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hotel is indeed not evrything, a few should defend the back (destroy the bridge, mine evry other way to get on, put claymores at stairs from the water)

then apc's and tank defend hotel by raping anything they see. infantry attack and deffend all other flags

BUDFORCE wrote:

Im sorry for those guys that are not totally stupid and actually have some grey matter between their heads, but Ive seen it time and time again, so I just have to post this.

i think you mean grey matter between thier EARS. last time l looked i only had one head ^^

SysTray wrote:

The Hotel is a key flag. If the US gains it not only do they stop bleeding ticket-wise, but they always have a base closer to the front and can continue to press on with further infantry support. For shame...telling people to abandon the hotel.

I agree.  As long as the US doesn't send mass amount of people thru the first fence.

I gotta tell you I agree with you 100%.  I registered for the forums just to reply to this because the same thing has been pissing me off so much lately on Karkand. 

All of the points matter at least a little, but hotel is easily the least important.  No point even comes close to as important as the Gatehouse.  Not only does it have all of the commander's assets, but it also has the only MEC tank, and is the most easily defended base on the map.  I can't tell you how many games I've won as USMC by getting a hummer or an APC and just driving right by the Hotel to take the Gatehouse, or how many games I've lost as MEC because an APC or tank goes there first and kills me (the only defender of course) and I sit there and shout "DEFEND THE GATEHOUSE" or "SPAWN AT THE GATEHOUSE" and NO ONE does because they are fighting over the hotel, and we end up losing.  I've played too many games in which the USMC does take the Gatehouse and no one except myself is even trying to take it back.

All you really need is the Gatehouse anyway.  If MEC abandons all other points, destroys the bridges, and waits it out with snipers, anti-tanks,  and engineers ( for AT mines and repair) they will still win most of the time because the base is so difficult to assualt when all opposing team members spawn there.

(This is of course for a 32 player map, which is probably the most popular.)

SysTray wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

SysTray wrote:

The Hotel is a key flag. If the US gains it not only do they stop bleeding ticket-wise, but they always have a base closer to the front and can continue to press on with further infantry support. For shame...telling people to abandon the hotel.

I agree.  As long as the US doesn't send mass amount of people thru the first fence.

I think I might die. You just agreed with me. Those deleted posts must be going to your head

Not exactly, but I just think people are wrong when they say the MEC should forget to Hotel.  I beleive if the US gets the hotel, the armor can move too easy to the rest of the flags.

The hotel has the hookers in it dude. They are worth protecting...

I just want to say the topic poster should play a game with me at MEC. Finally someone who understands the actual meaning of the game. To win as a TEAM, not to play for yourself.

LAV25 up the left ftw _b  Or down the right out-of-bounds for a while, it doesn't really matter as all the MEC troops will be at the hotel

When I used to play this laggy ass POS game I would become a one man defense team . Since most idiots need to defend the Hotel as if it's the last flag on earth completely ignoring the suburbs or any other flag I got into the habit of doing this :

A) Spawn at the train accident as  Special forces  and blow the bridge up - the clostest side to the Train accident mind you . Also blowing myself up in the proccess . Now there is only one way into the main base - the water rout .

B) Spawn as an Engineer and mine the water rout . Slap three mines on top of the road leading to the water rout . Run back to the flag and place a few mines at the top edges of the hills one on each side of the roads .

Basically from here there is not much left to do other then camp and wait for base rapers . I usually jump into a vodnik and hang out by the flag and cover the stairs and make sure no one gets into the building by the flag to cap it from inside . Toss a grenade through the window to kill him .

IMHO when I play USMC there is no other flag more important then the suburbs . It is high ground and high ground is seaier to defend then lower ground . Also you have a downward slope to your adavangtage . After capping the Suburbs you can simply jump into a vodnik and haul some serious ass down hill  to the main MEC base and cap it . It takes 12 seconds to get to the main flag if you don't bump into any objects . And this is why destroying the bridge is critical for the MEC team . Now you force the USMC to take the water rout . The car is slowed down in the water and even slowed down more by having to drive uphill over the top and onto the street . Easy pickings for anti tank guys or Special forces C4 trap .

If you find yourself frustrated by loosing round after round make your own squad and call it "defense" or something . People who are sick of loosing round after round will help out . Try asking for help and you just might get some . Sometimes I just wait for people who join my saqud . People who join my squad voluntarily are smart enough to see the situation of lossing round after round and will help out .

But all of this is in vain . Why ? ................ connection loss OMFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by jonnykill (2006-02-26 13:57:50)

Hotel and Square are worthless. Whoever said Hotel is a key flag is an idiot.

Last edited by JimKong (2006-02-26 14:11:35)

This isn't just a Karkand problem, it's on every map.  If you are getting slaughtered trying to take one specific flag, fucking let them have it.  Nothing frustrates me more, than watching my teams tickets get shredded over one flag that everyone seems to think is the key to life itself.

Talon wrote:

To win as a TEAM, not to play for yourself.

Karkand is nothing but a point getting map. if you want to play as a team, play any other map (except Sharqi).

Karkand is a great map, except there truly are too much people around only playing for the points. It sickens me to see the USMC tank just standing behind an alley spawn, to watch the medics go Blazin.Uk style, and to see all the people crawl around the hotel as little insects. This map is way more than that, and I'm still playing on it to meet a few stratigically minded people.