damn i couldnt have put it better myself!! oh and i do consider myself to be well a moderately right winged guy. I cannot stand talking politics because i always get so pissed off because the stupid fuc**** democracts cant acknowledge a damn thing you say...now i know this wasnt like politically orientated but still come on he's trying to instil words of wisedom into these people and give'em an "at a way, you have a bright future ahead of you". Wtf do they do...show nothing but disrespect. in my opinion this country needs more people like McCain and less people like the students at that college!! just my $.02
Hell yea.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
What irritates me is that older people will look at me (in my mid-twenties) and associate me with the young, rude Americans so favored by our media. Makes life a bit difficult.howler_27 wrote:
Personally, I think that it shows just what is wrong with where this country's standards are heading with it's younger generations.
Try living in East Balitmore with two parents that work there asses off to set a good example and to make sure we can pay the rent. Then try to ask them for money. Hell no. I have been working a job since i was 13, and i will be damned if im grouped with a bunch of kids like that when i go to college (which is going to make my parents and I to get a second job, as well as student loans). Nobody and I mean Nobody has ever handed me something.
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(sigh) you got my number.lowing wrote:
yes like intelligent liberalBubbalo wrote:
Some would consider this an oxymoron.wanderlost wrote:
war hero
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Even when I am talking good about the prime republican candidate for President. Its called a troll.Spearhead wrote:
Nice, Iowing. Resorting to personal attacks as usual.
He was actually booed more when he spoke at my school (Columbia)......
And I agree, it is a problem that some people really have no respect for other people. We had John Ashcroft speak earlier in the semester and it produced pretty much the same reaction (though John was pretty cool about it and put the students heckling him in their place).
And I agree, it is a problem that some people really have no respect for other people. We had John Ashcroft speak earlier in the semester and it produced pretty much the same reaction (though John was pretty cool about it and put the students heckling him in their place).
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Hmmm...pondering this:
I am a liberal so I guess that labels me a democrat here. Since I think highly of McCain, would that make me flip-flopper? Or am I not allowed to do that?
/sarcasm
I am a liberal so I guess that labels me a democrat here. Since I think highly of McCain, would that make me flip-flopper? Or am I not allowed to do that?
/sarcasm
Oh yeah, McCain is not left enough, amnesty enough, socialist enough for our empty headed average voter.wanderlost wrote:
I realize this may be more for the North American readers... But what is this college president thinking? If you were the head of a liberal school - would you schedule Senator McCain to speak at graduation? Don't get me wrong, I am not in favor of liberal politics, but this seems like it was a bad fit from the start.
What's really sad, is that a bunch of spoiled college kids who have accomplished little to nothing in life think it's okay to boo a guy who has done so much for the country. Whether you agree with his politics or not, it's pretty naive to think that you can't listen to him for 20 mins and take at least a few nuggets of wisdom from him... After all, he's a decorated war hero, dedicated his life to public service for 20 years, and may very well be our next President.
To turn your back and boo him is pretty childish - but what do you expect from those types of people?
"Article" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/ … 8188.shtml
I would remeind everyone that he is a Republican and/or democrat, and that makes him a bum!
I've yet to hear any of these socialist exsplain what they REALLY think should become of the U.S.
Im unsure of the "socialist" point of view. I can think of quite a few changes I'd like to see as a taxpaying American voter. One being a multi-party system. Rather than the current two-party. Id like to see a few Presidential Candidates get up there and via for the votes by coming out with thier own origional point of views on topics. Something good. Rather than bashing each other all the way through the election and ultimitely seperating the country to what it is today. Its fucking ridiculous. I'd like to see lobby reform reformed to where there are no lobbyists. YOu act as though the dems/libs all want anarchy and to "bring down the machine" so to speak. The sound of your post makes you sound like the empty headed one bro.yerded wrote:
Oh yeah, McCain is not left enough, amnesty enough, socialist enough for our empty headed average voter.wanderlost wrote:
I realize this may be more for the North American readers... But what is this college president thinking? If you were the head of a liberal school - would you schedule Senator McCain to speak at graduation? Don't get me wrong, I am not in favor of liberal politics, but this seems like it was a bad fit from the start.
What's really sad, is that a bunch of spoiled college kids who have accomplished little to nothing in life think it's okay to boo a guy who has done so much for the country. Whether you agree with his politics or not, it's pretty naive to think that you can't listen to him for 20 mins and take at least a few nuggets of wisdom from him... After all, he's a decorated war hero, dedicated his life to public service for 20 years, and may very well be our next President.
To turn your back and boo him is pretty childish - but what do you expect from those types of people?
"Article" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/ … 8188.shtml
I would remeind everyone that he is a Republican and/or democrat, and that makes him a bum!
I've yet to hear any of these socialist exsplain what they REALLY think should become of the U.S.
Im sorry if you ran across someone with the wrong point of view as you at some point in your life but to label all those people as socialists. Yeah...your the one with the problem.
No offense.
LOL, who in the world did I personally attack!!??Spearhead wrote:
Nice, Iowing. Resorting to personal attacks as usual.
Nope yer not, regardless of your political view point, McCain has earned the respect of every American.Sabertooth71 wrote:
He was actually booed more when he spoke at my school (Columbia)......
And I agree, it is a problem that some people really have no respect for other people. We had John Ashcroft speak earlier in the semester and it produced pretty much the same reaction (though John was pretty cool about it and put the students heckling him in their place).
I new someone would fail to make the connection. Obviously, I did not call our military a bunch of gang bangers. You are putting personal, duty-related performance over what that performance in a whole actually did. I do not agree with the Vietnam War, but I don't have ill will over people who fought in it. Like I said, I am just not gloriying McCain as a hero because he fought. I would consider him a hero if he fought for the RIGHT thing, not just some thing he was "ordered" to do.sgt_mango333 wrote:
I cannot believe you just compared the American military with a gang thug. What is you major mental malfunction.
Going into someone's house starting a bloodbath just because you don't like how they ran it doesnt make you right. They were no threat. Gulf of Tonkin never happened. Even in light of Communism's failure to take the world like a plague you still believe this. But whatever, I'm not going to make comments about you being ignorant or unwilling to listen like those made against me.sgt_mango333 wrote:
And for the record. Viet Nam was not evil, our involvement was not evil, and the troops who did their duty were not evil. Yes they were heroes, fighting and dying in conditions you can't even comprehend. The American political system got in the way of winning that war; a war that attempted to thwart the continuing spread of communism. Communism is evil, deprivation is evil, and siding with the enemy is evil. And I'm going to put this very plainly for you...if you are not for America you are against it. That doesn't mean you have to agree with everything, but learn some damned respect and do a little research.
"if you are not for America you are against it" well not shit. "If I am sleeping that means I am not awake." What does this actually mean anyway? I bet you'd call Stalin a hero for his role in WWII. I wouldn't and that's proof right there how two wrongs can fight and not make a right, something you seem to fail to see whenever America gets in a fight. Somehow we are always right even when we are wrong because Joe Footsoldier from Hometown America got his torso blow apart in some dirt field in some country far away all because it is "honorable" to do what someone asks them to do.
Let it die like My Lai, Tiger Force, and countless 'undocumented others'? Oh, believe me, I do not like bringing that up but it seems I have to so people might think differently about pulling blankets over entire issues. Just like how people either seem to have forgotten or just don't care because "our boys are over there, can't stop now..." the "justification" for going into Iraq.sgt_mango333 wrote:
The troops who went to Viet Nam did not go over and commit attrocities like the Nazi's did. They did not commit, on the whole, human rights violations on the level of Abu Ghraib. They went to stop communism because their president told them to. And if you have a problem with that, you are seriously messed up in the head.
As for Abu Ghraib, let it die. The culprits were caught and punished. It isn't standard military practice and you can't judge the whole for the actions of the few. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here because people would judge everyone on this forum by you insame remarks.
Judging by the whole, that's a slippery slope. I judged McCain as not being a hero because he was involved in the combat aspect of the Vietnem War. You are judging the military as a whole on the positive aspect. Since not every soldier is shoving a flourescent light bulb up a most likely innocent man, you are saying that the ousting of Saddam, his sons, and countless other scum and the daily humanitarian missions are a good thing (which I wholeheartedly agree with). But these good things do not justify our "justifcation" for invading Iraq. If that was the case, we'd actually be making a real effort to stop the insanity in Africa. Most Americans would not have agreed with going into Iraq to do these good things with no other reason. This is proof because we left Saddam in power after we kicked his ass out of Kuwait. Are you denying this? So, obviously, the American people don't really give a shit how someone runs their own house until they become a threat. The Neocons know this, that's why our "justification" was fabricated into something the America people could easily swallow.
1. Iraq was not an "imminent threat"
2. Iraq had nothing to do with the September 11th attacks
3. If Iraq had WMD, they were most likely destroyed during the UN watchover
Now, if I read it right, you're in Iraq and I'm sure you're a good guy. Just doing what you've been told to do and hoping everything goes good. I have no idea what you're going through on a daily basis but that means jack shit in the overall picture. You are not righting any wrong because you are not supposed to be there in the first place. Of course no one wants their son to come home in a body bag, and that's not what I am saying. You get support at home because of this yet the President's approval rating hits 29% and people don't want America in Iraq. In short, you're not supposed to be there. The UN and the America people were duped by outright misrepresentation and lies by our government and shit continually floats to the top because the American people dont want to see their boys washed down the drain.
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I find this discussion amusing. If a holocaust denier had been speaking would you still be upset? To me, the bigger issue is not a lack of respect (which is relative), but rather what appears to be an unwillingness to listen to new ideas (something which several members of this forum appear to know alot about). Everybodies ideas should be listened to, incase they're right.
On a side note, I would not have booed McCain. I would have actually thanked him for not being a Neocon scumbag or one of the countless Republicans without an identity who, in turn, ride their party's coattails not giving two shits in the long run how the failures they inact into law affect America. I hate to see the doucebags on the left hijack something and turn it into pig's feed for the supreme fucks on the right. Bush shoved dirt directly into McCain's face during the 2000 election by sitting back and letting Rove stir up Bush supporters. Rove should have his rat testicles chopped off and shoved down his throat. McCain seems to actually care about this nation's veterans (can't say for sure, never checked his voting record on this issue) and injustices this nation commits (Abu Ghraib. Sorry, had to mention it again because he was the only one I saw stand out on govt. panels). Bush, or the person/persons who control Bush, do not.
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