probably, and at the same time there aren't enough. And some laws are enforced more strict than others.
What do you know, a situation that isn't black and white. Amazing.
What do you know, a situation that isn't black and white. Amazing.
what does race have to do with it?eleven bravo wrote:
hurricane why do you try so hard to show the world that you want to be a 90's era conservative douchebag. youre still not white
it has everything to do with it
when you're racist
when you're racist
No, you're the ignorant one. Tell me how gun laws are going to stop criminals from illegally obtaining weapons and going on sprees with them. It's not that hard to find an illegal weapon. Besides, these sprees are too far apart and few to merit such ridiculous laws.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
but murder isn't
WTF? I don't know what to think
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
It all comes down to urban vs. rural politics.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21142 … erpost.com
Background checks for people wanting to buy guns in Colorado jumped more than 41 percent after Friday morning's shooting at an Aurora movie theater, and firearms instructors say they're also seeing increased interest in the training required for a concealed-carry permit.
"It's been insane," Jake Meyers, an employee at Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo in Parker, said Monday.
When he arrived at work Friday morning — just hours after a gunman killed 12 and injured 58 others at the Century Aurora 16 theater — there already were 15 to 20 people waiting outside the store, Meyers said.
He called Monday "probably the busiest Monday all year" and said the basic firearms classes that he and the store's owner teach are
booked solid for the next three weeks, something that hadn't happened all year.
"A lot of it is people saying, 'I didn't think I needed a gun, but now I do,' " Meyers said. "When it happens in your backyard, people start reassessing — 'Hey, I go to the movies.' "
Between Friday and Sunday, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation approved background checks for 2,887 people who wanted to purchase a firearm — a 43 percent increase over the previous Friday through Sunday and a 39 percent jump over those same days on the first weekend of July.
The biggest spike was on Friday, when there were 1,216 checks, a 43 percent increase over the average number for the previous two Fridays.
The checks are required before anyone may legally purchase a gun in Colorado. Because some purchasers may have bought more than one gun or decided against their purchase, the actual number bought may have been different from 2,887.
Such increases aren't unusual in the wake of mass shootings.
After a gunman in Tucson killed six people and injured others, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, in 2010, background checks in Arizona jumped 60 percent over the same date one year earlier, according to the FBI.
A similar increase occurred in Virginia after the shootings at Virginia Tech University in 2007.
Dion Studinski, who teaches a course required for people to apply for a concealed-carry permit, said his class for Saturday at Firing-Line gun store and indoor shooting range in Aurora is overbooked.
"We've definitely had an increase," he said.
Tom Mauser, a gun-control advocate whose son Daniel was killed at Columbine High School in 1999, said he wasn't surprised by the numbers.
"To me that's just symbolic of the fear that drives (people)," he said.
State Rep. Rhonda Fields, D-Aurora, said she understands what people are thinking when they walk into a gun shop. But she hopes buying a gun isn't the only response people have.
She would also like to see Congress reinstate an assault-weapons ban, and she said Colorado should look into other measures that could prevent tragedies like Friday's shooting.
"I think that's what the conversation needs to be," she said. "I don't think that to be preventative, we need to provide or have more guns."
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
By making it harder for them to obtain illegal weapons and ammunition?-Sh1fty- wrote:
No, you're the ignorant one. Tell me how gun laws are going to stop criminals from illegally obtaining weapons and going on sprees with them.
Fuck Israel
Movie massacre suspect sent chilling notebook to psychiatrist before attack
" mailed a notebook "full of details about how he was going to kill people" to a University of Colorado psychiatrist before the attack, but the parcel sat unopened in a mailroom for as long as a week before its discovery Monday "
" mailed a notebook "full of details about how he was going to kill people" to a University of Colorado psychiatrist before the attack, but the parcel sat unopened in a mailroom for as long as a week before its discovery Monday "
That almost sounds the same as that guy who shot up the McDonalds.SEREMAKER wrote:
Movie massacre suspect sent chilling notebook to psychiatrist before attack
" mailed a notebook "full of details about how he was going to kill people" to a University of Colorado psychiatrist before the attack, but the parcel sat unopened in a mailroom for as long as a week before its discovery Monday "
Normally I'd but these days you can never be too sureRTHKI wrote:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_james_holmes_shooting_false_flag.html
One does have to wonder about the apparently sophisticated explosives, and I've yet to hear whether the "tear gas" was improvised, or proper gas canisters.mtb0minime wrote:
Normally I'd but these days you can never be too sureRTHKI wrote:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_james_holmes_shooting_false_flag.html
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
You guys are fucking shitheads for even considering that.
Clearly DSL is an FBI agent
no, you don't, Ted.FatherTed wrote:
i dont really see why people can't have a nuke. if my neighbour is a terrorist i need a first strike capability
You'd end up nuking your favorite bar, and that would be sad.
Bono would have to write another song, Monday Glowing Monday
and that would be really sad.
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fwp
Tu Stultus Es
buy MRE meal packs, use water and heater inside, add tabasco = ghetto CS gas.ROGUEDD wrote:
One does have to wonder about the apparently sophisticated explosives, and I've yet to hear whether the "tear gas" was improvised, or proper gas canisters.mtb0minime wrote:
Normally I'd but these days you can never be too sureRTHKI wrote:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_james_holmes_shooting_false_flag.html
the guy had a neuroscience background, probs had extensive chemistry knowledge, more than enough to make explosives.
I think I heard on the radio the other day that there has been 22(ish) mass shootings since '99 in the US. (I haven't looked at any sources for this but it was some US professor who mentioned it as an interviewee, so feel free to correct me)-Sh1fty- wrote:
No, you're the ignorant one. Tell me how gun laws are going to stop criminals from illegally obtaining weapons and going on sprees with them. It's not that hard to find an illegal weapon. Besides, these sprees are too far apart and few to merit such ridiculous laws.
In Au there has been since (and lets round it down to '90 for the fun of it) 4. 0 Since the Port Arthur massacre (and the gun law reforms) in '96.
I know of only the one mass shooting in NZ being in '90
And it would be great if someone could fill me in on mass shootings for the UK over the last 20ish years, but if the police don't even carry pistols any more I dare say there's not much of a threat.
3 of the most regulated and legislated countries in regards to firearms, and yet people still have firearms. I have firearms, dilbert has firearms (and he's not even a national) Ty has firearms, Teds has firearms. Most of my family and friends all have firearms yet hardly any firearms crimes. These laws DONT prevent you from getting guns. You keep saying that it won't change anything, and indeed it may not for many years. But its been almost 20 years since australia changed their laws, and over 20 since NZ did, and there's been a marked difference.
So almost 1 and a half mass shootings a year in the US and you say they are too far and few to merit maybe having another look at firearms laws?
but theres 14 times more people in the US than AUS but only 5 times more shootingsAdams_BJ wrote:
I think I heard on the radio the other day that there has been 22(ish) mass shootings since '99 in the US. (I haven't looked at any sources for this but it was some US professor who mentioned it as an interviewee, so feel free to correct me)-Sh1fty- wrote:
No, you're the ignorant one. Tell me how gun laws are going to stop criminals from illegally obtaining weapons and going on sprees with them. It's not that hard to find an illegal weapon. Besides, these sprees are too far apart and few to merit such ridiculous laws.
In Au there has been since (and lets round it down to '90 for the fun of it) 4. 0 Since the Port Arthur massacre (and the gun law reforms) in '96.
I know of only the one mass shooting in NZ being in '90
And it would be great if someone could fill me in on mass shootings for the UK over the last 20ish years, but if the police don't even carry pistols any more I dare say there's not much of a threat.
3 of the most regulated and legislated countries in regards to firearms, and yet people still have firearms. I have firearms, dilbert has firearms (and he's not even a national) Ty has firearms, Teds has firearms. Most of my family and friends all have firearms yet hardly any firearms crimes. These laws DONT prevent you from getting guns. You keep saying that it won't change anything, and indeed it may not for many years. But its been almost 20 years since australia changed their laws, and over 20 since NZ did, and there's been a marked difference.
So almost 1 and a half mass shootings a year in the US and you say they are too far and few to merit maybe having another look at firearms laws?
Id say that aint too bad
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22/0 =/= 5Mutantbear wrote:
but theres 14 times more people in the US than AUS but only 5 times more shootingsAdams_BJ wrote:
I think I heard on the radio the other day that there has been 22(ish) mass shootings since '99 in the US. (I haven't looked at any sources for this but it was some US professor who mentioned it as an interviewee, so feel free to correct me)-Sh1fty- wrote:
No, you're the ignorant one. Tell me how gun laws are going to stop criminals from illegally obtaining weapons and going on sprees with them. It's not that hard to find an illegal weapon. Besides, these sprees are too far apart and few to merit such ridiculous laws.
In Au there has been since (and lets round it down to '90 for the fun of it) 4. 0 Since the Port Arthur massacre (and the gun law reforms) in '96.
I know of only the one mass shooting in NZ being in '90
And it would be great if someone could fill me in on mass shootings for the UK over the last 20ish years, but if the police don't even carry pistols any more I dare say there's not much of a threat.
3 of the most regulated and legislated countries in regards to firearms, and yet people still have firearms. I have firearms, dilbert has firearms (and he's not even a national) Ty has firearms, Teds has firearms. Most of my family and friends all have firearms yet hardly any firearms crimes. These laws DONT prevent you from getting guns. You keep saying that it won't change anything, and indeed it may not for many years. But its been almost 20 years since australia changed their laws, and over 20 since NZ did, and there's been a marked difference.
So almost 1 and a half mass shootings a year in the US and you say they are too far and few to merit maybe having another look at firearms laws?
Id say that aint too bad
Learn to maths.
@BJ, think you should recheck your data on gun crime, pre and post reforms because iirc there's really not much difference at all.
And as for 'mass shootings', when was the one before Port Arthur?
ohh. But there was 13 years between 1971 and 84s shootings and we're only at 16 years without one currently. Even if we have no more shootings in the foreseeable future was the introduction of gun reforms causation or just correlation?Clifford Bartholomew massacre - A man shot dead ten members of his family in Hope Forest near Adelaide, September 1971.
Milperra massacre - Two biker gangs, the Comanchero and the Bandidos, engaged in a shoot-out in a hotel car park, killing 7 people in 1984, including a bystander. Only one defendant was acquitted on the murder charges.
Joseph Schwab - 1987, Schwab shot dead 5 people in and around the Kimberley region in Western Australia before being shot dead by police. [1]
Hoddle Street massacre - Armed with two rifles and a shotgun, Julian Knight shot 7 people dead and wounded another 19 in 1987 before surrendering to authorities.
Queen Street massacre - Armed with a sawn-off rifle, Frank Vitkovic roamed the Australia Post building killing 8 and wounding 5, also in 1987. When the weapon was finally wrestled from him, he committed suicide by jumping out of a nearby window.
Surry Hills massacre - Paul Anthony Evers killed 5 people with a 12-gauge shotgun at a public housing precinct in Surry Hills in 1990 before surrendering to police. [2]
Strathfield massacre - In 1991 Wade Frankum killed 7 people and wounded 6 others with a large knife and an SKS before turning the gun on himself when he realised he could not escape.
Central Coast Massacre - Malcolm Baker killed 6 people and injured another with a shotgun in 1992 before being arrested by police.
Port Arthur massacre - In 1996, armed with two semi-automatic rifles, Martin Bryant killed 35 people around Port Arthur and wounded 21 before being caught by police the next day following an overnight siege.
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