Official Mass Shooting & Suicide Bomber thread

2021-03-23 18:23:34

#2151

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

uziq wrote:
yeah i only saw his mugshot once in passing. i haven’t been reading the daily western news churn whilst here. it’s kind of nice not to think about it. i can probably skip america rehashing the AR-15 debate for the 13,764th time.

just remember: this one can’t be mentally ill and he definitely didn’t just have ‘a really bad day’. he is evil incarnate and an existential threat to your way of life!

Have you developed strong opinions about the Korean War yet? How do you feel about Japan and China? These are all exciting new hills to die on instead of discussions about 5.56 rounds blowing holes into people just going about their day.

2021-03-23 18:27:17

#2152

uziq: Member; +493|3669

they are indeed but i'm cultivating buddha blisses of my own.

2021-03-23 23:57:16

#2153

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6323|eXtreme to the maX

Aaaand Biden just guaranteed the mid-terms will go to the Republicans.

Nothing will get them more stoked than an assault weapons ban.

Obviously its retarded that a mentally ill muslim can buy an machine gun assault weapon, maybe this will change it.

Fuck Israel

2021-03-24 00:56:24

#2154

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

The AR literally stands for "assault rifle," (e: lol wrong) not "automatic rifle." It's certainly not a machine gun and you can't turn it into one by attacking it with a screwdriver. By sarcastically crossing that out, were you trying to make a point like "it is one but we're not allowed to say it?" I'd hope not, I thought you were a gun guy.

Muslims should be allowed to own guns in a country where gun ownership is legal. I don't even see why you included that as a descriptor.

2021-03-24 02:03:27

#2155

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

It's interesting that all of the people who were like DoN't PuBlISh ThE nAmE a few days ago are straight up putting this shooter's name into headlines because the shooter is an Arab.

2021-04-16 07:04:14

#2156

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

Mass shooting at a FedEx last night. 8 dead. This probably won't be a major news event since it happened in a pretty private area. An interesting part of this story is that the non-unionized FedEx employees were prohibited from keeping their cellphones on them at work. She people were unable to call for help, let their loved ones know they are okay, say last goodbyes etc. Some victims got in their cars and drove themselves to the hospital because ambulance may have been delayed due to the lack of communication.

2021-04-16 09:15:30

#2157

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

The company told Business Insider early Friday morning it's reconsidering the policy in the aftermath of a mass shooting at one of its Indianapolis facilities that left eight people and the gunman dead.

A FedEx spokesperson would not comment on the policy when asked by IndyStar.

“Our immediate priorities are the safety and well-being of our team members and cooperation with law enforcement at this time,” he said.

I suppose that's all they have to say for themselves.

As Responsible Americans, we're supposed to use companies that aren't complete turds to their employees, but where do you even find those for some things?

2021-04-16 09:22:14

#2158

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

Your only responsibility as a consumer is to get the best value for your money. Holding corporations to account is your responsibility as a voter.

2021-04-16 09:47:21

#2159

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

Yeah well, but it wouldn't sit right with me buying slavery chocolate just because I already voted and it's someone else's responsibility to regulate that. Same thought goes into buying eggs, milk, meat. I like to know where that's from so I'm not supporting a farm that's like Hellraiser for piglets.

I think people who are hyper concerned about the welfare of dogs and cats, but don't care about how well or horribly livestock get to live, are weird. So that's a lot of people.

2021-04-16 09:54:36

#2160

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6954|Oxferd Ohire

What if I care about cows but not chickens

2021-04-16 10:06:26

#2161

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

Avians are not mammals so in all likelihood they do not have souls.

2021-04-16 10:40:11

#2162

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

In the land of reality, chicken farming can get pretty ghoulish. "Birds living too close together and acting out their territorial meanness? What do you mean space them out more? Just melt their beaks off so they can't peck." Some of the processing machines can be less than 100%. "Saw missed an artery and the bird's still alive? Into the scalder it goes! Those feathers need to come off."

These aren't things people usually want to hear, "please, my appetite." I don't really go out of my way to talk about it, but sometimes it comes up organically in a conversation I didn't steer.

In some cases, there's laws against it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ag-gag

Proponents of the laws note that public documentation of factory farming practices will result in negative consequences for the industry. "State Sen. David Hinkins (R), who sponsored Utah's law, said it was aimed at the 'vegetarian people who are trying to kill the animal industry.'"

rofl

"It's so bad that filming it will hurt the industry!"
"I know, let's not film it!"

Amazing.

2021-04-16 10:54:02

#2163

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6954|Oxferd Ohire

I do eat meat like once a week now. Though I eat eggs all the time and I know that support the meat grinder.

2021-04-17 18:02:39

#2164

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6931|Purplicious Wisconsin

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
The AR literally stands for "assault rifle," not "automatic rifle." It's certainly not a machine gun and you can't turn it into one by attacking it with a screwdriver. By sarcastically crossing that out, were you trying to make a point like "it is one but we're not allowed to say it?" I'd hope not, I thought you were a gun guy.

Muslims should be allowed to own guns in a country where gun ownership is legal. I don't even see why you included that as a descriptor.

Actually AR in AR-15 stands for Armalite. The company that first made it, it got adopted by the military and eventually became the M16. But civilian derivatives just have AR-15 nomenclature.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2021-04-17 18:15:28

#2165

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

I stand corrected. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that, I know this, and have in the past debunked what I wrote there. Even if it was late at night that was no excuse.

At the very least the point that it doesn't mean "automatic rifle," still stands. Just wrongly argued. (Maybe I'd meant to word that for assault too but failed?) Anyway I suppose it doesn't help that legal and technical classifications are muddied a lot in articles.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2021-04-17 20:08:30)

2021-04-18 00:51:04

#2166

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

Is it okay to call a semiautomatic AK pattern rifle a AK-47 or do we have to call it by whatever the producer is whether that is WASR or Saiga or someone else?

I don't like when gun people say "YoU dOn'T kNoW aBoUt GuNs" when a mass shooting survivor says "the guy came in shooting an AK". Many of the rifles shot at American troops over the years have been Type 56's from China and not real AKM or 47's. Do you American troops in Iraq properly identified every Type 56 when discussing the insurgency? Am I right for thinking gun people are annoying for demanding entirely precise language when talking about non-technical aspects of fun control and culture?

2021-04-18 02:24:15

#2167

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

I think legislation should technically accurate to remove the distraction of terminology argumentation and to close potential loopholes. "Assault-type weapon" is maybe an OK generalization for reporting that gets the point across to most readers in a language we're accustomed to.

Still, I spoke in exact terms. Derp.

How long have Americans been arguing about assault weapons vs. assault rifles now? How many voices has that drowned out.

2021-04-18 02:24:28

#2168

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6323|eXtreme to the maX

I think its fair to call anything descended from an AK-47 'an AK' since it literally means - 'automatic by Kalashnikov' where 'by' means 'designed by'.
(Russians are proud of their design engineers and put their names on things - Its why they will soon rule Europe)

Calling everything 'an AK-47' seems to make gun nerds angry, so don't do it.

Fuck Israel

2021-04-18 02:26:06

#2169

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|6989|PNW

Should this AK-47 be able to be owned legally?

2021-04-18 02:29:19

#2170

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,813|6323|eXtreme to the maX

Well now the SKS wasn't designed by Kalashnikov.

Fuck Israel

2021-04-18 06:23:14

#2171

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +563|6931|Purplicious Wisconsin

SuperJail Warden wrote:
Is it okay to call a semiautomatic AK pattern rifle a AK-47 or do we have to call it by whatever the producer is whether that is WASR or Saiga or someone else?

I don't like when gun people say "YoU dOn'T kNoW aBoUt GuNs" when a mass shooting survivor says "the guy came in shooting an AK". Many of the rifles shot at American troops over the years have been Type 56's from China and not real AKM or 47's. Do you American troops in Iraq properly identified every Type 56 when discussing the insurgency? Am I right for thinking gun people are annoying for demanding entirely precise language when talking about non-technical aspects of fun control and culture?

AK or AK style is generally fine.

Dilbert_X wrote:
I think its fair to call anything descended from an AK-47 'an AK' since it literally means - 'automatic by Kalashnikov' where 'by' means 'designed by'.
(Russians are proud of their design engineers and put their names on things - Its why they will soon rule Europe)

Calling everything 'an AK-47' seems to make gun nerds angry, so don't do it.

I think I recall Kalashnikov being unhappy with how it ended up being used and essentially the schematics were sent to a bunch of 3rd world revolutionary nations and mass produced that way. I can't recall where I found reading that though. Kinda ironic it would be though.

The "AK-47" was the prototype designation, when it was adopted, it became the "AK". Which is why, when the Russians had a good stamping technique figured out for the AK, it is AKM instead of AK47M.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2021-04-18 18:32:53

#2172

SuperJail Warden: Gone Forever; +640|3937

Three people were pronounced dead at the scene of a shooting in Austin, Texas, on Sunday, according to tweets from Austin-Travis County EMS.

The shooting appears to be "a domestic situation that is isolated," a tweet from Austin police said.
Police identified the suspect, still at large, as Stephen Nicholas Broderick, 41.

Broderick is a former Travis County Sheriff's Office detective who was charged with the sexual assault of a child, Travis County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Kristen Dark told CNN.

Dark said Broderick resigned from the department last year after he was arrested and charged with sexual assault of a child. He was arrested June 20 and released on bond the same month.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/18/us/austi … index.html
Former cop charged with child rape decides to kill people he apparently knew before going on the run. Really must be scary in Austin right now since there is a guy running around the city with guns, nothing to lose, and an appetite for destruction.

2021-05-27 07:55:53