BF2S Forums Can BF help improve your leadership skills in real life too ?

i say hell yeah

no cuz them drunk guys wont listen to u only play fer points

usmarine2005 wrote:

sparklet wrote:

no cuz them drunk guys wont listen to u only play fer points

And, there is zero consequence if you don't listen and do what you want.

There are no direct negative concequences, like an Art. 15, no, but there is the reward that playing as a cooperative team with rank and structure has a definite advantage, with longer life, more kills, and a higher effectiveness towards winning.

*Absolute* best squad I was in, was (im pretty sure at least) 5 other actual US Marines. The squad leader they continuously called "Corporal" (was indeed a Corp.) and they followed his orders to a T. If he said jump, they said how high. They also called Medics Corpsman, which I found amusing. Hands down the best squad I have been on, and I have been playing since last June. Oddly enough they alsos staggered their movement, advancing one at a time with the rest of them covering.

So leadership wise, if your squad is following you, I can really see how it could help you. BF2 in general does require more thought than it initially seems; you have to continually track threats, allocate your resources, strategize to both survive, and to inflict damage on the enemy, *and* do all this quickly, while maintaining your mobility. Throw in the added curve of keeping track of your squads strengths, weaknesses, location, group strategy, and the overall view of the battlefield, and you have alot to think about, although you dont really *think* about it.

usmarine2005 wrote:

I would say it helps people use teamwork more than anything else.

I Second that

Psycho~*DS*~ wrote:

It's a game morons. There is no correlation between this and real life. That's like saying you all can go to war now because you know how to shoot a gun in a video game.

Have you ever used teamwork while playing the game?

I'd have to agree that it is "somewhat" transferable if you choose, between concentrating on a plethora of variables as stated by Blacksheep, as well as the leadership that is required to "MAKE" an effective squad/command and have your orders followed does require tricks of the trade that can be incorporated into the business world.  Mind you, I only respect non-profit business even if there is a level of necessity for self/group gain.  That said, how do you suppose you get players to join a squad, how do you advertise to them to get them to join your squad, how do you make them feel valued and effective regardless of skill?  And mind you, how can you build rapport and trust in your "orders/requests"?  It is the same regardless, any child can make a squad and will occassionally get lucky to have a few "followers" join in and do some effective damage.  But how does one do that consistently with/without a clan...?

Ontopic:  No,  but having leadership skills in real life can help you in bf2

DebonairXcel wrote:

1. how do you suppose you get players to join a squad
2. how do you advertise to them to get them to join your squad.
3. how do you make them feel valued and effective regardless of skill?
4. how can you build rapport and trust in your "orders/requests"?
5. how does one do that consistently with/without a clan...?

1. Make a squad and talk on VOIP to everyone who joins and show real teamwork.
2. Make a squad with a custom name...
3. Respect everyone. Praise them for something good, give advise if they do something wrong
4. Lead by example... you can't force anyone.  you have to earn respect !
5. Play on the same server a lot with the same people

I'm a Squadleader on The official Ranked BF2s.com European server for a few weeks now
My squad TEAMWORK or BF2s is full everytime I play, and most of the time we are the best squad at the end of the round

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EDIT: based on DebonairXcel comment below, I removed the comments (no ego boosting was intended)

Last edited by Lt.Goldman (2006-04-09 15:15:13)

I reckon it can, but not much. It's kind of like those teambuilding exercises that those balding corporates do every now and then.

Still, don't try and put anything BF2 related on your CV.

-offtopic-

dubbs wrote:

That is like saying that because you drive well in a racing game, you will be good at it in real life.

Ask Jeremy Clarkson, he did a Top Gear ep where he played Gran Turismo on PS2 then went to the real world track and tried to beat his PS2 score. Also, I'm sure Formula 1 drivers and drivers from many other disciplines practice on consoles before going out on the real world track. Plus there's pilots and ms flight simulator too.

I've also heard real soldiers on the news comment on how playing some FPS (the REAL ones like CSS) is training for real life, and that once you get hold of a real gun you are way ahead of someone who has never played an FPS.

the best game that i played w/ best teamwork - AMERICAS ARMY

how often do you talk to peeps in person in real life though? for a lot of jobs it is hardly ever.