Chicago union strike

2012-09-10 19:06:33

#26

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5825

Jay wrote:
If dems weren't knowingly stuffing ballot boxes with illegal votes (like they've done for 170 years) it wouldn't even be an issue

???

Since October 2002, 86 individuals have been convicted of any type of election fraud – not necessarily voter impersonation – in federal elections, out of 196,139,871 ballots cast. During the same time frame, there have been ten cases of voter impersonation. To put it in context, you are more likely to be killed by a bolt of lightning, to win an Olympic medal, to drown in a bathtub, to become a saint, or die from a mountain lion attack in California than to witness voter impersonation.

2012-09-10 19:11:13

#27

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5597|London, England

13urnzz wrote:
Jay wrote:
He's not the target though... The obsession with illegals voting is what drives that. If dems weren't knowingly stuffing ballot boxes with illegal votes (like they've done for 170 years) it wouldn't even be an issue
back your shit up or GTFO

I live in New York, ex-home of Tammany Hall. They used to pull the Irish and Italians off the boat and directly into the voting booth to vote (D). Hell, Lincoln almost lost the state to a 3rd party. FDR brought New York style machine politics to the rest of the country. The whole divide and conquer shit didn't come from Karl Rove, but the wheelchaired 'hero'. He brought all the bullshit he learned from fighting Tammany with him into the Oval Office.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2012-09-10 19:17:52

#28

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5597|London, England

Macbeth wrote:
Jay wrote:
If dems weren't knowingly stuffing ballot boxes with illegal votes (like they've done for 170 years) it wouldn't even be an issue
???
Since October 2002, 86 individuals have been convicted of any type of election fraud – not necessarily voter impersonation – in federal elections, out of 196,139,871 ballots cast. During the same time frame, there have been ten cases of voter impersonation. To put it in context, you are more likely to be killed by a bolt of lightning, to win an Olympic medal, to drown in a bathtub, to become a saint, or die from a mountain lion attack in California than to witness voter impersonation.

Yes, because all instances are caught, just like every pot smoker is busted by the cops.

Blame ACORN for the current shitstorm and media focus.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2012-09-10 19:20:17

#29

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5825

Jay wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Jay wrote:
If dems weren't knowingly stuffing ballot boxes with illegal votes (like they've done for 170 years) it wouldn't even be an issue
???
Since October 2002, 86 individuals have been convicted of any type of election fraud – not necessarily voter impersonation – in federal elections, out of 196,139,871 ballots cast. During the same time frame, there have been ten cases of voter impersonation. To put it in context, you are more likely to be killed by a bolt of lightning, to win an Olympic medal, to drown in a bathtub, to become a saint, or die from a mountain lion attack in California than to witness voter impersonation.
Yes, because all instances are caught, just like every pot smoker is busted by the cops.

Blame ACORN for the current shitstorm and media focus.

A sizable chunk of people are caught smoking pot because there a re a lot of pot smokers. If there was a lot of voter fraud there would be more arrest for voter fraud.

2012-09-10 20:11:05

#30

A2TG2: Hazbeen; +67|4764|at your six

13urnzz wrote:
War Man wrote:
Edit: By the way, who you planning to vote for out of curiosity?
the party of Reagan and sane politics. for me that means anyone but rmoney.

You must mean Dr. Paul.

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2012-09-10 20:17:32

#31

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6932

This thread is entertaining.

Speaking of FDR:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19552745

Last edited by Superior Mind (2012-09-10 20:26:25)

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2012-09-10 20:31:08

#32

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5941|College Park, MD

Macbeth wrote:
Re: State ID's

I think it was Texas that said NRA IDs were valid to vote but state university IDs weren't. Really silly.

Can you vote in another state if you're there for college, or do you have to mail in an absentee ballot to your home state? Because if it's the latter, then that Texas rule may make sense. I know here at UMD our student IDs all look the same regardless of whether you're in-state or out-of-state. Not even any address on 'em.

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2012-09-10 21:08:19

#33

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5597|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Re: State ID's

I think it was Texas that said NRA IDs were valid to vote but state university IDs weren't. Really silly.
Can you vote in another state if you're there for college, or do you have to mail in an absentee ballot to your home state? Because if it's the latter, then that Texas rule may make sense. I know here at UMD our student IDs all look the same regardless of whether you're in-state or out-of-state. Not even any address on 'em.

You would have to change your residence by proving you live full time in the state. College students don't qualify though because then states couldn't rape out-of-state students on tuition.

Short answer: absentee ballot only

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2012-09-10 21:29:48

#34

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5941|College Park, MD

Well then I don't see why they'd accept university IDs since I don't think it's common practice to designate tuition status on them. The whole point of voter ID laws is to prove you can vote there (or to disenfranchise voters, depending on how you look at it), so IDK why they'd take a card that probably only has your name, ID number and issue date on it.

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2012-09-11 00:18:47

#35

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6955

Student ID's don't prove you're a citizen either. In oz they send you a letter to enrol (or you get a fine) filling in either citizen or non citizen, if citizen write down your citizen, birth certificate or passport number, you show up to voting place state name and address and vote (or you get a fine).

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2012-09-11 02:22:39

#36

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6954|US

13urnzz wrote:
Jay wrote:
You need an id to drive anyway, or open a bank account, or like 75,000,000 other things these days. I think my driver's license was like 25 bucks.
my father, has diabetes and luekemia. he does not drive, and my mother (may she rest in peace) set up a trust to pay taxes and utilities. the Utah fucking legislature passed a law that only valid government forms of ID will be accepted in the upcoming election, haha take that Rmoney the most republicant state in the onion wont let my FUCKING CRIPPLED DAD VOTE FOR YOU haha

http://vote.utah.gov/elections/requirements/
So, he can't even come up with a utility bill and bank statement?

2012-09-12 07:34:51

#37

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5825

Preventing another 86 causes of voter fraud stretched over a decade is not worth hassling millions of people.

2012-09-12 22:46:43

#38

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6954|US

Macbeth wrote:
Preventing another 86 causes of voter fraud stretched over a decade is not worth hassling millions of people.

Bringing two pieces of paper or an ID card is a hassle now?

I'm sure glad we never "hassle" people over using credit cards, buying alcohol, taking a trip on an airline, etc... /sarcasm

2012-09-12 23:22:18

#39

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6932

If you don't drive, don't travel, and can't afford to use a credit card, then it is a hassle to present valid ID. But anyone can get a library card, or a membership to Ralph's.

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