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DesertFox-
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According to the crazies, it's a false flag of sorts. They speculate they dude is a fall guy, if they think he even died at all. Somehow AT&T is related to the Dominion voting stuff in Georgia even though that's a different state and it makes no sense why. I don't get how conspiracy theorists can rightly point out some credibility issues of mainstream media, but then tell you to watch an unsourced youtube video from some anonymous person or point to secondhand twitter information as gospel. Other notable "news" from that neck of the woods is that the nurse who fainted after getting the covid vaccine died and was replaced by a double, CIA director Gina Haspel died in a raid on some facility in Germany, and Rep. Adam Schiff was secretly arrested.
uziq
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i posted a cool article that touches on conspiracy thinking and the paranoid sensibility in the main d&st chats thread.
Larssen
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Yup well that was a myth too. They're all radio waves and we've been shooting those all over the place for close to a century now. There is a scientific consensus on the fact that they're totally safe within certain energy levels and frequencies, which are regulated. 5g included.
uziq
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there is also a small amount of scientific dissensus about 5G, which is precisely what i am talking about as being worth mentioning. consensus-making often implies some level of dissension, too. i know that's a novel concept for an EU stan.

i am not a 5G skeptic, by the way, as if that needs to be pointed out. i am totally in line with the consensus you mention. but my point is that any emerging technology is going to sow seeds of doubt amongst paranoid conspiracy nuts, if anyone is at all honest about the scientific method.

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Larssen
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There's also a small scientific dissensus about global warming. Or about the pandemic, look to that idiot doctor in Marseille.
uziq
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yes there is, of course. are you somehow missing the part where i said conspiracy thinkers don't actually care about the scientific discourse on a topic, in any case. they self-select what suits them. the scientific working out and dissensus is often just their tipping point.

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unnamednewbie13
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Devil's advocacy aside, ongoing research into the effects of 5G probably doesn't involve much looking into how it transmits covid-19.

God help us if such a thing ever came into our reality.
uziq
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yes, i think my point was lost there. probably my fault. what i'm trying to say is that lots of our current understanding of any cutting-edge technology comes from a fair amount of dissension and skepticism. i am not referring to climate change denialists or 5G alarmists; there's a spectrum from 'crank' to legitimate scientific caveat. the process of testing and working out new technology then seeds loony conspiracy thinking. i probably haven't explained it very well. i read the letters pages of journals all day long and see the constructive back-and-forth that takes place in comments/replies, letters to editor, etc.
unnamednewbie13
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I wasn't calling your post into question, it was a spin-off.

I've read a lot of language with words like "possibly" and "varies" and "raises questions" in health articles connected to radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation. I would hazard (heh) that it would be more of a danger to RF technicians than someone with a cell phone in their pocket at all times.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,716|4915|eXtreme to the maX

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

So I'm reading that the RV bomb suspect was a 5G conspiracy theorist. I don't know if that's true, but still … great. /s

What next. Car bombing vaccine labs?
If they persist in using invisible needles to inject people with mind control chips then yes - obviously.

I've read a lot of language with words like "possibly" and "varies" and "raises questions" in health articles connected to radiofrequency electromagnetic radiation. I would hazard (heh) that it would be more of a danger to RF technicians than someone with a cell phone in their pocket at all times.
How many times have we been told "this is perfectly safe, no risk at all!" only to find out "yes we knew there was some risk, based on 20 minutes testing on hamsters, but the companies involved paid us a lot of money so we decided the short term benefits outweighed the long term hazards, whatever they may be - we don't actually know - anyway, its your problem now"

Larssen wrote:

Yup well that was a myth too. They're all radio waves and we've been shooting those all over the place for close to a century now. There is a scientific consensus on the fact that they're totally safe within certain energy levels and frequencies, which are regulated. 5g included.
There's a whole lot of difference between being exposed to barely detectable long wave radiation and holding a poly-frequency microwave emitter to your head.

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Epstein didn't kill himself
Larssen
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Well Dilbert good thing there's regulation and standardisation wrt radio frequencies no? Your neighbourhood 4g mast isn't emitting high powered microwaves into the surroundings.
unnamednewbie13
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The mind control chips will have to contend with the toxobrains of cat owners.

How many times have we been told "this is perfectly safe, no risk at all!" only to find out "yes we knew there was some risk, based on 20 minutes testing on hamsters, but the companies involved paid us a lot of money so we decided the short term benefits outweighed the long term hazards, whatever they may be - we don't actually know - anyway, its your problem now"
That's not what I've been reading all along though. I've read that the effects aren't fully understood but studies indicate they're harmless in low amounts.

If in some parallel universe 5G turned out to be instant cancer, good luck to the Mirror Americans trying to sue Mirror Telecoms.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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So the FBI dropped the ball on this guy? They were warned he was making bombs a year ago and did nothing?

At least he was right on this

The suspect had reportedly made statements about a "lizard people" conspiracy theory which claims politicians and celebrities such as Justin Bieber and the Obamas are lizards with alien origins which are now taking over the world.
Epstein didn't kill himself
uziq
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that’s david icke.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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You mean Prophet Icke
Epstein didn't kill himself
SuperJail Warden
Gone Forever
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So if the guy was angry at the lizard people then AT&T was in fact the target. Do you remember that movie "They Live"? How did it end? The heroes destroyed the broadcasting dish that disguised the aliens. Guy tried to do the same thing to AT&T.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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If the lizard people are infecting us with Covid via the 5g network then taking out AT+T makes perfect sense.
Epstein didn't kill himself
unnamednewbie13
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It turns out that advancing all these wild conspiracy theories isn't just a bit of completely cute and harmless fun after all. Imagine if the guy hadn't issued any warnings.

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