Diff system in the UK where you can do a one year transition degree and become a lawyer.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
law schools prefer people who are smart and logical and can pony up the money. Law firms prefer people who are law school graduates. Doesn't really matter as far as the background goes. The reality is law schools get more humanities applicants than STEM. Most people don't go get a degree in engineering or a medical degree and then decide to go to law school. Some do, most don't.
What kind of law are you studying? What'd you get your degree in?
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I've claimed numerous post-nominal titles at various points with no negative repurcussions to date.Jay wrote:
I kinda always wanted PhD, PE, MD, esquire after my name
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shame you're never going to get any of them now.Jay wrote:
I kinda always wanted PhD, PE, MD, esquire after my name
actually plenty of surveys have shown that law schools prefer philosophy grads to physics grads. they write better and the courtroom environment relies upon rhetoric and performativity more than an egghead insistence on empiricism. philosophy and literature grads are consistently some of the highest performers on the LSAT.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
law schools prefer people who are smart and logical and can pony up the money. Law firms prefer people who are law school graduates. Doesn't really matter as far as the background goes. The reality is law schools get more humanities applicants than STEM. Most people don't go get a degree in engineering or a medical degree and then decide to go to law school. Some do, most don't.
What kind of law are you studying? What'd you get your degree in?
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I will agree and say it doesn't attract the most exciting people in the world because it is quite a boring job...uziq wrote:
every person Ive known to go to law school was boring as fuck. and normally got a 2:1. Except for one guy who got a first in jurisprudence from wadham and is now smashing it at the top of his game, the way it's meant to be done.
How many accountants do you know? My brother used to be a reasonably interesting fellow, then did his accounting degree and has now become the most undesirable dinner party guest ever. Such is the case with a few others who went down that road as well.uziq wrote:
every person Ive known to go to law school was boring as fuck. and normally got a 2:1. Except for one guy who got a first in jurisprudence from wadham and is now smashing it at the top of his game, the way it's meant to be done.
Then you realise that the compensation isn't actually all that good for the amount of hours you spend chained to a desk everyday.uziq wrote:
I think that goes for a vast swathe of white collar work tbh, so don't be too down or hard on your profession. you quickly realise that a lot of the remuneration is actually a compensation package for spending your whole life doing inane shite. I had the same thing a couple years ago when I dabbled in advertising and PR. great salaries for relatively easy work... but what a soul shattering daily existence.
Sue the bastardUltrafunkula wrote:
I know a lawyer pretty well and he's almost as twisted as his clients. But in a good, humorous way. Not in the "let me just stab that teenager in the head" twisted way. Guy has some pretty good nerves to be representing all the maniacs.
ed. Then again the shithead that forgot to put my case forward to the court was a complete moron with complete lack of social skills. Now my friend is helping me get that prick responsible and pay me a pile of € for the fuckups. Filed a complaint against the geezer and he would've been kicked out of the union (or whatever it is) unless he had already resigned a few months earlier. Guy had a huge pile of complaints already.
just like everyone sacrifices a decade of their life to train for academia and realises that 40% of it is teaching first-years who haven't done the reading, 20% is marking and admin, 20% is writing grants and trying to climb the slippery pole, and maybe 20% – during the summer hiatus – is when you get to slip back into that rarefied bliss of sitting in an academic library and reading and researching your beloved specialism...teddy..jimmy wrote:
Then you realise that the compensation isn't actually all that good for the amount of hours you spend chained to a desk everyday.uziq wrote:
I think that goes for a vast swathe of white collar work tbh, so don't be too down or hard on your profession. you quickly realise that a lot of the remuneration is actually a compensation package for spending your whole life doing inane shite. I had the same thing a couple years ago when I dabbled in advertising and PR. great salaries for relatively easy work... but what a soul shattering daily existence.
The job is 90% admin and 10% law.
Butttttt perhaps this should be included in the first world problems thread.
Nice, do you know a half reasonable solicitor somewhere near but not in Swindon?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
As of yesterday I am a fully qualified lawyer in England and Wales and now have a group of 30 minions I can delegate allllll my work to. Woohoo.
I'm afraid not I'm City based but what is your problem? Google should bring up some decent onesDilbert_X wrote:
Nice, do you know a half reasonable solicitor somewhere near but not in Swindon?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
As of yesterday I am a fully qualified lawyer in England and Wales and now have a group of 30 minions I can delegate allllll my work to. Woohoo.
I need to fuck someone's shit up and its not easy from Australia, I need a good lawyer to instruct, probably a few letters will be enough to shake the other party out of their brain-fug.
Actually I want a cheap drunk because they're the most fun, to socialise with and see in court, and they tell the best stories.
There are very few jobs which aren't soul-shattering, and yes it is called 'compensation' for a reason. Very few people get to do anything useful, change the world etc. It isn't actually a bad philosophy to follow that your worth to society is to some extent reflected in your wage. The number of citations you get in a year, the number of people who say hello [your name] when you walk into the pub/yacht club/bordello are also equally valid affirmations of your worth, each to their own.uziq wrote:
I think that goes for a vast swathe of white collar work tbh, so don't be too down or hard on your profession. you quickly realise that a lot of the remuneration is actually a compensation package for spending your whole life doing inane shite. I had the same thing a couple years ago when I dabbled in advertising and PR. great salaries for relatively easy work... but what a soul shattering daily existence.
my housemate is the manager of child protection services in Swindon (he commutes from Cheltenham). small/weird world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Nice, do you know a half reasonable solicitor somewhere near but not in Swindon?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
As of yesterday I am a fully qualified lawyer in England and Wales and now have a group of 30 minions I can delegate allllll my work to. Woohoo.
I need to fuck someone's shit up and its not easy from Australia, I need a good lawyer to instruct, probably a few letters will be enough to shake the other party out of their brain-fug.
Actually I want a cheap drunk because they're the most fun, to socialise with and see in court, and they tell the best stories.
I won full scholarships during a time when postgrad funding for the humanities has pretty much been culled, and there's increasing ideological drive to extinguish it almost completely. I don't know about % quotients but I can say that I was the only person in my entire graduating cohort to be offered a full postgrad deal. I think the department had one a year and the entire humanities faculty about 4. so I get those feels. it's nice to be valued (and found sexy) for your mind.Dilbert_X wrote:
There are very few jobs which aren't soul-shattering, and yes it is called 'compensation' for a reason. Very few people get to do anything useful, change the world etc. It isn't actually a bad philosophy to follow that your worth to society is to some extent reflected in your wage. The number of citations you get in a year, the number of people who say hello [your name] when you walk into the pub/yacht club/bordello are also equally valid affirmations of your worth, each to their own.uziq wrote:
I think that goes for a vast swathe of white collar work tbh, so don't be too down or hard on your profession. you quickly realise that a lot of the remuneration is actually a compensation package for spending your whole life doing inane shite. I had the same thing a couple years ago when I dabbled in advertising and PR. great salaries for relatively easy work... but what a soul shattering daily existence.
Since we are comparing academic privilege I think its about time I reminded all and sundry that my BEng to easily the best college in Britain was fully funded, and so was my MSc.
This was in days of yore when the top 10% went to university, the top 1% went on to a Masters, I was offered two fully funded PhDs - I believe the male and female faculty leaders all thought I was hot, it wasn't because I was smart.
This I am sure is going to cause you all to like me.
I can assure you that my worth to society is not reflected in my wage. On the basis of this I should be on £10 per annum.Dilbert_X wrote:
it isn't actually a bad philosophy to follow that your worth to society is to some extent reflected in your wage.
are you dotting the i's and crossing the t's?..teddy..jimmy wrote:
Then you realise that the compensation isn't actually all that good for the amount of hours you spend chained to a desk everyday.uziq wrote:
I think that goes for a vast swathe of white collar work tbh, so don't be too down or hard on your profession. you quickly realise that a lot of the remuneration is actually a compensation package for spending your whole life doing inane shite. I had the same thing a couple years ago when I dabbled in advertising and PR. great salaries for relatively easy work... but what a soul shattering daily existence.
The job is 90% admin and 10% law.
Butttttt perhaps this should be included in the first world problems thread.
