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SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

What a load of crap. Aware of your own radicalization, in writing, but still go and do the thing. Against porn but you want to go to a grocery store and penetrate people with your phallus cannon.

There's nothing inherently wrong or autistic with studying the stuff you buy before you buy it. People do that with all sorts of collections and hobbies. And devil's advocate, he was planning for the "most important" event of his life. The issue here I think is that it's a murder doc, but I guess you have a better handle on his writing style. I'm not particularly studying abnormal psych, so I don't really have a good reason to read or watch that stuff.
There is a funny part of the new Scream movie where one of the killers has a gun pointed at her by people she is trying to kill. She begs them not to kill her because "It's not my fault. I was radicalized online." Played for laughs.

I think the racism was secondary to the desire to kill people and be noticed. He spent more time comparing gear he could buy than making the case for why he needed to do what he did. I am not trying to downplay the racism. I just think it is another case of a loser guy being unhappy with himself so he kills innocent people.
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uziq
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online radicalized youths seem to take a pick-n-mix approach to ideology. anything that sufficiently fuels their hatred, alienation and anger at the world.

the same thing happened a decade ago, in what feels like an entirely different era, with islamic fundamentalism. young men on the internet, often times white and from disadvantaged backgrounds.

funnily enough, extremist islam is seen as symptomatic of a roTteN cuLtuRe and a tHreAt to WeSterN Civ, but when a white young man goes out armed with nazi iconography, he is just 'mentally ill' or needs to be understood in his 'socio-economic context', etc etc.
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I don't have anything against fiat currency.
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SuperJail Warden
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uziq wrote:

online radicalized youths seem to take a pick-n-mix approach to ideology. anything that sufficiently fuels their hatred, alienation and anger at the world.

the same thing happened a decade ago, in what feels like an entirely different era, with islamic fundamentalism. young men on the internet, often times white and from disadvantaged backgrounds.

funnily enough, extremist islam is seen as symptomatic of a roTteN cuLtuRe and a tHreAt to WeSterN Civ, but when a white young man goes out armed with nazi iconography, he is just 'mentally ill' or needs to be understood in his 'socio-economic context', etc etc.
One thing that I found interesting about this shooter and the El Paso one is that they both acknowledged that non-white people were people but they needed "to stay in their parts of the world." 'White people need their own space' That's the sort of defeatist attitude that would result in somebody deciding to give up on their lives at 18. White supremist went from wanting to colonize the entire world to simply demanding their own countries stop being "invaded." Only a lazy Gen Z white supremacist would just want a safe space.
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uziq
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err lebensraum is not a new concept and doesn’t have to be defensive only.
unnamednewbie13
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uziq wrote:

online radicalized youths seem to take a pick-n-mix approach to ideology. anything that sufficiently fuels their hatred, alienation and anger at the world.

the same thing happened a decade ago, in what feels like an entirely different era, with islamic fundamentalism. young men on the internet, often times white and from disadvantaged backgrounds.

funnily enough, extremist islam is seen as symptomatic of a roTteN cuLtuRe and a tHreAt to WeSterN Civ, but when a white young man goes out armed with nazi iconography, he is just 'mentally ill' or needs to be understood in his 'socio-economic context', etc etc.
"It's not a phase, mom!"
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

err lebensraum is not a new concept and doesn’t have to be defensive only.
Exactly, Israel is steadily expanding its lebensraum as we speak.
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SuperJail Warden
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I read some stuff about the links between Islamic extremists and modern alt-right or whatever extremism in the west. Terrorism experts call it salad bar extremism. Westerners pick and choose stuff from other opposite ideologies and mix it with their thing. The terrorism expert believes that the link between the two groups is an obsession with extreme violence.

I am aware that the whole "securing a land for white people" is old stuff. There is still a ton of defeatism in this and similar manifestos that I think says a lot about the authors. They acknowledge Asians have higher IQs than whites and built societies that are as organized as our own. There isn't any delusion any colonizing China and repopulating with white people like Hitler felt towards the slavs. There isn't any of Mussolini's idea of a modern colonial empire.

There's more too it but I don't have the time to pick apart the manifesto of 18 year autistic person.
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SuperJail Warden
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The man who the authorities said went on to carry out the vicious attack on a Buffalo grocery store came into contact with the police last year, after he made “generalized threats” at his high school, Joseph A. Gramaglia, the Buffalo police commissioner, confirmed on Sunday.

Mr. Gramaglia said that the threat, which was first reported by the Buffalo News, was not racial in nature. The state police referred him to a hospital for a mental health evaluation, the police said, and he was released a day and a half later.

After that, he appears to have faded from the radar of law enforcement.
and

Two students at Susquehanna Valley High School in Conklin, N.Y., described Payton Gendron’s behavior as odd leading up to their graduation last year. They also said that in 2020, once pandemic restrictions were lifted, the troubled teen wore a full hazmat suit to class.

“He wore the entire suit: boots, gloves, everything,” said Nathan Twitchell, 19, shaking his head.


“Everyone was just staring at him,” he added.

But that was one of the few times students saw Mr. Gendron, said 19-year-old Cassaundra Williams, another student at the high school. Ms. Williams said Mr. Gendron returned to online coursework even as his classmates resumed in-person learning.

"He was always very quiet and never much said anything,” said Ms. Williams, who added that Mr. Gendron was book smart but grew more reclusive over the years after she first remembered meeting him in elementary school.
Amazing how the person turned out to be exactly as I figured. I am an expert. Call me to testify.
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unnamednewbie13
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While it wouldn't learn to surprise me that someone like that was on the spectrum, it's still not a diagnosis.
SuperJail Warden
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A little on the spectrum? I bet he wore tissue boxes on his feet and wanted just one more Christmas with his parents.
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unnamednewbie13
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Jay's quirks aside, still an armchair diagnosis even if you were a psychiatrist. Similar vein to various courts of public opinion already decided on OJ Simpson before day 1 of the trial.

The tone in which you say "I bet this guy has autism" is unhelpful at best, otherwise seems spiteful, prejudicial, maybe outright ablelist. Plenty of people with some degree of autism who are more or less functional members of society, and/or mostly harmless.

This kid would have done well to smoke pot in the school restroom every now and then.
unnamednewbie13
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On the other hand, when there's been a mass shooting I usually expect to hear the perp's a white guy, which is usually validated. If I bring it up, it's usually in direct or necro counterpoint to garbage discussions about "why are black/____ people so violent/uncivilized."

What I don't do is come onto a forum posting pictures of the white shooter and his murderstream, and then spew a bunch of smug bile about the typical white people personality or whatever.

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SuperJail Warden
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Are you offended that I properly diagnosed the guy as autistic? It is not my fault I was able to look at a grainy picture of him and immediately understand the full content of his character: autistic.

Maybe the autistic community needs to do some soul searching and explain why almost all mass shooters are on the spectrum. Facts can't be ablest.
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unnamednewbie13
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Why should I have to be offended? I'm just pointing out why this sort of thing might be a bit problematic. You don't see how that could be a tad insidious if more people start going "ah-hah, typical autism?"
SuperJail Warden
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There were several school shootings where the autistic kid was known to be dangerous or scaring people at school and nothing could be done until they killed someone.
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unnamednewbie13
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The school nurse should be allowed to hand out edibles.
SuperJail Warden
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Now that I think of it, nobody has ever committed a mass killing while high on marijuana.
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This killer had a page on why porn is bad and why drugs are bad. What a loser. Probably wouldn't have been so angry if he got high and rubbed one out.
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unnamednewbie13
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You'd think that if you were writing a manifesto of all the evils in the world, mass terroristic killings would be pretty high up there.
SuperJail Warden
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Oftentimes I get high and think about the things that mad me angry at work. While really high I say "you know what. I will go back to work Monday and try to turn over a new leaf. I will be nice to the kid that I find annoying and just pass them to the next class without any trouble. I should try to be a nicer person because it really isn't that serious."

Then I go back into work Monday and try to be nice to the kid. I treat them nicely and with kindness and they treat me like shit and look at me like I am stupid and we are back to square one.
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SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

You'd think that if you were writing a manifesto of all the evils in the world, mass terroristic killings would be pretty high up there.
The dude had a graph complaining about how blacks are a drain on state expenses while also preparing to have the government take care of him until he is in his 80's in the prison medical hospital.
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unnamednewbie13
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lol, a graph. sociologists, hand in your phd's. America has been solved.
unnamednewbie13
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Telegram sounds like a wild place to be.

State Senator Who Backs White Nationalism Suggests Buffalo Shooting Was False Flag
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wendy-ro … c107750fb1
SuperJail Warden
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“We Americans who love this country are being replaced by people who do not love this country,” Rogers tweeted in July. “I will not back down from this statement. Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech, big corporations & other strategies to accomplish this.”
Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech, big corporations
Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education, big tech
Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration, education
Communists & our enemies are using mass immigration
Communists & our enemies
Communists
Communist? Shut the fuck up. Boring. Who writes that down and thinks "got them!" The lamest people.
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unnamednewbie13
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As long as you get all your trigger words in there you could fill the space in between with lorem ipsum.

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