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such a heady brew of moral philosophy in this thread! incredible. such subtle minds!

a meat-eater 'kills' the meat she/he consumes!

an animal life is the same as a human life!

here are three unrelated studies, which i am linking together in a chain of causation through sheer willpower alone!

a brick can kill a person, we should ban all building as well as guns!

i worry about the conceptual and reasoning ability of people who can’t discern between something which belongs in the category of ‘weapon’, whose very essence is weapon-ness, if you want to be aristotlean about it, with, say, a ‘vehicle’ or a ‘building material’. guns exist to kill things. they shoot projectiles. in their logic this is either a defense to pre-empt others with weapons, or an offence. a gun cannot be used to put up a shelf, like, say, a ball pein hammer. a gun cannot be used to commute to work.

this stuff really isn’t complicated. all these bad analogies and obfuscations have a name in logic: sophistry.

laws and regulations deal with categories and classifications. none of these frivolous logical arguments would withstand any legal scrutiny. which i suppose is why gun people hinge their legal objections and defenses on a piece of parchment which they elevate to Scripture.

Last edited by uziq (2020-05-04 03:22:01)

uziq wrote:

i worry about the conceptual and reasoning ability of people who can’t discern between something which belongs in the category of ‘weapon’, whose very essence is weapon-ness, if you want to be aristotlean about it, with, say, a ‘vehicle’ or a ‘building material’. guns exist to kill things. they shoot projectiles. in their logic this is either a defense to pre-empt others with weapons, or an offence. a gun cannot be used to put up a shelf, like, say, a ball pein hammer. a gun cannot be used to commute to work.

this stuff really isn’t complicated. all these bad analogies and obfuscations have a name in logic: sophistry.

laws and regulations deal with categories and classifications. none of these frivolous logical arguments would withstand any legal scrutiny. which i suppose is why gun people hinge their legal objections and defenses on a piece of parchment which they elevate to Scripture.

Pochsy's argument was 'killing things is bad' OK, stop eating meat then.

Thats the answer egotists always come up with, 'I can kill things because I'm better than them'.

I bet thats what the spree-shooter says to himself as he fills his mags and puts on his tactical gear.

I don't agree, we really don't need to eat meat, protein is completely overrated - we do because we enjoy it.

The average horse is bigger, stronger, fitter, faster, smarter and better conversation than you and yet hasn't consumed a single speck of meat in its life.

makes u think

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2020-05-04 06:43:08)

lmao comparing humans to herbivores. cows don't eat meat and they grow really fast ... make u think ... we also have four stomachs ... and our mouths are full of molars ...

in a long litany of fatuous and retarded arguments put forth by vegans, 'look at how horses are doing without steak' has to be way up there.

meat is not only consumed for protein, by the way. i don't even have a science master-race degree and i know this as basic common knowledge. it is also a great source for vitamins and minerals like heme iron, which are not always available and have certainly not been available to human populations globally throughout history in its non-heme form.

Last edited by uziq (2020-05-04 07:33:36)

I notice he only managed to kill one person before the police euthanized him. I wonder what the story would be if he had an AR15?

SuperJail Warden wrote:

The victim would have lived if they had an AR-15.

Or maybe not. Ever seen the video of that one knife guy stabbing rifle-armed cops?

That's not it though. I'm just questioning whether having an AR-15 slung behind your back would save you from being stabbed as a matter of fact.

I used to shake my head every time I commuted into Penn Station and I'd see a gaggle of NYPD in their tacticool anti-terror stuff, MP-9 hung from every shoulder sling, etc. and think to myself "you idiots could be taken out with a single hand grenade".

SuperJail Warden wrote:

It would have scared away attackers.

Are you sure about that? You can go to liveleak or google and probably find any number of stabbed cops.

Larssen wrote:

I'm more bothered by the fact regular US police feel a need to dress up as though they're military. It makes no sense and only estranges them from the public they serve.

They wouldn't have to if we didn't have Muslim terrorist.