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unnamednewbie13
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Immediate consequence I'd think is a rise in sentiment that libs are coming for your guns. Of course, that would rise anyway at jus the speculative mention of libs coming for your guns.

Guns lying about openly is ghastly common in gun-carrying households. In drawers, under pillows/mattresses. Nightstands. Shotgun propped up in the corner of the room. How are you gonna shoot a bad guy if it's locked up? But that all the crimson red flags were ignored here is pretty damning. I can only imagine they though his "cries for help" were faked for attention. The note does read pretty hammy.
SuperJail Warden
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The mom who was charged wrote an open letter to Donald Trump in 2016.

https://archive.vn/rRL9y

+1 to whoever reads it and gives me their thoughts. It's a doozy.
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unnamednewbie13
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I lost it at the part about a Woman's Intuition. I guess her son is strike two on that. Hillary's voice had an evil cold, rofl. Yes, that was her observation alone, and not at all parroted by the junk I suspect she was reading or listening to. The whole letter has a disjointed cadence.

It's important to note the Obamacare stuff she mentioned may have merit. Prices did go up for a number of people. Some who were about to buy health insurance, and then it went out of their price range. Ten millions of uninsured Americans who can't afford health care. Problems here predating Obama's presidency, of course. Do you think that with a better, unimpeded Obamacare package that the kid might have been more likely to get psychiatric help? Had he even been to the school counsellor?

Also common core's problematic implementation, and the lack of access so many Americans have to tutors. I wonder if the car insurance she had to pay for would have covered her in a collision, or weaseled out of it and have been a waste of money anyway. Not an excuse for mass murder, of course, but did she have reason to anticipate that back in 2016 high off the kool-aid?
SuperJail Warden
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Michigan wisely adopted the expanded healthcare options brought on by the Affordable Care Act. Even the Medicaid expansion.
https://www.uofmhealth.org/patient-visi … newoptions

Anyhow, the whole post is like "Level 9 Macbeth Oversharing". So many red flags. Like she called herself "MIDDLE CLASS" despite only making $40,000 a year. Her husband is disabled. She must get something from the Federal government for that. $600 a month for insurance to cover a family of four...reasonable. Generous even. How do you only make $40,000 as a realtor? I get that the NYC area market is different than Michigan but yikes. And I will bet good money her kid is special ed. And those mental disabilities just run through families. Dilbert can tell you about the genes of it.

So I suspect that mental healthcare services for her kid was accessible enough if this lady (A) took the time to look into it. She seemed to be in denial. (B) she had the brain power to do some Googling and make some calls. Michigan is a blueish state. They definitely have a healthcare and human services website that can link people with pediatric mental healthcare services.
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unnamednewbie13
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40k a year would have been "middle class" ages ago. Now it's a value you state when you want to undervalue yourself to an interviewer. Meanwhile there are people even worse off going "y'all are getting 40k a year?"

Anyway, not absolving the parents responsibility for not addressing it when these red flags were popping up.
uziq
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the problem is surely how elastic the term 'middle-class' is in america, largely because, for Reasons, nobody wants to  use the politically tainted and socially shameful term 'working-class', despite the fact that, structurally speaking, surely the majority of americans are solidly working class.

middle-class in europe used to mean bourgeois, that is, property-owning at the very least if not owning of the means of production (businesses, factories, labour, etc.) everyone else who had to actually earn a wage to pay their rent/mortgage and survive was solidly working-class. americans for some reason have eschewed this definition. i guess it's part of that national ethos of 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires' and whatnot. positive visualisation!

average salary is apparently now $56,000 or thereabouts, but in a country as vast (and unequal) as the USA, that sort of stat is obviously going to ring hollow for a lot of people. i imagine $56,000 per person in a family-sized household in the mid-west or south would be a pretty 'middle-class' lifestyle; not so much on the coasts, of course.

tl;dr: let's revive the working-classes. get grubby and get political! workers of the world, unite!

Last edited by uziq (2021-12-03 20:06:28)

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The U.S. Marshals and the Oakland County Fugitive Apprehension Team searched Friday night for the parents of Ethan Crumbley, the 15-year-old Oxford High sophomore charged with first-degree murder in the slayings of four students in Tuesday's mass shooting.

At one point Friday, authorities say each parent had stopped responding to their attorneys.

"The action of fleeing and ignoring their attorney certainly adds weight to the

charges," Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard said in a statement. "They cannot run from their part in this tragedy.”

By late Friday night, U.S. Marshals announced a reward of up to $10,000 for information that leads to their arrests.
Oh lord. They are famous
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unnamednewbie13
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Wow. So was the mom not joking with their emojiface text to the kid about not getting caught?
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Pure gold

"We are good fucking Americans that cannot get ahead"

"Yours Truly,
A hard working Middle Class Law Abiding Citizen who is sick of getting fucked in the ass and would rather be grabbed by the pussy."

Do they know its the same person?
Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй!
SuperJail Warden
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"Crowd panics at Oxford MI High School shooting vigil, reportedly after someone fainted and people starting calling for help."

Worst mass panic video I have ever seen. 10/10

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout … _shooting/
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unnamednewbie13
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bigfatassdad
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7 hr. ago
The other side of this is that all across the state of Michigan our schools are closing because people are calling, texting, and emailing threats using pictures of firearms and threatening violence. It doesn’t feel exactly like September 12th, where we were all waiting for another terrorist attack, but it’s close.
Interesting.

Over 100 Michigan School Districts Closed Due To Threats After Deadly Shooting (huffpo)
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ove … 14130.html

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unnamednewbie13
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Recent shooting lead me to start digging through old shootings. Of possible interest to you, via wiki,

February 16, 1867    Knights Ferry, California    2[n 1]    0    Mr. McGinnis was killed by his daughter's teacher after McGinnis threatened the teacher for expelling his daughter from school. When McGinnis' son learned of this, he went to the school and killed the teacher.[8]
unnamednewbie13
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August 16, 1856    Florence, Alabama    2    0    The schoolmaster warned students not to harm his tame sparrow, threatening death. One of the boys stepped on the bird and killed it. When the boy returned to school, the master took the boy into a private room and strangled him. The boy's father upon hearing what had happened went to the school and shot the schoolmaster dead.[4]
Sounds like a bad TV show. May be a good description for this country, though.

https://i.imgur.com/zfN5bPH.jpg

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SuperJail Warden
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Recent shooting lead me to start digging through old shootings. Of possible interest to you, via wiki,

February 16, 1867    Knights Ferry, California    2[n 1]    0    Mr. McGinnis was killed by his daughter's teacher after McGinnis threatened the teacher for expelling his daughter from school. When McGinnis' son learned of this, he went to the school and killed the teacher.[8]
Why are the Irish so murderous?
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uziq
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according to their genetic top trumps card (i just checked the database), they score lowly on social cooperation and instead have boosted stats for creativity but also religious sectarianism (

not a good race. i’d be pissed if i got one of these in a booster pack. maybe next season they’ll rejig the deck and give them a fairer share of that white genius.
unnamednewbie13
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Buff Ireland plz.

https://i.imgur.com/LadQAKd.png
SuperJail Warden
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NYStateOfMind/ … g_cartels/

Gang killing in Puerto Rico. I know you guys are not into this but this one is special. It is probably the most extreme and HD of any gang killing I have ever seen. A lot of this comes across my desk so I would know.
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unnamednewbie13
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Where were the good guys with guns?
SuperJail Warden
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The five guys who got smoked also had guns.

Speaking of 5 guys...you know how Google autogenerates ads based on website content? The ads on the website with the story of what happened were for Five Guys, the burger place.
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unnamednewbie13
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Who said Skynet wasn't developing a dark sense of humor.
uziq
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this is absolutely fucking mental. absolutely crazy. these people are unhinged.

kyle rittenhouse is even more shameless than peak-era O.J. simpson. there must be book deal soon.

Last edited by uziq (2021-12-23 06:54:06)

unnamednewbie13
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Recalling the story from that qanoncasualties subreddit about the Q-nutter who broke a doctor's nose, calling them a murderer because they wouldn't treat her husband with quackery. Like why even take your sick family into the hospital at that point if you have that little faith that they know what they're doing.

This is the twilight zone.
uziq
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yeah there is such a deficit of basic humanity and civil-feeling in american life, by the seems of it.

assaulting doctors because you are sure they are 'genocidal maniacs' who are trying to kill your husband.

cheering on a guy who shot to death 2 people and seriously injured another.

like, even if rittenhouse is innocent in the eyes of the law, and is himself a victim of media smearing or whatever it is they're claiming ... c'mon. have some humility. several people died in a totally avoidable tragedy. instead they are cheering this guy as if he's a political martyr. this is americans killing americans, not some 'far enemy'.

absolute madness, i have no idea what it will take to heal the division in your society.
unnamednewbie13
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Many of the American conservatives I know would at least react with some measure of disgust to both stories.

Turning Point awhile back opened Professor Watchlist ( https://professorwatchlist.org ), so I guess the Q-heads have their hitlist all ready to go for when the time for the Night of Long Compensators comes along.

e: In other areas, CPAC's golden Trump idol was defended by its sculptor saying it wasn't a golden idol. "Liberals don't know the difference!" OK. - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … -not-idol/

Not exactly comparable to the hitlist website or placing KR on a pedestal I know, but still a thing.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2021-12-23 08:41:41)

SuperJail Warden
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As disturbing to you as it might be to see Kyle R. get such fanfare at this event keep in mind that conservatives have to see disturbing things whenever they turn on their televisions too. Why is it okay for gay people to be on T.V.?

I am only half joking. Conservatives would say liberals promote degenerate behavior and beliefs all the time. There are now gay country music stars and the founding fathers are black. Up is down. Their way of life is under attack.
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