Find out the exact motherboard he has and post that for more help._j5689_ wrote:
Just wondering because I want to help my friend play this game but there is no AGP slot on his mobo so I want to see if this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 814129043R can work in one of his PCI slots. DO NOT ANSWER THE MOTHERFUCKING QUESTION IF YOU CAN'T STOP BEING ASSHOLE FOR ONE SECOND!!!!! DO NOT GIVE ME NEGATIVE KARMA FOR ASKING A QUESTION!!!!!!!!
Just to get something straight, I needed to know the name of a good PCI video card that he can use until he's got enough to buy a new rig. He's kinda short on money so he probably won't be buying a new mobo.
Youre initial post linked a $200 graphics card. With this in mind, a $50 motherboard and a $150 PCI-e graphics card would be better than any PCI card. But if $200 is too much, well, in all honesty, you friend will be disappointed with any PCI graphics card (for BF2 that is)._j5689_ wrote:
Just to get something straight, I needed to know the name of a good PCI video card that he can use until he's got enough to buy a new rig. He's kinda short on money so he probably won't be buying a new mobo.
But before going any further, it'd probably be best if we knew the computer manufacturer. Is it a Dell or HP? A model number would be helpful.
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I don't know the model. He plans on playing BF2 and has already been playing WoW so I presume he won't expect anything too special. So far i'm leaning toward this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814103167Ilocano wrote:
Youre initial post linked a $200 graphics card. With this in mind, a $50 motherboard and a $150 PCI-e graphics card would be better than any PCI card. But if $200 is too much, well, in all honesty, you friend will be disappointed with any PCI graphics card (for BF2 that is)._j5689_ wrote:
Just to get something straight, I needed to know the name of a good PCI video card that he can use until he's got enough to buy a new rig. He's kinda short on money so he probably won't be buying a new mobo.
But before going any further, it'd probably be best if we knew the computer manufacturer. Is it a Dell or HP? A model number would be helpful.
There's only three decent PCI video cards and this one looks to be the best so this will probably be the one.
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If he can play WOW reasonably well, BF2 at low settings should be fine. A PCI card really won't improve performance that much, especially if WOW is playable now._j5689_ wrote:
I don't know the model. He plans on playing BF2 and has already been playing WoW so I presume he won't expect anything too special.Ilocano wrote:
Youre initial post linked a $200 graphics card. With this in mind, a $50 motherboard and a $150 PCI-e graphics card would be better than any PCI card. But if $200 is too much, well, in all honesty, you friend will be disappointed with any PCI graphics card (for BF2 that is)._j5689_ wrote:
Just to get something straight, I needed to know the name of a good PCI video card that he can use until he's got enough to buy a new rig. He's kinda short on money so he probably won't be buying a new mobo.
But before going any further, it'd probably be best if we knew the computer manufacturer. Is it a Dell or HP? A model number would be helpful.
Case in point, I had an ancient S3 PCI card. The graphics card itself was fast for it's time, but the PCI bottleneck couldn't keep up with the graphics card. The bottleneck greatly diminished all aspects of the PC, especially the harddrive. The same S3 graphics chip on AGP however, was awesome.
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doesnt S3 makes some good gpus for pcie
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They used to... but the most I know is that they've been reduced to integrated graphics solutions on VIA's EPIA series. I had a S3 video card once... I hated it. Then the Voodoo cards came and pwn3d me left and right.Maj.Do wrote:
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But for that individual who needs a better video card for BF2... take it from someone who don't tolerate low-performance: Save up the money for a bigger upgrade. There's little reason to go for a PCI video card even if for BF2. Will it run? Maybe... will be up to par? Absolutely not.
Save save save. Save the cash now and save it up for a bigger upgrade. I frankly don't even care if he has to rob a bank to get a better system overall. The rig may be able to handle WoW but WoW is an entirely different class and league for 3D engines. Do not let your buddy regret the purchase by getting any PCI card. Force him to save up the cash for a poor-man's overhaul upgrade or get his folks to buy him a Super Rig.
Funny thing is, I plugged my S3 Virge into an old mobo a week ago and, to my suprise, it still worked. Damn thing was sitting in a drawer full of greasy nuts and bolts for years.sixshot wrote:
I had a S3 video card once... I hated it.
He's really better off stowing that $90+ away for a new rig, rather than picking up a GeForce 5500._j5689_ wrote:
Just to get something straight, I needed to know the name of a good PCI video card that he can use until he's got enough to buy a new rig. He's kinda short on money so he probably won't be buying a new mobo.
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The Radeon 9250 looks like a better deal so i'm recommending that to him.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Funny thing is, I plugged my S3 Virge into an old mobo a week ago and, to my suprise, it still worked. Damn thing was sitting in a drawer full of greasy nuts and bolts for years.sixshot wrote:
I had a S3 video card once... I hated it.He's really better off stowing that $90+ away for a new rig, rather than picking up a GeForce 5500._j5689_ wrote:
Just to get something straight, I needed to know the name of a good PCI video card that he can use until he's got enough to buy a new rig. He's kinda short on money so he probably won't be buying a new mobo.
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Can you have two video cards from different bus types in one computer and run one of them, so just in case the better one gets fucked up for some reason, you can switch to the other?
You're better off getting the best card up and running as soon as possible. Don't have both plugged in at once, as there will be driver conflicts._j5689_ wrote:
Can you have two video cards from different bus types in one computer and run one of them, so just in case the better one gets fucked up for some reason, you can switch to the other?
They can't make it so you can just switch between the two? I want to have my Radeon 9600 as my main one, and if it screws up, I can switch to the Radeon 9250. Or do you mean install one first, then the other?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You're better off getting the best card up and running as soon as possible. Don't have both plugged in at once, as there will be driver conflicts._j5689_ wrote:
Can you have two video cards from different bus types in one computer and run one of them, so just in case the better one gets fucked up for some reason, you can switch to the other?
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I mean install one, and only one.
If one card fails to where it won't display, then just pop it out and put a temp in to see if you can work out whatever problem it is, if it's software-side. Then stick the new(er) one back in. But you must have very little faith in ATI to desire this kind of redundancy. This shouldn't really be something you want to anticipate to where you desire two different display cards in one system.
If one card fails to where it won't display, then just pop it out and put a temp in to see if you can work out whatever problem it is, if it's software-side. Then stick the new(er) one back in. But you must have very little faith in ATI to desire this kind of redundancy. This shouldn't really be something you want to anticipate to where you desire two different display cards in one system.
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I was runnning an AGP (FX5700) and a PCI-E (Gforce 6800) in parallel - you can use both at once should you so wish, but they will only drive seperate monitors, or one monitor with multiple inputs. You can't, however, run one as backup, only as a seperate device for using as an extra bit of desktop. It seems a bit pointless running this kind of redundancy - as unnamednewbie13 said, you must have very little faith in the cards!
Or you can use the pair of DVI's on a single card to drive your monitors.AT3am_Murd0ch wrote:
I was runnning an AGP (FX5700) and a PCI-E (Gforce 6800) in parallel - you can use both at once should you so wish, but they will only drive seperate monitors, or one monitor with multiple inputs. You can't, however, run one as backup, only as a seperate device for using as an extra bit of desktop. It seems a bit pointless running this kind of redundancy - as unnamednewbie13 said, you must have very little faith in the cards!
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Well, I wasn't expecting the 9600 to fail. It's been very reliable on this one which is why i'm buying it in the next one. I think it would be cool to have a back-up card in there too, I know this sounds weird but I think it's cool how the Radeon 9250 uses PCI slots and can play BF2 with it, so as long as I can switch between the two, all the better. Plus the computer i'm buying has a window so it looks cool inside and I probably will have a few PCI slots left, lol.
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This is not true. EA states that the PCI 9250 will not work.-=raska=- wrote:
the best pci card is the radeon 9250. You can play bf2 with that but everything on low. but as Chitlin said, if your friend hasn't an agp slot on his mobo, its because his computer is pretty old or cheap and the cpu, ram, etc must suck.
http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/ph … _topview=1
This is probally the best PCI card for BF2. http://www.bfgtech.com/6200_256_pci.html In single player you can play with everything on High. Very little lag with multiplayer if everything is no medium.EA wrote:
Note that if you have a ATI Radeon 9200 PCI card (this does not apply to AGP or PCI Express cards), you may experience this issue even after updating your drivers. Although this card meets the memory requirements for running the game, when tested it was not able to run the game with a stability adequate enough to make the official supported video card list in the Readme for the game. Updating your video card drivers as well as your motherboard firmware may help to resolve this issue. Please refer to your video card manufacturer for further instruction.
PS: A little bird is telling me that it is better to have everything set to low, even if you can run them on High. Those snipers can not hide in the "shadows".
O.K., i'll try it if I ever need to buy a PCI card so long as it's cheap enough.dubbs wrote:
This is not true. EA states that the PCI 9250 will not work.-=raska=- wrote:
the best pci card is the radeon 9250. You can play bf2 with that but everything on low. but as Chitlin said, if your friend hasn't an agp slot on his mobo, its because his computer is pretty old or cheap and the cpu, ram, etc must suck.
http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/ph … _topview=1This is probally the best PCI card for BF2. http://www.bfgtech.com/6200_256_pci.html In single player you can play with everything on High. Very little lag with multiplayer if everything is no medium.EA wrote:
Note that if you have a ATI Radeon 9200 PCI card (this does not apply to AGP or PCI Express cards), you may experience this issue even after updating your drivers. Although this card meets the memory requirements for running the game, when tested it was not able to run the game with a stability adequate enough to make the official supported video card list in the Readme for the game. Updating your video card drivers as well as your motherboard firmware may help to resolve this issue. Please refer to your video card manufacturer for further instruction.
PS: A little bird is telling me that it is better to have everything set to low, even if you can run them on High. Those snipers can not hide in the "shadows".
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Two video cards is possible, but depends on bios which one works on boot._j5689_ wrote:
Can you have two video cards from different bus types in one computer and run one of them, so just in case the better one gets fucked up for some reason, you can switch to the other?
Secondly, I'm guessing yer buddy must be playing on a machine that had on board graphics. And that will shut itself off once a PCI card is installed. (99.9% of the time).
Speaking of OLD Video Cards. I have an OLD OLD ISA Video Board. I also have an S3 1MB PCI Card and a Diamond 2MB PCI Card, and I think a 4MB Cirrus Logic Video Card, also PCI.
They do work for when you have to do a bios fix and it knocks out AGP function.
Also after getting to one of the lasts posts, yeah that BFG 6200 PCI Card would just about get the job done for ya. I wonder how cheap you could get them on e-bay and stuff? Probably at a STEEP discount.
Good Luck.
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