took away the C4 chuck from us spec ops guys, you dont see me crying. I am still blowing up tanks and apc's on foot with plastique, because I am better than the average bf2 player. And the only way I see me being stopped as infantry or in the air, or in armor is for someone to be better than me. As a commander you will have to be smarter than me to cap my flags!

It's as simple as that, you're US on wake or even China get stuck at the south bases, jets are raping north base and beach, no way for you to get back to the airfield, they cap south base.... and start concentrating on beach.

One guy is smart enough to swim across the water to cap south base again, 5 guys join his new squad "IWANNAWIN" suicide spawn on him and viola you capped the flag and make your assault towards north base.

NOT ANYMORE! Now you will have to learn the YANG to offense which is DEFENSE instead of focusing on the YING!

Wake Island is a great example to show how the whole concept was nerfed, but that map is a rape session for whomever caps all of the bases. I dont really enjoy Wake Island and I dont understand how most others do as well.