joker8baller
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So recently I just uploaded 2gb ram to my computer... but noticed very little change from 1 gb ram... ANy suggestions on how to make it run faster? I tried creating a new user account, but it won't load anything up. No explorer/start menu, just a blank screen w/ blackground... Suggestions?
eusgen
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How do you upload 2gb of ram?
Skruples
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Moved to the Tech section.
Cybargs
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(EUS)Gen.BadSnipaDay wrote:

How do you upload 2gb of ram?
i have no clue...

explain more?

so u added 2 gb of ram and didnt notice any difference? did the ram die?
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-_{MoW}_-Assasin
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diju buy cheap ram?
unnamednewbie13
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Occasionaly, really cheap 2x1GB modules that are around $130-$150 have high DOA and failure rates.
Poncho
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Maybe you should change your bios settings.

Or this/that only for videocard memory?
bigelectricat
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if you know how to get into your computer's bios look for the settings for memory. pick 200mhz, CAS 3 and 2T. the more ram you got the higher latency you get but it is still faster than using virtual memory on hard disk.
unnamednewbie13
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bigelectricat wrote:

if you know how to get into your computer's bios look for the settings for memory. pick 200mhz, CAS 3 and 2T. the more ram you got the higher latency you get but it is still faster than using virtual memory on hard disk.
You should know what kind of memory you have, and check the mfg's default timing settings before resorting to a numerical guessing game.
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
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yea, cheap ram = high latencies, which in term, could equal slower performance
King_County_Downy
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1 Gig RAM = 1,500MB paging file size
If you want to go faster decrease your paging file size.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
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not really, the size of the page file could increase or decrease performance depending on program
and it could slow down if you have a slow HDD as well
slo5oh
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-_{MoW}_-Assasin wrote:

yea, cheap ram = high latencies, which in term, could equal slower performance
Bull!
BF2 with 2 gigs = fast
BF2 with 1 gig = slow

Joker if you really want help LIST YOUR COMPUTERS PARTS!
From what you're saying I'd guess you're riddled with spyware.  2 words for you: spybot, adaware.
unnamednewbie13
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BF2 with 1GB of 2-2-2-5 = just fine (for now). I'm going to grind BF2 into the ground, and then cram 2GB 2-3-2-5 into it before availability prices go up for a personal gameplay renaissance.
slo5oh
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

BF2 with 1GB of 2-2-2-5 = just fine (for now). I'm going to grind BF2 into the ground, and then cram 2GB 2-3-2-5 into it before availability prices go up for a personal gameplay renaissance.
That's what a few people say... but I don't think the speed of your ram will change how the game caches WAY too much to the hard drive unless you have 2 gigs.  I know the game is only using around 500mb (or it was the few times I alt-tabbed out and looked), but it just wants more than 1 gig.
unnamednewbie13
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It does want 2GB, but doesn't NEED it to perform satisfactorily. I have a rough ride for the first minute of any match, but once the cache wrinkles are ironed out, everything's back to being smooth as butter. But if I had 1GB of Valuram or some other high-latency crackerjack sticks, I'd swap out right away.
bigelectricat
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

bigelectricat wrote:

if you know how to get into your computer's bios look for the settings for memory. pick 200mhz, CAS 3 and 2T. the more ram you got the higher latency you get but it is still faster than using virtual memory on hard disk.
You should know what kind of memory you have, and check the mfg's default timing settings before resorting to a numerical guessing game.
i think it is already established that he doesnt know the type of ram he got or its default timings. most value rams dont have it well documented.
bigelectricat
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It does want 2GB, but doesn't NEED it to perform satisfactorily. I have a rough ride for the first minute of any match, but once the cache wrinkles are ironed out, everything's back to being smooth as butter. But if I had 1GB of Valuram or some other high-latency crackerjack sticks, I'd swap out right away.
i can almost guarantee that you wont be able to run 2gb at 1t timing. no matter how expensive your ram. try running memtest for at least 3 pass then come back here and complain that you keep getting errors.
-_{MoW}_-Assasin
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its very achieveable
unnamednewbie13
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bigelectricat wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It does want 2GB, but doesn't NEED it to perform satisfactorily. I have a rough ride for the first minute of any match, but once the cache wrinkles are ironed out, everything's back to being smooth as butter. But if I had 1GB of Valuram or some other high-latency crackerjack sticks, I'd swap out right away.
i can almost guarantee that you wont be able to run 2gb at 1t timing. no matter how expensive your ram. try running memtest for at least 3 pass then come back here and complain that you keep getting errors.
As Assasin said, it is possible to run 2GB at 1T timing...you just need 2x1GB, not 4x512MB. Might have misread my post. My current memory consists of two 512MB 2-2-2-5 modules. I stated that if I had (instead) 2x512MB of cheap Valuram, that I would swap them out for 2x1GB. Hope that clears things up.

This article should give some indication as to performance, and that relaxed timings for higher latencies are definately not a step down for AMD fans (when the AM2 establishes itself). The 2T from 4x512MB doesn't seem to hurt Battlefield 2 all that much, but I'll be damned if I'm going to buy yet another pair of 512MB DIMMS just to notch up my detail here and there. Ultrafast low-lat memory just gets too hot for four to be stuffed in such close proximity without a fan pointed at them.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-04-11 18:53:02)

-_{MoW}_-Assasin
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

bigelectricat wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It does want 2GB, but doesn't NEED it to perform satisfactorily. I have a rough ride for the first minute of any match, but once the cache wrinkles are ironed out, everything's back to being smooth as butter. But if I had 1GB of Valuram or some other high-latency crackerjack sticks, I'd swap out right away.
i can almost guarantee that you wont be able to run 2gb at 1t timing. no matter how expensive your ram. try running memtest for at least 3 pass then come back here and complain that you keep getting errors.
As Assasin said, it is possible to run 2GB at 1T timing...you just need 2x1GB, not 4x512MB. Might have misread my post. My current memory consists of two 512MB 2-2-2-5 modules. I stated that if I had (instead) 2x512MB of cheap Valuram, that I would swap them out for 2x1GB. Hope that clears things up.

This article should give some indication as to performance, and that relaxed timings for higher latencies are definately not a step down for AMD fans (when the AM2 establishes itself).
yup, and, unless u hav RX200 chipset, then you maybe able to run 4 rams with 1T
bigelectricat
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

bigelectricat wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

It does want 2GB, but doesn't NEED it to perform satisfactorily. I have a rough ride for the first minute of any match, but once the cache wrinkles are ironed out, everything's back to being smooth as butter. But if I had 1GB of Valuram or some other high-latency crackerjack sticks, I'd swap out right away.
i can almost guarantee that you wont be able to run 2gb at 1t timing. no matter how expensive your ram. try running memtest for at least 3 pass then come back here and complain that you keep getting errors.
As Assasin said, it is possible to run 2GB at 1T timing...you just need 2x1GB, not 4x512MB. Might have misread my post. My current memory consists of two 512MB 2-2-2-5 modules. I stated that if I had (instead) 2x512MB of cheap Valuram, that I would swap them out for 2x1GB. Hope that clears things up.

This article should give some indication as to performance.
i guess if you were using two sticks instead of 4 like the guy who started this topic... you can get 1t timing.
bigelectricat
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-_{MoW}_-Assasin wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

bigelectricat wrote:


i can almost guarantee that you wont be able to run 2gb at 1t timing. no matter how expensive your ram. try running memtest for at least 3 pass then come back here and complain that you keep getting errors.
As Assasin said, it is possible to run 2GB at 1T timing...you just need 2x1GB, not 4x512MB. Might have misread my post. My current memory consists of two 512MB 2-2-2-5 modules. I stated that if I had (instead) 2x512MB of cheap Valuram, that I would swap them out for 2x1GB. Hope that clears things up.

This article should give some indication as to performance, and that relaxed timings for higher latencies are definately not a step down for AMD fans (when the AM2 establishes itself).
yup, and, unless u hav RX200 chipset, then you maybe able to run 4 rams with 1T
it seems we are all assuming things here. the guy looking for help doesnt even know what type of ram he has. could be a lot of reason his 2gb setup is slow. why dont we ask if he is using an AMD or intel processor and what chipset he has.
bigelectricat
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hmm... i think we lost joker8baller. he stopped replying to his thread.
unnamednewbie13
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bigelectricat wrote:

i guess if you were using two sticks instead of 4 like the guy who started this topic... you can get 1t timing.
He never said how many sticks he had. He just said that he now has 2GB's instead of 1.

Well, hopefully the AM2 boards will allow us greater leniency in multiple DDR2 dimms due to their relaxed latencies.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-04-11 18:56:25)

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