Jay wrote:I'm in favor of a ban on semi-automatic weapons with detachable magazines, personally.
Edit - however, the counter argument will always be that you would be putting law abiding citizens at a disadvantage against people who flout the law. It also wouldn't prevent someone bent on mass murder from just carrying multiple disposable weapons. There's no easy fix
There are plenty of things which could
be done to reduce the risk, but then of course we'd have the retards yelling "there's no point doing anything if it doesn't 200% guarantee there will never be a mass-murder again ever ever and whatever anyone comes up with would be unconstitutional anyway so lets not even think about it"
The likelihood of the average citizen really needing more firepower than the average criminal does not make for much of an argument. You're probably better off worrying about Martians invading, or having the appropriate firearm to deal with huge worms breaking into your gun-vault. Or you can stack up your 100rnd clips just in case Serbians try to car-jack you. Not that self-defence features anywhere in the constitutional right to own a gun as far as I know.
The US managed to ban production and sale of (new) fully automatic weapons in the civilian market, its a felony to possess a sawn-off shot-gun - after all only a criminal would have a use for either. Apparently this is all fine and constitutional and hasn't been overturned, so there are possibilities to change the laws which probably wouldn't result in the British invading and reclaiming their birthright.
In fact "shall not be infringed" has been so thoroughly infringed as to be as good as invalid. Parity of arms with the govt went away about a century ago. Can the average American own a modern artillery piece? Anti-tank missile? Anti-aircraft cannon? No, only small-arms and then not small-arms comparable with what the govt has. When once it was musket vs musket and cannon vs cannon its now 5.56mm pop-gun vs 155mm fin-stabilised shaped charge projectile. A sensible court would rule the 2nd amendment was null and void in about 1920.
The assault weapons ban and high-capacity magazine bans passed all the tests, and were let lapse by Duhbya.
What I would do:
Ban sale of semi-automatic rifles below a certain length - full-size M16/AR15s, Garands etc can be used for mass-shootings but are that much harder to carry and conceal.
Ban sale of a device which effectively converts any firearm to fully automatic operation
Ban sale of magazines with a capacity of greater than 10 rounds
Maybe make some exceptions for serving members of the National Guard, actually make the 'militia' thing make some kind of sense.
Close the 'gun show' loophole - anyone purchasing a firearm, receiving as a gift, from a relative or whatever, should go through a background check.
That someone can buy a gun and hand it straight to a crazy is beyond retarded. Actually I'd introduce registration and take the pain of the nutballs going on about 'muh freedums'. People need a licence and registration to drive a car but not to own a gun, its retarded.
Probably set a min age of 21 for owning any kind of semi-automatic firearm.
^ None of this would guarantee there would be no more mass-shootings, or really impinge on anyone's freedoms, but it would put a crimp on things.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2018-02-19 02:44:17)
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