That pisses me off too. From 1.3 on it will just show that you can get behind some noobs every once in a while which everyone does.
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sounds like EA/Dice wants everyone to have every award before BF:2142 lol
And then they'll need something new yet similar. Now where would they find that?c4_he_was_famous wrote:
This is from EA forums? well i see a big prob.....without time requirements and other requirements that were taken away,it will make the game MUCH easier to achieve the medals and then general ranks! i think that doing this will hurt the BF2 pop. as ppl will finish the game by getting all the unlocks/ribbons/medals and ranks, which I would say are the main attraction to the game! I just dont think it would work!
GL andy
EA money-grubbing rearing its' ugly head maybe?
ok lets see so far the first big patch did me over with the explosives
mainly because 2 days b4 it came outn and changed the reqs i got 37 and 42 in around to get my silver
it came out ... i would have had firkningaaod gold if id waited two days ... - i worked hard in a great sqauad to get that - i wasnt spam throwing them .... and now this patch makes even my 7 year old brother able to get it...
oh well Project reality for me
mainly because 2 days b4 it came outn and changed the reqs i got 37 and 42 in around to get my silver
it came out ... i would have had firkningaaod gold if id waited two days ... - i worked hard in a great sqauad to get that - i wasnt spam throwing them .... and now this patch makes even my 7 year old brother able to get it...
oh well Project reality for me
wow ... 153 replys to my thread Thanks for the +1s if you gave me one
Last edited by Viper38 (2006-05-20 08:34:18)
Not all change is good!
Remember when BF2 first came out, you needed something like 500 hours to be a Sergeant!! (I dont remember exactly) I'm glad they lowered the rank req's down some, but to drop the IAR requirement is stupid!
Changing (lowering) the requirements for req's for vehicles will allow more ppl to use them, seems most ppl use them to get their award, then go back to foot combat. The only reason I jump in an available vehicle is to either get to the fight, or to log some time for the badge.
The ground based weapons time req should be lowered a tad, but should still remain the same IAR req, otherwise, you have ppl spending the entire round in these.
BF2 was supposed to be about "Team Work" and "Squad Work", but many of the requirement make you abandon your team and solo in order to gain awards. Anything that is stationary or air vehicles should have less req's in order to promote the "Team" playing aspect of the game. Just my opinion!
Remember when BF2 first came out, you needed something like 500 hours to be a Sergeant!! (I dont remember exactly) I'm glad they lowered the rank req's down some, but to drop the IAR requirement is stupid!
Changing (lowering) the requirements for req's for vehicles will allow more ppl to use them, seems most ppl use them to get their award, then go back to foot combat. The only reason I jump in an available vehicle is to either get to the fight, or to log some time for the badge.
The ground based weapons time req should be lowered a tad, but should still remain the same IAR req, otherwise, you have ppl spending the entire round in these.
BF2 was supposed to be about "Team Work" and "Squad Work", but many of the requirement make you abandon your team and solo in order to gain awards. Anything that is stationary or air vehicles should have less req's in order to promote the "Team" playing aspect of the game. Just my opinion!
i like it, now i finnally can get those badges and ribbond
I like the requirements for the WCR. The others are a steal....well all are a steal.
Instead of keeping the incentive inplace to encourage players to better themselves, lets just lower the standards.
I was getting so close to geting my Exp. knife, i had the art of it down and everything i knew it was only a matter of time before i made the IAR, but alas, now its just being handed out to me and everyone else.
I was getting so close to geting my Exp. knife, i had the art of it down and everything i knew it was only a matter of time before i made the IAR, but alas, now its just being handed out to me and everyone else.
Last edited by ~WPN~ Magnum_Fire (2006-05-20 15:01:29)
i dont see how this would defeat the purpose of a pistol/knife server. now you can go play a round and get all three badges. at least the kill/IAR requirements slowed this process. yes, ive played in one. i already had my expet knife beforehand. i just like using my knife. i average almost 6 kills an hour with my knife and i have almost 400 hours in. if youve ever played with me youd know that even in a normal round youll see me kill 20 people with it at times. granted my k/d ratio with one isnt as good as it could be playing like this, but i enjoy ditching my gun and trying to knife an entire squad. im good with my knife and im proud of it. now any jackoff can get it.137[CSi] wrote:
Again these are all changes from a beta version of the 1.3 patch, a few revisions to it may have been done. As far as the IAR requirements for some of the badges like the knife badge I can understand why they would get rid of it... to defeat the purpose of a pistol and knife server.
Well read almost all of the thread then I "googled" for the patch to see what (if anything) EA had to say.
Found this:
"Although the 1.3 patch is still being worked on we wanted to provide a peek at what you can expect with the coming release:
NEW FEATURES
Co-op: Co-op Mode allows you to play Single Player levels on the Internet and LAN with both AI controlled bots and human players. Several new options have been created that will allow the server creator to modify how the bots behave in game.
Air dropped vehicles: Squad members can now send a request up the chain of command for a vehicle to be dropped at their location.
BUG FIXES & GAME PLAY TWEAKS
Prevented ban list from being cleared in the event of a server crash.
Fixed issue with players not properly ranking up on servers where they continuously play.
Fixed bug where friendly vehicles show up as valid targets.
Friendly Vehicle lock: Lock-on weapons do not lock on to friendly vehicles. The box with an X through it will still appear, but a lock tone will not sound and then if fired, the missile will not track the friendly target."
NO MENTION OF BADGES OR RIBBON REQUIRMENT CHANGES !!!!!!!!!!
Just wait till it comes out before ya sound of too much about what it may or maynot contain.
Found this:
"Although the 1.3 patch is still being worked on we wanted to provide a peek at what you can expect with the coming release:
NEW FEATURES
Co-op: Co-op Mode allows you to play Single Player levels on the Internet and LAN with both AI controlled bots and human players. Several new options have been created that will allow the server creator to modify how the bots behave in game.
Air dropped vehicles: Squad members can now send a request up the chain of command for a vehicle to be dropped at their location.
BUG FIXES & GAME PLAY TWEAKS
Prevented ban list from being cleared in the event of a server crash.
Fixed issue with players not properly ranking up on servers where they continuously play.
Fixed bug where friendly vehicles show up as valid targets.
Friendly Vehicle lock: Lock-on weapons do not lock on to friendly vehicles. The box with an X through it will still appear, but a lock tone will not sound and then if fired, the missile will not track the friendly target."
NO MENTION OF BADGES OR RIBBON REQUIRMENT CHANGES !!!!!!!!!!
Just wait till it comes out before ya sound of too much about what it may or maynot contain.
I love everything except the increase of expert first aid. I'm on 445 of 750 heals and I have played 15h.
With a total time as medic of 36h it will take a damn long time for me to get it (average playtime per day is 1h)
With a total time as medic of 36h it will take a damn long time for me to get it (average playtime per day is 1h)
i think its good because other wise the medals that have a time requierment are just stupidly big like 500nrs and some people will not play for that amount of time so i think its good
It actually makes some of the badges achievable to people with shitty computers like me that lose knife fights 100% of the time.
If the changes are all true it's probably to sell BF2142. They want everyone to get hurry up and get the awards and get bored so they can sell the next game.
I'm all in favor of reducing time requirements for awards as it's totally rediculous to have to spend approx 2000 hours in order to get all the badges necessary to become a general....absolute minimum is about 1500 but you have to factor all the times you get TKd for your vehicles and not getting one and etc etc etc....NOT TO MENTION that the overwhelming majority of players who play this game have lives OUTSIDE their PC...so it's not fair to only allow those WITHOUT lives and can spend 8-10 hours a day playing the game to have access to the better awards and ranks
but making it so that any noob can get it is bogus....I hope they leave the WCR requirements as they are...I've been busting my ass off trying to get it and I'm ALMOST THERE....just need 400 wins and some commander time and it's mine (WAS at needing 1000 wins and 40 commander hours)
but making it so that any noob can get it is bogus....I hope they leave the WCR requirements as they are...I've been busting my ass off trying to get it and I'm ALMOST THERE....just need 400 wins and some commander time and it's mine (WAS at needing 1000 wins and 40 commander hours)
i dont see how its not fair that if you dont have the time to play you still deserve to get everything. that would be like world of warcraft deciding to give everyone a lvl 60 account because not everyone has time to lvl up their characters. that may be the dumbest thing ive ever heard. if you dont put in the time you dont deserve the awards, simple as that.jjrp02 wrote:
I'm all in favor of reducing time requirements for awards as it's totally rediculous to have to spend approx 2000 hours in order to get all the badges necessary to become a general....absolute minimum is about 1500 but you have to factor all the times you get TKd for your vehicles and not getting one and etc etc etc....NOT TO MENTION that the overwhelming majority of players who play this game have lives OUTSIDE their PC...so it's not fair to only allow those WITHOUT lives and can spend 8-10 hours a day playing the game to have access to the better awards and ranks
but making it so that any noob can get it is bogus....I hope they leave the WCR requirements as they are...I've been busting my ass off trying to get it and I'm ALMOST THERE....just need 400 wins and some commander time and it's mine (WAS at needing 1000 wins and 40 commander hours)
next youll be saying that everyone deserves the sf unlocks because not everyone can afford to buy it.
Last edited by thejigga (2006-05-21 11:08:28)
its not such a bad idea to lower some of the awards, as some are mighty tough to get (in terms of hours required). But most are fine where they are now and really dont need faffing aroung with.
Keep WCR the same as it is...the rest could be adjusted a little.Mainly the globlal time requirments.
lol these "awards" sound so dumb. First they ruin the ranking system, now the awards are near-meaningless. Good job EA on killing your own stat system
Looked at the link to the EA site, found out it was from the TotalBF2 forums, found the article: http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73625VeNg3nCe^ wrote:
lol these "awards" sound so dumb. First they ruin the ranking system, now the awards are near-meaningless. Good job EA on killing your own stat system
Basically the guy who posted the list says he doesn't know if they are true or not and doesn't say where they came from or how he got them.
Did they ever pander to the masses with all these whole sale changes. Especially when it comes to the WCR. I'm glad I got mine earlier today, at least I know it was a challenge getting it. Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of people complaining about planes being too strong, AA tracking to harshly, I can't get this badge/ribbon/medal because of this this and this e.t.c, e.t.c.
I say fix the actual bugs before making ubiquitous changes. Fixing the red name bug, fixing the connection problem bug, fixing the missiles going through other enemy vehicles bug...these are to name just a few. Less nerfing and more fixing is needed. The best example of the nerfing has to be the mini gun on blackhawk. Now I wasn't around in those days, but I assume that it was gun that you could actually kill somebody with, unlike now.
There are many many times I get my ass handed to me while playing, but I don't go around crying about it. Sure you get pissed and you might say something stupid...but that's the fun bit of it. The game would cease to be any fun if all the challenges were removed. Judging from what I've seen so far and from what I've read of the past patches, EA and Dice are removing all the fun and challenge from this game bit by bit.
Just my two cents.
I say fix the actual bugs before making ubiquitous changes. Fixing the red name bug, fixing the connection problem bug, fixing the missiles going through other enemy vehicles bug...these are to name just a few. Less nerfing and more fixing is needed. The best example of the nerfing has to be the mini gun on blackhawk. Now I wasn't around in those days, but I assume that it was gun that you could actually kill somebody with, unlike now.
There are many many times I get my ass handed to me while playing, but I don't go around crying about it. Sure you get pissed and you might say something stupid...but that's the fun bit of it. The game would cease to be any fun if all the challenges were removed. Judging from what I've seen so far and from what I've read of the past patches, EA and Dice are removing all the fun and challenge from this game bit by bit.
Just my two cents.
Last edited by Herackles (2006-05-22 01:01:45)
ohnoes guys we're making the transition from 1.6 to SAUCE
lol
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ohnoes guys we're making the transition from 1.6 to SAUCE
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