You gotta admit that it's great politics of division. Congress would've scarcely been able to do a better job.
That shoud make gun owners happy. If I were gonna break into a home in that county, I would know which ones to avoid. People without guns there should now be thinking ,"oh shit, I'm a target now, time to get a gun.". Flipside being that if you are a gun owner and someone breaks into your house there, its a safe bet they are armed.Jay wrote:
Why there will always be massive pushback against any plan to create a national gun owner registry.
The newspaper linked above decided to take it upon themselves to create an interactive map displaying the location of every registered handgun owner in the county. Shit like this is why there are two million unregistered guns in New York City alone. They make registration a nightmare, and then they demonize the owners in the same way that they demonize people convicted of sex crimes.
It's as bad as these stupid signs:-Whiteroom- wrote:
That shoud make gun owners happy. If I were gonna break into a home in that county, I would know which ones to avoid. People without guns there should now be thinking ,"oh shit, I'm a target now, time to get a gun.". Flipside being that if you are a gun owner and someone breaks into your house there, its a safe bet they are armed.Jay wrote:
Why there will always be massive pushback against any plan to create a national gun owner registry.
The newspaper linked above decided to take it upon themselves to create an interactive map displaying the location of every registered handgun owner in the county. Shit like this is why there are two million unregistered guns in New York City alone. They make registration a nightmare, and then they demonize the owners in the same way that they demonize people convicted of sex crimes.
It's just dickheadish.
Completely ineffective too since most guns aren't even registered
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"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Agreed. Just pointing out that those making the map didn't fully think it through.
lol is that sign for freakin' real?
You've really never seen it before?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
lol is that sign for freakin' real?
Yeah, I think it is
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-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
And a giant, pretentious yellow ribbon. I don't like them already.
http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/b … introducesBrewster, N.Y. – 12/26/2012 – Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson – R, C, I) called for the Journal News Newspaper, a Gannett Company, to immediately remove a map they have posted on their website that unethically reveals homeowners with pistol permits in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam Counties. The Journal News says that the information contained in the map was obtained by submitting Freedom of Information requests for the names and addresses of pistol permit holders by county. Senator Ball has now announced that he will introduce legislation in the New York State Senate, to prevent this from happening again.
“The asinine editors at the Journal News, have once again gone out of their way to place a virtual scarlet letter on law abiding firearm owners throughout the region. The immediate elimination of the information posted on the Journal News Website is the only way we can ensure the safety and liberty of these New Yorkers. This is clearly a violation of privacy, and needs to be corrected immediately. The same elitist egg heads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. Am I surprised? No. Should every person with commonsense be offended? Yes. Furthermore, the Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs,” said Ball. “Publishing this information on a website provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. Preventing the theft of guns and their criminal misuse is an important public-policy goal. This map is bad for the good guys and good for the bad guys.”
In the Assembly Ball multi-sponsored Assembly bill 820, legislation which would prohibit the public disclosure of information in an application for a pistol license with exceptions for prosecutors and police conducting an active investigation. Senator Ball will be introducing similar legislation, immediately. The bill would protect lawful gun owners from being targeted by thieves for firearm burglaries and eliminate a database criminals could use to extort their identity-theft victims.
That was quick! Hope it passes.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Ze Russki has a point.Shahter wrote:
now remember how you got into position of that kind of responsibility. you ought to have had a long history of good service, fine conduct, reliable behavior and all that jazz or you wouldn't have been put in there.rdx-fx wrote:
I've had access to Top Secret material before - I never sent it to WikiLeaks.
I've had a truck full of C4 and det cord - I've never blown up a civilian building.
I've had machine guns, automatic grenade launchers, autocannons, and rocket launchers - never even thought of harming a civilian.
Hell, I've essentially had the "Fire Button" for a division's worth of artillery (Ctrl+Action+Enter on final Fire Control system, with 50-100 different artillery and missile systems linked to my system) - would never go rogue with that kind of firepower.
and then think about what it takes to get a gun in us.
Its not as if you walked in off the street, showed a utility bill and were given all that on the spot - you would have been given basic training, supervised access to low level equipment, proved your responsibility and worked up from there over a period of years.
Letting unknowns buy the most dangerous guns straight off is daft, progressive access is one solution.
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Freedom of the press is a constitutional right too.Jay wrote:
http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/b … introducesBrewster, N.Y. – 12/26/2012 – Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson – R, C, I) called for the Journal News Newspaper, a Gannett Company, to immediately remove a map they have posted on their website that unethically reveals homeowners with pistol permits in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam Counties. The Journal News says that the information contained in the map was obtained by submitting Freedom of Information requests for the names and addresses of pistol permit holders by county. Senator Ball has now announced that he will introduce legislation in the New York State Senate, to prevent this from happening again.
“The asinine editors at the Journal News, have once again gone out of their way to place a virtual scarlet letter on law abiding firearm owners throughout the region. The immediate elimination of the information posted on the Journal News Website is the only way we can ensure the safety and liberty of these New Yorkers. This is clearly a violation of privacy, and needs to be corrected immediately. The same elitist egg heads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. Am I surprised? No. Should every person with commonsense be offended? Yes. Furthermore, the Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs,” said Ball. “Publishing this information on a website provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. Preventing the theft of guns and their criminal misuse is an important public-policy goal. This map is bad for the good guys and good for the bad guys.”
In the Assembly Ball multi-sponsored Assembly bill 820, legislation which would prohibit the public disclosure of information in an application for a pistol license with exceptions for prosecutors and police conducting an active investigation. Senator Ball will be introducing similar legislation, immediately. The bill would protect lawful gun owners from being targeted by thieves for firearm burglaries and eliminate a database criminals could use to extort their identity-theft victims.
That was quick! Hope it passes.
Can they demand and publish people's medical records too?
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no, there are medical privacy laws in place.
No, because as the Supreme Court has established, there are limits on the First Amendment. No yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre to cite one famous example.Dilbert_X wrote:
Can they demand and publish people's medical records too?
I was attempting to make a point about how just because something is a constitutional right, does not mean it can be carried to point where it causes harm to the nation.
Last edited by Narupug (2012-12-26 14:54:44)
Pretty sure they're protected by law.Dilbert_X wrote:
Can they demand and publish people's medical records too?
Yep
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/he … cords.htmlThe confidentiality of personal information such as medical records is protected by both the Data Protection Acts and the Freedom of Information Acts. Under these Acts, third parties may not get access to personal information except under exceptional circumstances. These third parties would be parents/guardians and personal representatives.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
What private property people legally own should be equally protected - I would have thought.
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Start a map like that about who owns what sex toys and where they live and see what happens.
Or a map showing which school people send their kids to.
Freedom of speech man.
Freedom of speech man.
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you could find that info out, and it wouldn't be illegal to publish. It's just not right to do.Dilbert_X wrote:
Or a map showing which school people send their kids to.
Freedom of speech man.
Doing whats right doesn't seem to bother people these days.
Imma publish an interactive map showing where the richest 1% live, what make of alarm system their house has, the timetables of the patrols any security service they subscribe to has, what valuable items they own like make and model of car etc etc.
Because, you know, 1st amendment and shit.
Imma publish an interactive map showing where the richest 1% live, what make of alarm system their house has, the timetables of the patrols any security service they subscribe to has, what valuable items they own like make and model of car etc etc.
Because, you know, 1st amendment and shit.
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But how? You can be just as dead from a small round as a large. Large magazines can be smuggled or more guns can be carried.Dilbert_X wrote:
Keeping the most dangerous guns out of the hands of nutcases would be the long term solution.
OK, you figure it out.
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Something tells me stuff like this won't be every effective.
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the fucks with the ban on bayonet mounts. yeah someone is totally going to effectively bayonet someone with an "assault rifle." shit is weird.
'MuricaCybargs wrote:
the fucks with the ban on bayonet mounts. yeah someone is totally going to effectively bayonet someone with an "assault rifle." shit is weird.
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/ … lt-weaponsIn January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
Feinstein is a high ranking senator from Calif. In the link she has laid out the goals of this new bill. It is tougher than the first AWB.
I don't like it. We don't need any new federal gun laws. We also don't need our government finding things to divide us over.