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2006-02-26 20:50:19
ComradeWho
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+50|7288|Southern California
the most important thing about being a chopper gunner is pressing f9 after you get in to make the graphic of the control console go away so the visible ground area increases

never see that mentioned in these posts, but removing that big blind spot that obscured by the graphics of the nose make a huge difference.
2006-02-26 20:55:39
BigDaddy83
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+1|7307

DSRTurtle wrote:

Just remember you should spend 99% of your time on the TV screen for those missles.

If any of you experienced flyers and chopper gurus know if that works.  Tell me so I can practice it to get better.
Just the opposite.  If you're able to talk to your pilot, you should be spending 99% of your time off the TV screen, scanning for fighters, or AA, or whatever.  The difference between watching the TV screen and scanning for incoming can be life or death.  The pilot may not know if the lock he's hearing is AA or someone on your tail. 

From experience in the F-15 and SU-34, I think they missles degrade with time/number fired/something.  The first cache of missles usually lock on fine, and hit the targets.  But afterwards, they seem to loose their accuracy.  I can hit quite a few things without a lock with the initial load or two, but afterwards, the missles don't seem to want to hit the crosshair. 

Not to mention when I get "bugged" in the jets.  Can't shoot a missle, can't switch to F10 or F11 views, or anything.  Those are entertaining times, that's when I bail out over an open stretch of land, usually a runway and have the pilot fly low and level to pick me back up.  If he's in a good mood, he keeps afterburners off.
2006-02-27 04:58:45
DSRTurtle
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+56|7279
BigDaddy, there probably is a balance in there somewhere.  My suggestion was for the gunner to occassionally look out for the pilot's 6 while he concentrates on flying.  You make a valid point about the missle lock from AA vs Fighter on your butt.

being a chopper gunner has a different set of rules vs being a bomber gunner.  The chopper's gun is great againt infantry and jeeps and such and should be used when they are around and there is no armor or AA around to interfer. 

1st Take out AA guns.
2nd Take out Armor
3rd Take out non Armor vehicles
4th Take out Infrantry as fast as you can.

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2006-02-27 05:51:47
hutchy52
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+12|7347

ComradeWho wrote:

the most important thing about being a chopper gunner is pressing f9 after you get in to make the graphic of the control console go away so the visible ground area increases

never see that mentioned in these posts, but removing that big blind spot that obscured by the graphics of the nose make a huge difference.
If they arent doing this then why the fuck are they in my chopper? 
2006-02-27 06:08:08
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7287|Howell, Mi USA
I don't consider myself the best gunner in the world but im not the worst either. sometimes i get noob fuckin pilots too, it's not just gunners. i know how to use TV missles and mini gun but god dam do u think i can get a pilot to line up a tv shot for me half the time. i agree socom, don't learn to fly/gun on ranked servers. im not the greatest helo pilot, thats y i don't fly.

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2006-02-27 10:25:31
DSRTurtle
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hutchy52 wrote:

ComradeWho wrote:

the most important thing about being a chopper gunner is pressing f9 after you get in to make the graphic of the control console go away so the visible ground area increases

never see that mentioned in these posts, but removing that big blind spot that obscured by the graphics of the nose make a huge difference.
If they arent doing this then why the fuck are they in my chopper? 
I have gotten to point of removing that thing weather I fly or am the gunner.  It makes a huge difference in spotting and shooting targets.
2006-02-27 10:40:21
BigDaddy83
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DSRTurtle wrote:

BigDaddy, there probably is a balance in there somewhere.  My suggestion was for the gunner to occassionally look out for the pilot's 6 while he concentrates on flying.  You make a valid point about the missle lock from AA vs Fighter on your butt.
I can agree with you in the helo, but for the Jet, I don't think there's any reason to be glued to the TV.  The pilot can see the difference between friendly's and enemies, but you can't looking at the TV screen.  Scanning the horizon for helo's and fighters is the best way to help your pilot out, until he lines you up for a bombing run. 

But it goes both ways, the pilot should be willing to tell you that you're lined up if you're gonna spend the time making sure you stay alive.
2006-02-27 11:10:19
DSRTurtle
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+56|7279
And that's the best arguement for teamspeak vs VOIP.  Teamspeak allows for better communication for the entire team.  Not just pilot and "gunner."  That's one of the reasons I wish there was airstrike option on the commander choices of orders to issue to a squad.  I got some quality time in the chopper and the F-15 today, trying to practice what we have been discussing.  Yes, it does work.  However, you have to be quick to change and can't spend all your time on one task.  look 90 degrees one way, switch back to tv or gun look and shoot.  then another 90 degrees. 

You will have to work out what is best for you and your pilot/gunner.  It will vary by person and group.
2006-02-27 16:16:54
mhawk
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+0|7231
Co pilots are awesome... if you are trying to ram a friendly and eject, but don't tell your backseater, they get the tk.
2006-02-27 16:38:11
zmatt
Member
+0|7228
Anyone want to go in a server with me that has vent

63.209.18.155:3801

Come in now i want to play with some real players.
2006-02-28 14:04:20
[zulu]steviep831
Member
+6|7226|Florida
I'd like to add some personal experience if I may. When I was a newb, I really didn't have much time in a helo as a gunner and assumed that the 20mm was my only weapon in the cobra. After a few times out with a very seasoned pilot, he gently advised me to use my missles more. This got me thinking and researching into how to actually use the missles appropriately, etc. etc. So the moral of the story is that yeah you may get a newb (or a noob for that matter) in the gunner position, and if he doesn't use missles and tries to pepper a tank or APC with the 20mm, remind him to use his missles. If he knows how to use them, he hopefully will. If not, then hopefully he'll try to figure it out in which case you have good reason to leave him out of the picture the next go around.
2006-02-28 14:07:48
elite
Member
+89|7307|Sheffield, England
i totally agree, most people dont have a clue what to do, so i try and take off and do it all on my own, its really easy.
2006-02-28 16:48:48
DSRTurtle
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+56|7279
Don't come crying to me when you get pwnd because you don't have a descent gunner to help.

 

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