BF2S Forums How Unlocks Should've been done

the Euro Forces guns should have been unlocks. interesting idea  though

Expert badges are based on a players skill for the given class. But most people earn their expert combat badges while their in a vehicle, such as Tank, APC, chopper.

So by earning the gun unlocks when you get a Expert combat badge would prove nothing about the individual players skill while they are the class, it would just show that the person can get 40 kills in a round in a tank on Karkand.

Plus the weekend warriors that play BF2 would complain that they dont want to wait a year to get the 100hrs for their favorite class to get its unlock.

*shrug* unlocks suck anyways, only good one is the L9

why bigger maps lol, there pretty good enough  at what they are rightnow

.X. DarkHead wrote:

they would have more vehicles, wide scale vehicle assaults.  like how the army uses tank battles, they should have tank battalions and overwhelm the enemy, or bomber squadrons.  the bigger maps would keep people from going and trying to go rambo and fighting alone.

and there would need to be some AI to backup, reinforce and defend

I disagree with the AI but large-scale tank battles would be cool. They would also run considerably slower than the maps we have now.

Last edited by xintegrityx (2006-04-12 18:45:08)

There's plenty of good ideas here...but there's more badges than unlocks. And EA wants you to pay for the privilege of being able to earn 8 of them. So that's 15 unlocks. Does that sound right?

VidSicious wrote:

Actually a good idea, and as such it was destined never to see the light of day at EA Lames.

I would also add that using a vehicle to get weapon badges should not count towards that kit.  You shouldn't be able to sit in an APC or tank and get your medic or eng. combat badge.  Those should only be vehicle kills.  Really, a 3 yr old can hide inside 10 tons of armor and kill guys.  Be a man and use the actual weapon.

I agree. I have not gotten a single armor kill when going for combat badges. For engineer, *selects MK3A1 Jackhammer*, RAMBO TIME BITCHES!

Username II wrote:

There's plenty of good ideas here...but there's more badges than unlocks. And EA wants you to pay for the privilege of being able to earn 8 of them. So that's 15 unlocks. Does that sound right?

More badges then unlocks? No...there's a combat badge for each kit. That level (basic, vet, expert) determines your level of unlock.

Last edited by Defiance (2006-04-12 20:45:41)

Ogopogo15 wrote:

I say they should have done Vehicle unlocks.  Like at ranking up time,  you get a choice,  what kind of stuff you want on your vehicle, to sort of customize it.  For exampe,  when you rank up,  you could choose,  to add pre 1.2 minigun to your Apache,  or stuff like reactive armor?


I still think its BS how like a sniper MEC soldier can steal an M1 Tank.  That to me is like my biggest gripe about Battlefield 2.

yeah i see how you feal, im pretty sure a raghead cant walk up to a tank in a US base in iraq and jack it, he has no idea how to use it, and he probably cannot read american words neways

-=256=-Evo_Wales wrote:

Had this thought about 10 mins ago in my APC on FuShe pass going for my Vet. Engi badge (and missing by one measly kill!)

Unlocks should be based (in future) on the badges. By this i mean, three levels of unlocks.

Basic xxx Combat - Standard BF2 unlock
Vet. xxx Combat - SF Unlock
Expert. xxx Combat - EF/AF Weapons available

As such, the player would have had to prove proficiency with the class to be worthy of the unlocks. As such, requirements for the badges would need to be changed as well to create an atmosphere of less 'whorage'

My 2 pennies, thoughts?

idk about this. usually the unlocks have distinct strengths that enhance a players preferred method of 'fighting'. Take for example the Enginner unlocks - the Pancor Jackhammer and the Mp-7. While the Pancor is dominant in CQC, it is useless of maps such as Dragon Valley, where accuracy and distance are key. If you are a close-up player, then YES, you would benefit by this as you would first get the Jackhammer. But if you are the sniper type, you have to work through a usseless unlock to get to a weapon you can use...My vote on this is no.

iceman785 wrote:

Ogopogo15 wrote:

I say they should have done Vehicle unlocks.  Like at ranking up time,  you get a choice,  what kind of stuff you want on your vehicle, to sort of customize it.  For exampe,  when you rank up,  you could choose,  to add pre 1.2 minigun to your Apache,  or stuff like reactive armor?


I still think its BS how like a sniper MEC soldier can steal an M1 Tank.  That to me is like my biggest gripe about Battlefield 2.

yeah i see how you feal, im pretty sure a raghead cant walk up to a tank in a US base in iraq and jack it, he has no idea how to use it, and he probably cannot read american words neways

i think you, iceman, are taking this to be what it's not - a real life situation. Although I am a fan of realism, not being able to take a tank because you aren't "trained" is a bit too real. Take other things, like somebody blown up with a tank shell can be zapped with a defib?? Or somebody can take more than one pistol shot to the face before death?? There are way too many aspects left out so this can be what it is mean to be - a game.


PS- the whole training to get a vehicle thing sounds kickass 5 stars. noobs that steal jets just so they reach a point faster piss me off.

I've been thinking along the same lines, but that an unlock should require time and/or kills with the kit. I think a badge is a bit too hard though, it will take too long for some to get their first unlock.

I think one of the goals with the rank/award/unlock system should be to encourage ppl to try different kits/vehicles/maps.

VidSicious wrote:

I would also add that using a vehicle to get weapon badges should not count towards that kit.  You shouldn't be able to sit in an APC or tank and get your medic or eng. combat badge.  Those should only be vehicle kills.

How I wish this was true. How fun is it to get the veteran specops when dropping the artillery as commander?

I see some logic behind the idea of the author of the thread, but I don't agree with the idea of having to spend an incredible time (in case your idea becomes true) to get the same unlocks I currently have with the current ranking system.
For me (and the time I can afford to play), the current system offers a good balance.

But I understand that hardcore players always want more challenge. They just happen to forget that many players are simply spending much less time on the game, and yet they hope to enjoy the game content (like unlocked weapons) too.

I already have a real life work which takes a lot of time. I don't want to have more work in the games I play for fun with constratins on time spent playing, or other related stats.
I don't care aboud badges, and ribbons or medals since it doesn't impact on gamepaly. I'm OK with the conditions to obtain them. There is a small exception with application for commander role, but I can live with that exception because I still have opportunities to be commander anyway.